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Re: British passport for British citizen child born in India

Post by Macro_Run » Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:54 am

rarun53 wrote:
Macro_Run wrote:
rarun53 wrote:Hi All,

The staff at VFS Chennai are very friendly and helpful. Even though they say that accompanying persons not allowed, My son and I went along with my wife (who submitted the application). They verified all the originals submitted (literally every single page) and returned the originals back. It took us over an hour (11:00 AM to 12:30 PM) to verify & submit all the documents. The list of documents submitted below,
Hi rarun53,

I have few questions before applying my child application soon.

If you mentioned that "accompanying person not allowed",

1) Must I bring my wife and child when submit the application or me only submit the form? - It is not required to bring your wife or child,( in my case my wife was the primary applicant as all future communication to this application will be to the primary applicant only including interview, collection of passport from VFS chennai etc. Since my son was just a month old i went along with my son and wife to VFS)

If I have my child birth certificate only for my child address proof.

2) Did you fill India address or UK address in the application form? -- I have filled India Address, For address proof we provided Birth Certificate, Hospital Medical Records which has same address and Vehicle Reg Certificate which has photo and Address, if you don't have any govt id with Photo, just mention what you have in the cover letter)
Refer the below URL which may clarify some questions on the address.

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... plications

In the counter signature section, they must tell years/month in the box

3) Do they need to mention how many years knowing me or how months knowing my child in the box? -- they must know the adult who is applying on behalf of the child not the child directly. so it must be how many months and years they know you

Hello rarun53,

Thank you very much indeed for your nice reply.

#1) I am a primary application (Father) to my child and I am applying this application with Parent's contact details form at VFS, Chennai and then back to UK for work. They may call me in the UK or may call my wife in Chennai for an interview.

While collecting my child British passport I won't be in Chennai. Can my wife collect the passport at VFS if she shows her Indian passport or any other IDs?

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Re: British passport for British citizen child born in India

Post by rarun53 » Fri Dec 30, 2016 3:41 pm

Hello rarun53,

Thank you very much indeed for your nice reply.

#1) I am a primary application (Father) to my child and I am applying this application with Parent's contact details form at VFS, Chennai and then back to UK for work. They may call me in the UK or may call my wife in Chennai for an interview. -- I am not sure about this

While collecting my child British passport I won't be in Chennai. Can my wife collect the passport at VFS if she shows her Indian passport or any other IDs? - you should provide a letter of authorization to VFS if someone else collects the passport

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Re: British passport for British citizen child born in India

Post by Macro_Run » Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:44 am

Hi rarun53,

Thank you very much. Happy New Year!

rarun53 wrote:
Hello rarun53,

Thank you very much indeed for your nice reply.

#1) I am a primary application (Father) to my child and I am applying this application with Parent's contact details form at VFS, Chennai and then back to UK for work. They may call me in the UK or may call my wife in Chennai for an interview. -- I am not sure about this

While collecting my child British passport I won't be in Chennai. Can my wife collect the passport at VFS if she shows her Indian passport or any other IDs? - you should provide a letter of authorization to VFS if someone else collects the passport

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Re: British passport for British citizen child born in India

Post by srivisaN » Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:11 am

Anyone tried to book appointment from Hyderabad VFS Office for first time UK passport application for child.

We sent a request 4 days back, not confirmation yet. Is there any contact number.

Thanks,
Sri.

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Re: British passport for British citizen child born in India

Post by vivek2sky » Sun Jan 15, 2017 7:41 am

This is an excellent post and indeed has been very helpful when I recently made an application for our child born in Bangalore, India.
VFS did not take a few color photocopies and UK Passport have asked me to submit a few of them in a letter post my application. e.g. my previous passports, wife's school records in place of her birth certificate and proof of address in India.

I am in dilemma on the current address to provide. Since the child was born in Bangalore, would the current address have to be an Indian address and associated with wife's Indian home address? Wife and child will return to London after around 8 months and are currently living with either my parents or her parents. Wife has no proof of address at my Bangalore residence (her in-laws) and only has them for her parental home address in a city outside Bangalore. I am back in London, however with very frequent trips to India. I have also been asked to fill an additional form if one of the parents live in an address different to the child.

So should I give current address as wife's parental home address? or
Her in-laws address (my parental address) in Bangalore? or
UK address?

