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British Citizenship – Good Character Requirement FAQs

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Re: British Citizenship – Good Character Requirement FAQs

Post by ryan1512lon » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:01 pm

katiepop wrote:I am so frustrated with HO right now, I just need to vent it out. Years we have waited to get my husband's citizenship, we are just about ready to send it off so I come back to this forum to check things out again and they've bloody changed it again!!!!!

We've waited 7 years for his 20 day custodial sentence to clear and now we have to wait for another three years to get to ten!!!! I'm so annoyed for trying to do things properly. he should have just sent it off back in 2010 and not bothered declaring anything. So many people he knows got citizenship back then without declaring any convictions. It's absolutely ridiculous that he tries to do the right thing and they just make it even harder. :evil: :evil:

I hate the HO :(
Well I think you should be grateful that they even allow someone who's been to prison to apply for British Citizenship! It's only fair enough they have to wait, and are not in the same level as someone who's been honest his entire life!

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Post by katiepop » Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:13 pm

I understand what you are trying to say but life is never black and white. It's just a shame that there are people out there who genuinely do have extremely bad character, but they are lucky enough not to have received a prison sentence. So they can carry on being an unsavoury character but apply for citizenship unhindered. There are so many obstacles for people rehabilitating their lives after prison. And I'm not just talking about immigration, I mean for any ex-offender to be back to normal life. But I digress, that's not an issue for this forum.

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Post by waiz89k » Wed Mar 18, 2015 4:02 pm

katiepop wrote:I understand what you are trying to say but life is never black and white. It's just a shame that there are people out there who genuinely do have extremely bad character, but they are lucky enough not to have received a prison sentence. So they can carry on being an unsavoury character but apply for citizenship unhindered. There are so many obstacles for people rehabilitating their lives after prison. And I'm not just talking about immigration, I mean for any ex-offender to be back to normal life. But I digress, that's not an issue for this forum.
Even a mistaken/false arrest can ruin ur career forever as it will stay on ur file/crb for 100 years.

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Post by mavimavi » Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:08 pm

Hi Guys,
Can someone help me in regards to naturalisation application. Does HO contact to companies house regarding applicant whether at some point he/she being director. In case nothing mentioned on application form. And what kind of check HO does if known please.
Thanks

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Post by everyday_4_u » Sun Mar 22, 2015 7:34 pm

Hello Guies

I am looking for information if someone of you could kindly tell me as i am too worried. I have already applied for British Naturalization two months ago and still in process.
My Question is i was refused "Leave to Remain" in October 2010 based on 320(7)B Deception and asked to leave the country. I appealed but refused than i appealed to Upper Tribunal but decided to withdraw my application and leave country Voluntarily in Feb 2011. I got married in my home country to a British Citizen and applied for Spouse Visa which was granted and came to UK again in December 2011. Then i got ILR in November 2013 and have applied of naturalization in January 2015.

My Question is that is my application likely to refuse based on 320 (7)b in 2010? Since i applied for spouse and ILR after that and had no problem. I believe i did not overstay in country because i withdraw my appeal from upper tribunal and left country. I would appreciate if someone could reply according to Rules. Thank you.

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Post by milan69 » Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:12 pm

If you overstayed than you have to wait 10 years.
I am sometimes wrong.

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Post by khaledadda » Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:54 pm

Hi Everyday_4_u

Please keep us updated of the outcome of your application
Many thanks

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Post by Rahel1984 » Sun Mar 22, 2015 11:06 pm

everyday_4_u wrote:Hello Guies

I am looking for information if someone of you could kindly tell me as i am too worried. I have already applied for British Naturalization two months ago and still in process.
My Question is i was refused "Leave to Remain" in October 2010 based on 320(7)B Deception and asked to leave the country. I appealed but refused than i appealed to Upper Tribunal but decided to withdraw my application and leave country Voluntarily in Feb 2011. I got married in my home country to a British Citizen and applied for Spouse Visa which was granted and came to UK again in December 2011. Then i got ILR in November 2013 and have applied of naturalization in January 2015.

