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Re: EEA national applying for BC without PR

Post by first2013 » Fri Feb 06, 2015 4:23 pm

I apply on th 11 of august2014/ 5+1year without PR, after waiting for 6 months this is a letter I receive today.

Dear sirs

I am writing in regard to your outstanding application for British Citizenship,
We aim to process all applications within 6 months from the date submitted. However, in certain circumstances this target is not possible. Following our assessment of your case, unfortunately it appears your application will not be processed within the 6 months target.

Following recent clarification of the Nationality rules greater levels of scrutiny will he applied to certain applications. This will be dependent on certain indicators within their immigration history that pre-date the application for British citizenship. Your case has been identified as such a case and will not be decided within 6 months

We expect to make a decision on your application within the next 3 to 6 months but we will write to you again if this is not going, to be possible. Please note we will contact you with further updates and can advise you do not need to contact us again unless your circumstances change significantly.

Please do not contact the UKVI Contact Centre regarding the progress of your ease as they will not be able to provide any further information.
This also applies to any family members whose applications for citizenship were submitted at the same time.

Yours sincerely

Nationality casework
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Re: EEA national applying for BC without PR

Post by Julian11 » Fri Feb 06, 2015 4:32 pm

One more non PR approval.
reki_14 wrote:Hello all,

I have been following your posts for some time but as my story was similar to most of yours I decided to share my experience just now as I received my approval today. I sent my application by post on June 22-nd and received my approval letter today which means that I have waited for 7 months and a half. I have contacted HO multiple times by phone receiving same standard answers that my application is in progress and they don't need any additional documents. In December just before Christmas (on the 23-rd of December) I have sent letter to the same address I sent my application asking for any information but didn't receive any answer. I called them in January and I was told that I was going to receive a letter very soon and finally I received it today. Thank you for your posts and good luck to everyone :D .

Eligibility criteria: 5 Years EU Nationality
Language criteria met (Life in the UK test & Esol L3):
Current nationality: EU Nationality
Council name if NCS used: sent application by post
Date of application: 22/06/2014
Payment method: Visa debit
Date of receipt by UKBA: 24/06/2014
Date of acknowledgment: 30/06/2014
Date of debit or clearance of fees: 30/06/2014
Date approval received: 05/02/2015( date on the letter 02/02/2015)
Date of ceremony:Waiting.....

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Re: EEA national applying for BC without PR

Post by efm71 » Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:51 pm

OK, I got a text from my wife and apparently the famous brown envelope arrived at home.

I still need to see to believe it, but just wanted to share with you.

I got my letter acknowledging receipt of application on Sept 25 (Applied via NCS)
Have been living in UK for 10 years
I'm a EEA citizen (with no PR card, which is also good news as apparently these cases were taking 7 months...)
Citizenship approval received: 6 Feb (if my wife is correct)

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Re: EEA national applying for BC without PR

Post by dkara » Sat Feb 07, 2015 8:20 am

Hi all,

I am EEA citizen and I applied for British citizenship in October 2014. I did not have ILR or PR but at the time I applied I had completed 6 years in UK. During these years I had been studying towards a PhD degree and at the same time I had been working at uni to meet my expenses. I received my approval letter last week (in less than 4 months!). I believe I am an example of an EEA citizen who had been exercising his treaty rights continuously for 6 years and was granted citizenship without ILR or PR card. My timelines are as follows:

Eligibility criteria: 6 years EEA without ILR or PR card
Language criteria met: UK PhD degree + Life in The UK Test
Method of application: Special delivery by lawyer
Date of application: 20/10/2014
Date application received: 21/10/2014
Payment method: Debit Card
Date of debit or clearance of fees: 05/11/2014
Date of acknowledgment letter received: 13/11/2014 dated 05/11/2014
Date approval received: 05/02/2015 dated 30/01/2015 :D
Date of ceremony: TBC

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Re: EEA national applying for BC without PR

Post by Julian11 » Sat Feb 07, 2015 8:57 am

I applied on the exact same day as you, also EU without PR. You give me hope! Congrats. :)

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Re: EEA national applying for BC without PR

Post by Julian11 » Sun Feb 08, 2015 1:21 pm

One more... from May.
amk_amk wrote:
Julian11 wrote:
amk_amk wrote:Hi Everyone,
Finally my and 2 kids approval has arrived. Waiting is over, maybe not completely as ceremony takes place in 3 months time, but still happy I am through.
Wish everyone patience and luck.