Many thanks for your responses.

Vivek

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Re: British passport for British citizen child born in India

Post by rarun53 » Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:53 pm

Vivek

Check/Read the link below (Answers to Questions 9 & 12).

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... plications

This should answer your questions.

Regards

Arun

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Re: British passport for British citizen child born in India

Post by srivisaN » Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:49 pm

Hi,

I went to Hyderabad VFS office today and tried to apply for UK passport for my new born baby... we have submitted below docs, to my surprise they asked me to produce

1. 3 documents as address proof in UK (even after we submitted 3 docs as address proof in India) - Both mother and father's uk address proof
2. Countersignatory passport 1st page copy
3. As many photos of the kid with family and relatives as possible (say 30 to 50)

Upon asking they said that it is a new rule to submit 3 documents as address proof in UK, a rule which I am not able to find anywhere on HMPO site. Please let me know if anyone faced same issue.

Normal set of docs I kept with me:
Child’s Full Birth Certificate
Child’s Medical, Hospital & Vaccination records from Birth till current date
Child’s 2 Recent Photographs (1 countersigned by UK Citizen)
Mother’s Full Birth Certificate
Mother’s Indian Passports
Mother’s BRP Card
Mother’s UK Provisional Driving License
Mother’s Antenatal NHS Records in UK
Mother’s Medical, Hospital records pre-delivery and post delivery in India
Mother’s Indian address/residency evidence (Voter’s Card and National ID Card)
Family Photographs of child with parents & relatives from Birth till current date
Mother’s Maternity Leave confirmation letter from current employer
Mother’s MATB1 Certificate
Father and Mother’s Marriage Certificate
Father’s Full British Passport
Father’s British Naturalisation Certificate
Father’s UK Full Driving License
Father’s Overseas Citizen of India (OCI)
Father’s Cancelled Indian Passports

I need to re-book my appointment to goback with new set of docs :(

Thanks,
Sri.

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Re: British passport for British citizen child born in India

Post by Macro_Run » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:34 am

srivisaN wrote:Hi,

I went to Hyderabad VFS office today and tried to apply for UK passport for my new born baby... we have submitted below docs, to my surprise they asked me to produce

1. 3 documents as address proof in UK (even after we submitted 3 docs as address proof in India) - Both mother and father's uk address proof
2. Countersignatory passport 1st page copy
3. As many photos of the kid with family and relatives as possible (say 30 to 50)

1. Did they ask 3 documents for father and 3 documents for mother as well?
2. Even if we get a Countersignatory from British citizen, need to submit passport copy?
3. Did they ask 30 photos to 50 photos?

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Re: British passport for British citizen child born in India

Post by rarun53 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:56 am

srivisaN wrote:Hi,

I went to Hyderabad VFS office today and tried to apply for UK passport for my new born baby... we have submitted below docs, to my surprise they asked me to produce

1. 3 documents as address proof in UK (even after we submitted 3 docs as address proof in India) - Both mother and father's uk address proof
2. Countersignatory passport 1st page copy
3. As many photos of the kid with family and relatives as possible (say 30 to 50)
Sri.
This is what the OS Application Guideline says (Page 11) about counter signature

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... s-guidance

The countersignatory needs to:
• tell us which country’s passport your
countersignatory holds, and his or her email address.
• when they hold a US, Commonwealth or other
EU (not British or Irish) passport, they must
provide a colour photocopy of the page
with their
photograph on it. This must be included with the
countersigned application.
......

And The 3 Address Proof rule hasn't changed in the latest version of the Supporting documents as well

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... ts-group-3

You have more things to do with the little one than taking pictures with every relatives and making an album. There is no evidence to support 30/50 photos claim either.

I don't think the VFS staff are speaking sensibly here.

Arun

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Re: British passport for British citizen child born in India

Post by rarun53 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:56 pm

Update

Latest update

Status of parents: Both British ( through naturalization)
Passport application submitted at local VFS (VFS-UK office Chennai): 18-Nov-2016
Application Received at Liverpool Office Via DHL Courier - 21-Nov-2016
Application Fee deducted - 22-Nov-2016 by CC
Passport interview: 24-Jan-2017 @Luton HMPO
Passport collected from local VFS : Waiting

Guys,
I received an email last week asking to book an appointment for interview for my Son's Passport. I was expecting the interview to happen in India with mother (as she was the main applicant), but I'm not sure the reason for interviewing me. I have booked the Appointment with HMPO in Luton as there were no slots available for 10 days in London.