My Question is that is my application likely to refuse based on 320 (7)b in 2010? Since i applied for spouse and ILR after that and had no problem. I believe i did not overstay in country because i withdraw my appeal from upper tribunal and left country. I would appreciate if someone could reply according to Rules. Thank you.
Deception could be an issue. But u never know they might consider

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Post by hallamking » Sun Mar 22, 2015 11:14 pm

Hi Guys,

Subject: KNOWLEDGE OF LANGUAGE AND QUALIFICATION REQUIREMENT.

I have a quick enquiry about the naturalisation application (AN) where one of the criteria under section 1 (1.2) of Knowledgeoflanguage/lifeintheUK:

✔ I have a speaking and listening qualification in English at B1 CEFR or higher, or an equivalent level qualification; OR

✔ I have obtained an academic qualification deemed by UK NARIC to meet the recognised standard of a Bachelor’s or Master’s degree or PhD in the United Kingdom and:
(i) UK NARIC has confirmed that the qualification was taught or researched in English; or
(ii) the qualification was taught or researched in the UK or a majority English speaking country(other than Canada); OR

✔ I am a national of a majority English speaking country; OR

✔ I met the knowledge of language and life requirement to qualify for settlement on or after 28th October 2013; OR

✔ I wish to claim exemption on the basis of my physical or mental condition (physical and/or mental illness
may not lead automatically to exemption. You should provide reasons on page 15. Your application may fail
and the fee retained if insufficient reasons for exemption are provided).

My Question to you is I have my IELTS certificate taken in 2006 in India,for previous Immigration purposes.Will this be valid for speaking and listening Qualification in English B1 CEFR or higher.
I also have a Post Graduate Diploma in Business Administration from Sheffield Hallam University will this be accepted as a qualification taught in English.

And further regarding my wife's Qualification, she has a Bachelors degree from India which on Point Based Calculator gets her 20 Points for qualification and 10 points for degree taught in English Language. So can I submit evidence from the on-line points calculator, together with the original degree certificate, to demonstrate that my wife can satisfy the English language element of the Knowledge of Language in the UK requirement or do I still need to obtain confirmation from UK NARIC that the qualification was taught or researched in English by requesting an English Language Assessment (ELA) and also request a Statement of Comparability.

If someone could please revert back to me will be highly appreciated.

Thanks

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Post by e m b » Wed Mar 25, 2015 12:20 am

Hi,

I sent my application in and now I realised that I have a caution that I completely forgot about and didn't mention anywhere in the form. The police caution was given to me sometime in 2010, what do you suggest is best course of action , to call and disclose the information, send an mail, request return of documents, consult a lawyer or anything else?

Perhaps someone had the similar experience?

thanks

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Post by Amber » Wed Mar 25, 2015 4:10 am

Write and declare the caution, send via recorded delivery with your acknowledgment reference. As 3 years has lapsed you should be ok. Pop into the police station with ID, ask for the basic details of the caution, date is was given and what it was for, do it today and send in details today.
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Post by aqib.khan » Thu Mar 26, 2015 4:25 pm

Hi ,

I filed my case for naturlization last month but I did not declare my fpn which was driving holding mobile phone happened in 2007.

Can some one please tell me if I should have declared it and if yes then what can I do now ?

Just to confirm it was not in court . Just on road By police.

Thanks in advance.

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Post by akhurshid » Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:45 am

aqib.khan wrote:Hi ,

I filed my case for naturlization last month but I did not declare my fpn which was driving holding mobile phone happened in 2007.

Can some one please tell me if I should have declared it and if yes then what can I do now ?

Just to confirm it was not in court . Just on road By police.

Thanks in advance.
You should be ok as you didn't need to declare it.

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Post by aqib.khan » Fri Mar 27, 2015 11:48 am

[quote="akhurshid"][quote="aqib.khan"]Hi ,

I filed my case for naturlization last month but I did not declare my fpn which was driving holding mobile phone happened in 2007.

Can some one please tell me if I should have declared it and if yes then what can I do now ?

Just to confirm it was not in court . Just on road By police.

Thanks in advance.[/quote]

You should be ok as you didn't need to declare it.[/quote]


Thanks for replying.

What about section 3.7 of form . I have attacht the snippet
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Post by Umer Piracha » Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:21 pm

Hi All,

I would like to know if i need to declare the below fpn scenario?