My details as follows:

Eligibility criteria: EEA - 6 years of continuous work ( Application adult-AN+ 2children- MN1)
Language criteria met: B1 language test by Trinity College London and Life in UK test
Current nationality: polish
Method of application: NCS
Council name if NCS used: Rutherglen
Date of application: 06/5/2014
Payment method CC/DC, Personal cheque, Bankers cheque etc: DC
Date of receipt by UKBA: 08/05/2014
Date of acknowledgement: received 14/05/2014
Date of debit or clearance of fees: 21/05/2014
Date approval received: 02.02.2015 dated 28.01.2015
Date of ceremony: 22.04.2015
Congrats - did you have PR? :)
PR status has been achieved after 5 years, never applied for the PR though. Went straight to naturalisation.

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Re: EEA national applying for BC without PR

Post by Storm_b_ringer » Sun Feb 08, 2015 8:01 pm

I applied for BC without PR. It tooks 8 months for the HO to write back. They have requested alternative evidence of residence, which I am in the process of providing.

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Re: EEA national applying for BC without PR

Post by Julian11 » Sun Feb 08, 2015 8:45 pm

Sounds promising - usually such requests mean they were about to approve you but just need that one last thing!

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Re: EEA national applying for BC without PR

Post by Storm_b_ringer » Sun Feb 08, 2015 8:55 pm

Julian11 wrote:Sounds promising - usually such requests mean they were about to approve you but just need that one last thing!
I hope so. I've read so many conflicting messages here. Sometimes it seems like a lottery. Keeping my fingers crossed. Thanks!

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Re: EEA national applying for BC without PR

Post by Samaralady » Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:52 pm

Some good news after all - congratulations and my best wishes to all those of you who have finally got the famous brown envelope!

I had my big day today, in Hatfield, and am as of this afternoon officially a British Citizen. It is a bit of an anti-climax. I thought I'd go to bed yesterday with my German accent and wake up with a cut glass British accent. Didn't happen ...

Just another remark, all these 3-6 months letters that are going out now are just an example of the HO's failure to deal with things properly. It is sad to see that we have sunk that deep. Additional checks ... that's all just a load of b/s.

To all of you who are still waiting, don't lose hope, it's annoying, but eventually, assuming all the documents are correct, the approval will arrive. Who knows, you may be some of the first ones to swear your allegiance to the King ...

Chin up and Hugs! It's worth it.

Kate :lol: :lol:
„Zwei Dinge sind unendlich, das Universum und die menschliche Dummheit, aber bei dem Universum bin ich mir noch nicht ganz sicher.“
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Re: EEA national applying for BC without PR

Post by simply_the_best » Wed Feb 11, 2015 11:29 pm

Hi guys after a bad and stressful day in work I have come home and I have seen a brown envelope. Though may be nothing but the home office logo was on it so I opened it and seen my approval. Guys I'm so happy and I want to say a big THANK YOU to the moderators and lovely people that share their thoughts and experience here. And not last for those who waiting for a approval be patience that you will get it soon as you don't expect. they have started to moving quicker

My timeline is

Date of application :29 sept 2014
Eligibility criteria : EEA 6 years ( Romanian ) WITHOUT PR card
Date of acknowledge letter : 8 October
Date of approval: 11 feb 2015 , dated 30 jan (so 4 months)
Ceremony : will book tomorrow :D :D :D

Thanks againg guys and see u at the passport timeline

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Re: EEA national applying for BC without PR

Post by Julian11 » Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:53 am

Fantastic! Congrats. :)

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Re: EEA national applying for BC without PR

Post by simply_the_best » Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:59 am

Julian11 wrote:Fantastic! Congrats. :)
Thanks good luck for u too :lol:

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Re: EEA national applying for BC without PR

Post by Julian11 » Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:01 pm

An April through:
libbi11 wrote:Hi,

I got my approval yesterday, finally after 9 months!! I'm EEA, 7 years continuous work, never applied for PR card. Agony is over now!

Good luck to the rest of you and thanks for everything! Great forum, helpful with lovely ppl!!

And a June:
madzik1016 wrote:I get letter today :) My application was approved!! I'm so relief !

Date of application 18th june, got letter dated 8th of Feb and got it today! I'm sure they got overtimes in HO as this was sunday. Good luck everyone! Pozdrowienia :D Trzymam kciuki za was

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Re: EEA national applying for BC without PR

Post by Julian11 » Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:32 pm

And a July!
rachsach wrote:Eligibility criteria: 5+ Exercising Treaty Rights and Married to British Citizen ( EEA/EU National )
Language criteria met (UK degree, exempt countries, PBS used documents, NARIC, or B1 test): Esol B1 test
Current nationality: Spanish
Method of application: NCS
Council name if NCS used: Northumberland County Council
Date of application: 17/07/2014
Payment method CC/DC, Personal cheque, Bankers cheque etc: Credit Card
Date of receipt by UKBA: 18/07/2014
Date of acknowledgment: 02/08/2014. ( Dated 29/07/2014 )
Date of debit or clearance of fees: 29/07/2014
Date approval received: 12/02/2015
Date of ceremony:18/02/2015

Final Update from me.