Today i'v finished the interview. it was for about 25-30 mins including whole history of my family,my stay in uk and so on. It was more than 50 questions and she noted down my answers in the report. I was asked about preferred location for DNA test if required. She then asked me how i am communicating with my wife and other child and she looked at my Whatsapp and Hangout call history (Including Duration) on My Mobile. She also wanted to see some pictures& videos of child on the mobile and verified the bank statements to see how i am sending money to them in India.

She will send her report back to the Durham office and i should wait for another month until i hear back anything (whether the passport is issued or further checks/tests).

Hope all goes well.

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Re: British passport for British citizen child born in India

Post by srivisaN » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:49 am

rarun53 wrote:
srivisaN wrote:Hi,

I went to Hyderabad VFS office today and tried to apply for UK passport for my new born baby... we have submitted below docs, to my surprise they asked me to produce

1. 3 documents as address proof in UK (even after we submitted 3 docs as address proof in India) - Both mother and father's uk address proof
2. Countersignatory passport 1st page copy
3. As many photos of the kid with family and relatives as possible (say 30 to 50)
Sri.
This is what the OS Application Guideline says (Page 11) about counter signature

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... s-guidance

The countersignatory needs to:
• tell us which country’s passport your
countersignatory holds, and his or her email address.
• when they hold a US, Commonwealth or other
EU (not British or Irish) passport, they must
provide a colour photocopy of the page
with their
photograph on it. This must be included with the
countersigned application.
......

And The 3 Address Proof rule hasn't changed in the latest version of the Supporting documents as well

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... ts-group-3

You have more things to do with the little one than taking pictures with every relatives and making an album. There is no evidence to support 30/50 photos claim either.

I don't think the VFS staff are speaking sensibly here.

Arun
I too agree with you, I am going for appointment again in couple of days.

I am not taking more photos, I am not taking coutner signatory passport copy too.

However, as per the link for 3 address proofs.. I suppose you were referring to section A in that document, which asks about 3 address proofs from India (for mother and child) if mother is applying.

No where it was mentioned that one need to submit 3 address proofs from UK.

Thanks,
Sri.

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Re: British passport for British citizen child born in India

Post by rarun53 » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:53 am

Yes, There is no mention of 3 Address proof in UK anywhere in the Supporting documents list. It is only required for India Address. I would recommend you to take printout of the Guidelines and Supporting Docs check list and show them if they insist on those things.
As they don't have any involvement in making the decision on the application, you can ask them to submit the documents that you are providing and tell them that you will respond to HMPO if they request any additional documents.

All the Best.

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Re: British passport for British citizen child born in India

Post by srivisaN » Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:37 pm

Thanks, Arun.

we have submitted the application last week, this time they were not asking too many documents.

the only issue is they haven't given any tracking number (VFS Hyd said they will send an e-mail with courier tracking number, which was not the case till date) for courier and reference number for application

I can see that application fee has been deducted today, so I hope the application has been reached UK HMPO safely.

I am not sure about the application reference number.

Thanks,
Sri.

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Re: British passport for British citizen child born in India

Post by rarun53 » Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:18 am

Hi Sri,

It looks like VFS Hyd staff are negligent. We did receive the DHL tracking number from VFS Chennai. You will not get the application reference number until you send an enquiry to the HMPO office by filling online form asking the status. I would say, wait for a month or two before you make an enquiry.

Arun

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Re: British passport for British citizen child born in India

Post by iceCold » Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:07 am

My wife and me are naturalized British citizens having moved back to Bangalore permanently since Jan 2016. We have just had a baby boy last week and I am in the process of applying for his British passport from VFS Bangalore. I have gone through this thread in detail, but still have a few unanswered questions. Could someone with better understanding of this process please help me with the below queries:

1) I am using this document as a list of required supporting documents:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... _10.16.pdf
a) But it doesnt mention anything about counter-signature , is this really required?
b) 2 identical photographs - Do I have to get the babys passport sized photos clicked in a studio (maybe a really silly question, sorry.)