I did receive some letters from bailiff in December 2013 stated that I owe them 700 pounds as I did not pay my penalty to Ealing council. I did contact to Ealing council and explained them that they have been sending all paper work to my old address so therefore they should waive all the charges and send me new fpn (pcn) to my new address but they refused and advised me to contact TEC which i did and filled a N244 form. I received a letter from TEC that my case has been forward to court long story short Judge ordered the Ealing council that they should stop the bailiff and re-issue the ticket and give me rights to challenge the original ticket. I did not challenge as I did park on loading bay at 9:30pm as i wasn’t aware that time so I paid original ticket fee to Ealing which was around 60 pounds something. Everything was sorted in May 2014.

Now my question is that I went to court and challenged the bailiff and found not guilty. Do I need to mention this in my application?
Also I had 3 points in my licence back in Feb 2008 due to taking wrong turn in Central London and police gave me 3 points and fined me on spot. Since then I didn’t have any points and its all cleared now.

Thanks for your advise

Regards, Umer

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Post by Umer Piracha » Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:25 pm

sorry forgot to mention that it did happed twice.

First time i paid to bailiff (back in 2010 ticket issued from Hounslow Council) but 2nd time i challanged them as both time ticket was issued during move to one house to other. First time i wasnt aware of any law which could stop bailiff so i paid them as they were harrassing.

Please let me know if i need to mention these two scenario

thanks

regards,

Umer

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Post by akhurshid » Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:46 pm

aqib.khan wrote:
Thanks for replying.

What about section 3.7 of form . I have attacht the snippet
Sorry I hadn't read the new guide. Yeah according to that guide you need to disclose it. Write a letter to HO explaining the mistake and declare it. Mention your application reference number if any. Make sure you send recorded delivery and keep a copy of the letter.

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Post by mfaheem » Fri Mar 27, 2015 1:17 pm

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Post by aqib.khan » Fri Mar 27, 2015 1:58 pm

[quote="akhurshid"][quote="aqib.khan"]

Thanks for replying.

What about section 3.7 of form . I have attacht the snippet[/quote]

Sorry I hadn't read the new guide. Yeah according to that guide you need to disclose it. Write a letter to HO explaining the mistake and declare it. Mention your application reference number if any. Make sure you send recorded delivery and keep a copy of the letter.[/quote]


Thank. Do you happen to know where I can find the right address to send letter to?

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Post by Rahel1984 » Fri Mar 27, 2015 2:13 pm

aqib.khan wrote:
akhurshid wrote:
aqib.khan wrote:
Thanks for replying.

What about section 3.7 of form . I have attacht the snippet
Sorry I hadn't read the new guide. Yeah according to that guide you need to disclose it. Write a letter to HO explaining the mistake and declare it. Mention your application reference number if any. Make sure you send recorded delivery and keep a copy of the letter.

Thank. Do you happen to know where I can find the right address to send letter to?
Address u find on ur acknowledgement letter. Put the reference number from there as well.

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Post by Umer Piracha » Fri Mar 27, 2015 2:41 pm

Sorry, re-posting this as I didnt get any reply.

Hi All,

I would like to know if i need to declare the below fpn scenario?

I did receive some letters from bailiff in December 2013 stated that I owe them 700 pounds as I did not pay my penalty to Ealing council. I did contact to Ealing council and explained them that they have been sending all paper work to my old address so therefore they should waive all the charges and send me new fpn (pcn) to my new address but they refused and advised me to contact TEC which i did and filled a N244 form. I received a letter from TEC that my case has been forward to court long story short Judge ordered the Ealing council that they should stop the bailiff and re-issue the ticket and give me rights to challenge the original ticket. I did not challenge as I did park on loading bay at 9:30pm as i wasn’t aware that time so I paid original ticket fee to Ealing which was around 60 pounds something. Everything was sorted in May 2014.

Now my question is that I went to court and challenged the bailiff and found not guilty. Do I need to mention this in my application?
Also I had 3 points in my licence back in Feb 2008 due to taking wrong turn in Central London and police gave me 3 points and fined me on spot. Since then I didn’t have any points and its all cleared now.

Thanks for your advise

Regards, Umer

PS:
Sorry forgot to mention that it did happen twice.