EEA/EU citizen exercising treaty rights for over 20 years but with NO PR card.
I wish the best of luck to everyone remaining and hope you all get to hear from HO soon.

Best Regards

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Re: EEA national applying for BC without PR

Post by GoodNewsE » Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:30 pm

Eligibility criteria: 5years Treaty Rights +1yr, no PR, Life in the UK + UK Uni degree
Nationality:EU15
Method of application: NCS Brent
Date of application:12/01/2015
Date of receipt by UKBA: Not sure, the next day supposedly
Date of debit of fees: 19/01/2015
Date of receipt of acknowledgement: dated 19/01/2015 (received about a week later)
Date of receipt of approval: 12/02/2015 (Dated 06/02/15)
Date of Ceremony: I'll call the Council tomorrow, hopefully soon :D

I am delighted!

So fellow EU applicants there is hope! :wink:

Good luck to everyone else who have yet to receive their good news!

Sorry for the duplicate post, but this thread was my hope while I was waiting :)

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Re: EEA national applying for BC without PR

Post by Julian11 » Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:53 am

Wow :) well done. So fast.

One more Sept one:
Anoolka wrote:I can't believe it!!! I have just got it!!! There it was, the glorious brown envelope.

So here is my timeline:
EEA 6 years, no PR
Applied: 13 Sept 2014
Acknowledged: 26 September
Approved: 12/02/2015 (letter dated 08/02/2015)
Ceremony: will book tomorrow

Thank you guys for sharing the info and pain:) All the best.

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Re: EEA national applying for BC without PR

Post by sollie » Fri Feb 13, 2015 3:30 pm

Hi Guys, just an update.

I got my approval 2 days ago. I am EEA national with no PR card. I applied towards the end of November.
Good luck to those waiting!

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Re: EEA national applying for BC without PR

Post by Julian11 » Sat Feb 14, 2015 1:38 pm

As I posted in another thread, I was declined, for supposedly not exercising treaty rights for 5 years. It wasn't more specific than that so I don't know where they found an issue. Absolutely gutted.

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Re: EEA national applying for BC without PR

Post by sollie » Sat Feb 14, 2015 2:24 pm

Julian11 wrote:As I posted in another thread, I was declined, for supposedly not exercising treaty rights for 5 years. It wasn't more specific than that so I don't know where they found an issue. Absolutely gutted.

Hi Julian
Why won't you give us some more details? Maybe we can try to help you figure out what the issue is? When did you come to the UK? Did you have any breaks?

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Re: EEA national applying for BC without PR

Post by Julian11 » Sat Feb 14, 2015 5:50 pm

I had a mix of studies, work, and self sufficiency, all since 2009, which I proved with all the relevant docs (and the NCS was fine with it all): work documents/P60s/HMRC documents for work, the relevant degree documents for studies, and certified bank statements for self sufficiency.

For a short while, I worked abroad but I came back every weekend (and I sent proof of all of these flights) and when you add up the days gone, it does not even come close to ever hitting six months in any residency year (if you hit 6 months away in a residency year, you break your treaty rights).

So I really don't know what they disliked.

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Re: EEA national applying for BC without PR

Post by simply_the_best » Sat Feb 14, 2015 6:23 pm

Julian11 wrote:I had a mix of studies, work, and self sufficiency, all since 2009, which I proved with all the relevant docs (and the NCS was fine with it all): work documents/P60s/HMRC documents for work, the relevant degree documents for studies, and certified bank statements for self sufficiency.

For a short while, I worked abroad but I came back every weekend (and I sent proof of all of these flights) and when you add up the days gone, it does not even come close to ever hitting six months in any residency year (if you hit 6 months away in a residency year, you break your treaty rights).

So I really don't know what they disliked.
Oh men really sorry to hear that. U were dead excited about is getting approvals and you couldn't wait for your good news. Really feel for you

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Re: EEA national applying for BC without PR

Post by Julian11 » Sat Feb 14, 2015 6:29 pm

Am writing my reconsideration letter right now, but it is really hard to address the issue without knowing what the issue really was. "not exercised treaty rights for a continuous five years" is very broad. I have addressed the time abroad thing, but it'd be a pointless exercise if they know that this is no issue and it was actually something totally different that was the issue, something which I have not realised.

Does anyone know if I can somehow speak to my caseworker to try to get a more specific reason as to why the rejection, so I can address it more specifically in the letter?

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Re: EEA national applying for BC without PR

Post by LilyLalilu » Sat Feb 14, 2015 6:54 pm

Just checking; did you have CSI while studying/being self-sufficient?
All information given is just my opinion as a member of this forum and does not constitute immigration advice.

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Re: EEA national applying for BC without PR

Post by Julian11 » Sat Feb 14, 2015 7:51 pm

Yes. They did not mention that as an issue at all.

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