2) Cannot find any information regarding booking an appointment. To book an appointment I need to email , bangalore.hmpo@vfshelpline.com. Is that right?

3) Can I go alone to the VFS office on behalf of my son?

Thanks a lot in advance.

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Re: British passport for British citizen child born in India

Post by vinny » Wed Feb 15, 2017 6:57 am

1(a). See also Section 10: Countersignature.
1(b). See also Photo guidance.

2.
Making your application wrote:You’ll need to book an appointment by email. Include your first name and last name and 3 alternative dates and times. You will receive an email confirming your appointment.
This is not intended to be legal or professional advice in any jurisdiction. Please click on any given links for further information. Refer to the source of any quotes.
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Re: British passport for British citizen child born in India

Post by srivisaN » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:59 am

iceCold wrote:My wife and me are naturalized British citizens having moved back to Bangalore permanently since Jan 2016. We have just had a baby boy last week and I am in the process of applying for his British passport from VFS Bangalore. I have gone through this thread in detail, but still have a few unanswered questions. Could someone with better understanding of this process please help me with the below queries:

1) I am using this document as a list of required supporting documents:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... _10.16.pdf
a) But it doesnt mention anything about counter-signature , is this really required?
Yes, need a counter signature. If it is UK Citizen it would be easy and fast for processing. It may not be necessary but VFS Hyderabad people asked me to put a copy of first page of counter signatory passport

b) 2 identical photographs - Do I have to get the babys passport sized photos clicked in a studio (maybe a really silly question, sorry.)
As long as you meet the photo standards it is fine, I took photos at home.

2) Cannot find any information regarding booking an appointment. To book an appointment I need to email , bangalore.hmpo@vfshelpline.com. Is that right?
Yes, once you send an email stating it is for First Time UK Passport for your Kid along with his date of Birth.. they will respond with confirmation date. You need to give 3 optional dates and times.

3) Can I go alone to the VFS office on behalf of my son?
Yes, you can go alone. No need to take your kid or wife. Make sure you have all the signatures or any particulars from your wife in this case.
Thanks a lot in advance.
I recently applied for my kid's passport from VFS Hyderabad, please check my above responses

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Re: British passport for British citizen child born in India

Post by srivisaN » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:07 pm

rarun53 wrote:Update

Latest update

Status of parents: Both British ( through naturalization)
Passport application submitted at local VFS (VFS-UK office Chennai): 18-Nov-2016
Application Received at Liverpool Office Via DHL Courier - 21-Nov-2016
Application Fee deducted - 22-Nov-2016 by CC
Passport interview: 24-Jan-2017 @Luton HMPO
Passport collected from local VFS : Waiting

Guys,
I received an email last week asking to book an appointment for interview for my Son's Passport. I was expecting the interview to happen in India with mother (as she was the main applicant), but I'm not sure the reason for interviewing me. I have booked the Appointment with HMPO in Luton as there were no slots available for 10 days in London.

Today i'v finished the interview. it was for about 25-30 mins including whole history of my family,my stay in uk and so on. It was more than 50 questions and she noted down my answers in the report. I was asked about preferred location for DNA test if required. She then asked me how i am communicating with my wife and other child and she looked at my Whatsapp and Hangout call history (Including Duration) on My Mobile. She also wanted to see some pictures& videos of child on the mobile and verified the bank statements to see how i am sending money to them in India.

She will send her report back to the Durham office and i should wait for another month until i hear back anything (whether the passport is issued or further checks/tests).

Hope all goes well.
Hi Arun,

I (kid's father) recently got an update from HMPO to attend interview in India, I thought that they would ask his mother to come for interview. The slots they have given are in the end of March. I am trying to get earlier appointment by calling them.

But the number they have given is not working, have you used any number to book appointment or email id ?

Also would you be able to share any list of questions in the interview.

Thanks,
Srivisa.

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Re: British passport for British citizen child born in India

Post by rarun53 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:02 am

If you have signed the application and submitted at VFS they would have assumed that you are staying in India. In my case my wife signed and submitted the application and i have provided a separate form with contact details of the Parents if they are currently living in different country. I came back to UK for work and i have provided my UK contact details , so they asked me to book an interview here in UK. I received an email from Durham Passport office to book the interview appointment. I followed the procedure in the email.
They pick up randomly one or both the parents to attend the interview, so you shouldn't be surprised by the call. The questions are purely about my immigration history and my family (Wife, Children, Me). So nothing to worry about the questions.

if you have been given an UK number to book the appointment, try to ring as soon as the office opens. It is hard to get through during normal day time as it is not call center. They have only one/two lines.