First time i paid to bailiff (back in 2010 ticket issued from Hounslow Council) but 2nd time i challenged them as both time ticket was issued during move to one house to other. First time i wasn’t aware of any law which could stop bailiff so i paid them as they were harassing.

Please let me know if I need to mention these two scenario

thanks

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Post by nga3 » Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:41 pm

Hello guys, please i need a quick advise. I have just sent my application for citizenship 3 days ago at wandsworth NSC. In 2012 i was convicted and sentenced to 100hr community service. My major problem right now is that, the conviction will only be 3 years old in about 25 days. what do you guys think will most likely be the outcome of my application? will my application refused outrightly or do you think the caseworker will possibly use discretion since its only few days before it becomes 3 years.

Anyone ever been in my shoes before. i would have waited but i clearly didnt know this was the case as i had applied for FLR(M) AND ILR(M) and they were both granted. i didnt know a 3 year rule was required for citizenship. Please any advise will be welcomed.

Thank you

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Post by khan7861 » Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:14 pm

Good Afternoon everyone,

I hope every one is fine, Could some one please help me, I am going to apply my citizenship next month, I got my ILR ten year bases for last year.

I got married 2012 in here, she is British but unfortunate this marriage does not work out, she got divorce me on be half of "unreasonable behaviour" but there is no police involve. just county court involved,

my question is any effect my nationality or it gonna harm my personal character

if any one has the similar experience I really appreciate please share me

Thanks

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Post by Amritsar singh » Fri Apr 03, 2015 10:52 pm

Hello everyone I am new in this site hope I will get my answer from senior ...I got PR 10aprail 2014 I have Indian passport so I have citizenship apply appointment with NCB Sheffield .i had problem in October 2008 in Birmingham I went to my friend house for few week to search job but one day I was alon at home and someone came to door and asked me about tv licence and I told him I am guest here so I don't know they have or no.then he asked me my name I said to him why you need my name for so he said just for officel record so I show my boss I went to this house so I have my name the same time I asked my friend about tv licence so he said he got one so don't worry .after I moved back to London .in 19th sep 2014 I was traveling from Leeds airport to Prague after boarding lady police officer stop me and said I got arresst warrant aganest you about non payment tv licence I was shock I said I don't know about this so she said you have to pay 250 fine or I have to arrest you so I paid that amount there .when I came from holidays I rang tv licence company they said same we can't do nothing the matter finsh so I had police Clarence from ACRO which say no trace its mean clear .i field my citizenship form and I also I attech covering latter about tv licence .so I want to ask its serious matter for apply British nationalty

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Post by Siraj ud-Daulah » Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:23 pm

Hi all,

I wonder if someone could help urgently, please.

After graduating from a UK university with honours degree in 2005 I made a mistake of doing post graduate diploma from Cambridge College of Learning in 2007, instead of doing Masters from another university.

A mistake that still makes me feel very ashamed of myself, as I received my post study work permit in early 2008 - but by the end of 2008 college was blacklisted due to corruption.

I never received any letter from Home Office but instead of wasting time, I applied for high skilled migration in 2009 using my university degree and work experience - it was approved.

While on HSMP, I was married and my wife is British born citizen. My spouse visa was granted and also my ILR after three years.

I have applied for Naturalisation and did not mention about Cambridge College of Learning, but after not received any decision I tried contacting Home Office.

They replied :
“Greater levels of scrutiny will be applied to certain applications.  This will be dependent on certain indicators within their immigration history that pre-date the application for naturalisation. Your case has been identified as such a case.”

I did my research and aware of the fact it is a generic email and Home Office is under huge backlog.

Yet, it doesn't help me to think and go paranoid. My questions are :

1. Can Home Office allege me of deception or suspicion and ban me from applying Naturalisation for 10 years?

2. Can Home Office revoke my ILR and deport me?

This was the one and only mistake I did in my entire stay in UK, never committed a crime, no speeding fines or even fracas. I have discussed options with my wife and family that should Home Office revoke ILR, we would have to sell our house and either move to Canada or else where. It is just not fair on her and she doesn't deserve it if this happens and I'll never be able to forgive myself.

I'd appreciate if someone could suggest or advise, much obliged.

Thanks,
Siraj

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