Thanks

Arun

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Re: British passport for British citizen child born in India

Post by waseemiqbal » Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:52 am

rarun53 wrote:If you have signed the application and submitted at VFS they would have assumed that you are staying in India. In my case my wife signed and submitted the application and i have provided a separate form with contact details of the Parents if they are currently living in different country. I came back to UK for work and i have provided my UK contact details , so they asked me to book an interview here in UK. I received an email from Durham Passport office to book the interview appointment. I followed the procedure in the email.
They pick up randomly one or both the parents to attend the interview, so you shouldn't be surprised by the call. The questions are purely about my immigration history and my family (Wife, Children, Me). So nothing to worry about the questions.

if you have been given an UK number to book the appointment, try to ring as soon as the office opens. It is hard to get through during normal day time as it is not call center. They have only one/two lines.

Thanks

Arun
Hi arun i also applied 4 my daughter passport on 25 oct n had interview on 11 jan its almost same time as urs if u received any update plz post i will b w8ing
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Re: British passport for British citizen child born in India

Post by rarun53 » Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:05 am

Hi Waseem
I am calling every week , and i called even today. The call center people don't have detailed access to our records, so every time the reply is "Examination in Progress". She said she will put a note that i have called.
But i don't think it will make any difference. I am going to wait until 16 weeks ( i am in 14th week) then will be escalating to HMPO complaints team and possibly to CEO of HMPO.

Let's hope for the best.

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Re: British passport for British citizen child born in India

Post by waseemiqbal » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:02 am

rarun53 wrote:Hi Waseem
I am calling every week , and i called even today. The call center people don't have detailed access to our records, so every time the reply is "Examination in Progress". She said she will put a note that i have called.
But i don't think it will make any difference. I am going to wait until 16 weeks ( i am in 14th week) then will be escalating to HMPO complaints team and possibly to CEO of HMPO.

Let's hope for the best.
Hi arun any update?
Today i received mail to do dna test
Plz do post if u have any update
.

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Re: British passport for British citizen child born in India

Post by rarun53 » Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:20 pm

Hi Waseem

I don't have any updates. Few Questions regarding your application

1) Where did you apply the passport from
2) Where die you attend the interview
3) From which email Id did you receive the DNA test and where you are supposed to take?

Thanks in advance.

Arun

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Re: British passport for British citizen child born in India

Post by Macro_Run » Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:05 am

Macro_Run wrote:Hi rarun53,

Thank you very much. Happy New Year!

rarun53 wrote:
Hello rarun53,

Thank you very much indeed for your nice reply.

#1) I am a primary application (Father) to my child and I am applying this application with Parent's contact details form at VFS, Chennai and then back to UK for work. They may call me in the UK or may call my wife in Chennai for an interview. -- I am not sure about this

While collecting my child British passport I won't be in Chennai. Can my wife collect the passport at VFS if she shows her Indian passport or any other IDs? - you should provide a letter of authorization to VFS if someone else collects the passport

I have applied a British passport for my child in India (VFS, Chennai).

Status of parents: Father - British (through naturalization) & Mother - Indian
Passport application submitted at local VFS (VFS-UK office Chennai): 06-Feb-2017
Application Received at Liverpool Office Via DHL Courier - 09-Feb-2017
Application Fee deducted - 10-Feb-2017
Passport interview: Waiting
Passport collected from local VFS : Waiting


I have received a letter on 24-Feb-2017 in an email as below.

We have completed the checks in the UK. Your application has been referred to our colleagues
overseas to complete the overseas checks. These checks may include the authentication of
foreign identity documents and an interview. You will be contacted separately on the next steps.

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Re: British passport for British citizen child born in India

Post by rarun53 » Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:34 am

Thanks for the update Macro. It looks like they have recently improved their communication. I did not receive any such emails. I have also seen similar communication email on some other forum recently.

I am yet to hear any update after my interview (Nearly 6 weeks). Crazy stuff.

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