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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Pro

Post by akhurshid » Sun Jan 04, 2015 8:34 am

abBY20 wrote: Exactly my question too
I have passed the life in uk and I don't have a Uk degree so I don't know if liuk will be enough
Let's hope we get a help from one of the gurus
LIUK is not enough fro you. You will also need to prove your level of english.

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Pro

Post by akhurshid » Sun Jan 04, 2015 8:40 am

Sean J wrote:Dear All,

Need a urgent help, I am filling An form, Do i need to submit the life in Uk and Degree along with Letter from uni and Naric certificate again with application ? I ticked on I met the knowledge of language and life requirement to qualify for settlement on or after 28th October 2013 as i got my ilr on 3rd jan , 2013.

Please what documents i need to sent along with passports and ilr
If you still have LIUK certificate then you need to send that again and I would include English qualifications as well just in case.

Technically you shouldn't have to send these if you have proved it already but there is no documentation I can find to confirm that so its better to be safe than sorry.

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Pro

Post by alakbr » Sun Jan 04, 2015 10:05 pm

HI GUYS,

I NEED SOME URGENT ADVICE. I HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED MY APPROVAL FOR NATURALISTION. I HAVE THE CEREMONY BOOKED FOR THE 13TH JANUARY 2015. MY PROBLEM IS THAT I HAVE ALREADY GOT TRAVEL PLANS ON THE 20TH JAN 2015. I AM INDIAN AND INDIA DOES NOT HAVE DUAL NATIONALITY AS YOU MUST ALL KNOW.

MY QUERY IS, CAN I STILL ATTEND THE CEREMONY AND THEN TRAVEL ON MY INDIAN PASSPORT AFTER THE CEREMONY AND APPLY FOR BRITISH PASSPORT ONCE I AM BACK? OR WILL I HAVE ISSUES AT THE BORDER?

I DO HAVE TIME UNTIL 16TH MARCH TO GET THE CEREMONY DONE BUT I AM BACK ON THE 2ND MARCH AND THAT LEAVES A VERY TIGHT DEADLINE AND I MAY NEED TO OVERSTAY IN INDIA FOR CERTAIN REASONS AND MAY NOT BE BACK BY 16TH MARCH 2015.

WHAT ARE MY OPTIONS. PLEASE ADVICE ME. REALLY NEED TO KNOW.

THANKS, REALLY APPRECIATE. REGARDS

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Fillable Naturalisation Forms AN & MN

Post by mrehman » Mon Jan 05, 2015 10:36 am

Considering many people on this forum fill AN/MN forms manually it would be good to upload the Editable version of these to this forum. Also appreciate if some one can send me the most recent editable version of both forms at dbapho@yahoo.com.sg as I'm planning to submit my forms this Friday.

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Mansoor

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Pro

Post by Bingo_123 » Tue Jan 06, 2015 10:21 am

quick question guys,

Can i apply on the day i got ILR 1 year back so that UKBA gets the application next day.
I am planning to apply thru NCS.

i.e. if i got ILR on 1st Feb 2014, Can i book an appointment for 1st Feb 2015 or shall i wait ?

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Pro

Post by akhurshid » Tue Jan 06, 2015 11:17 am

Bingo_123 wrote:quick question guys,

Can i apply on the day i got ILR 1 year back so that UKBA gets the application next day.
I am planning to apply thru NCS.

i.e. if i got ILR on 1st Feb 2014, Can i book an appointment for 1st Feb 2015 or shall i wait ?
If you got ILR on 1st Feb 2014, your 12 months will be up on 31st of Jan 2015 so technically you can apply on 31st.

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Pro

Post by Bingo_123 » Tue Jan 06, 2015 11:32 am

thank you sir

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Pro

Post by gvmnt » Wed Jan 07, 2015 4:12 pm

akhurshid wrote:
Bingo_123 wrote:quick question guys,

Can i apply on the day i got ILR 1 year back so that UKBA gets the application next day.
I am planning to apply thru NCS.

i.e. if i got ILR on 1st Feb 2014, Can i book an appointment for 1st Feb 2015 or shall i wait ?
If you got ILR on 1st Feb 2014, your 12 months will be up on 31st of Jan 2015 so technically you can apply on 31st.
This begs a question - does the NCS office appointment bear any direct impact on the application date? As I understand, the application date technically starts from when the Home Office receives it, which would be a few days later than the NCS appointment.

The only reason I am looking for clarification is that I have traveled quite frequently in the preceding 5 years. My ILR was granted 21 Feb 2014, and with available travel windows in 2010 it's best for me to apply - i.e. "lock" the date of application - prior to 25 Feb 2014, otherwise I probably have to wait another half a year.

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Pro

Post by akhurshid » Wed Jan 07, 2015 5:29 pm

NCS has no impact on application whatsoever. All they do is check your application, make photo copies and post your application.
Application date is the date HO receives your application.

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Pro

Post by gvmnt » Thu Jan 08, 2015 1:13 pm

is there any advantage to applying as a family (2 adults + 2 kids) rather than individually? i guess i am thinking from the perspective of the total fees and also review. I did not seem to see any but another views would much appreciated.

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Pro

Post by Haider » Thu Jan 08, 2015 4:45 pm

Hi Guys, I am to about to do the AN form and have the following queries: a) regarding fees: from april 6, 2014, update, there is a AN Naturalisation fee of £906, and ceremony fee (Section 4C registration (ceremony fee only) of £80. Do I have to pay both and at the same time? b) regarding tax code: on my most recent p60, there is no 'tax ref. no.' but these is a 'Employer PAYE(pay as you earn) reference', is this is the tax ref no? Thanks.

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Pro

Post by pinina » Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:20 pm

Hello everyone and thanks a lot for you immense help.

I just came from the NSC, the appointment is one to one, so I sat on a desk with a lovely lady and she was checking all of my supporting documents plus my application.

I took photocopies of everything and she told me that part of the service is to make those copies themselves, so now you know it. I probably unwillingly chopped down half of the Amazons to photocopy every single page of every document that I posses. Including EVERY PAGE of my husbands passports (yes, both of them)
Best thing is just to take your originals and they will copy what they need.

They only took the Life in the UK original saying that they will send it back either way.

Regarding the Referees, she asked me if the professional one was the owner of a Limited company, so bare that in mind (I had to ask because I am a complete ignorant on this matters even when I just opened one myself.

Then she pointed out that my husband and I are living in different addresses which some how forced me to explain what happened and she told me that there wasn't necessary to explain but she had a funny face when she asked. Like she wasn't very happy or concerned about that. So now I'm all worried about that.

I printed the last Tax Return but she told me that they don't want online prints, so I had to write on the page 15 that I haven't been earning enough money to own any payments to the HMRC, I do remember paying a penalty for forgetting to press SEND after I finished the last self assessment though, But I paid so I don't have outstanding debts. I suppose that is a good thing? And Added my UTR so they can check this.

She seems to have done everything else for me, like crossing or erasing the point 3.7 and even adding the right amount of money to the pay slip which I left blank because I didn't know if it was 902 or 982. It is indeed, as many of you have pointed out here, 902 and that includes the fee for the ceremony.

I'm not sure what is going to happen, the whole disruption on my marriage over the last year has caused me a lot of troubles no only emotional but as you can see this isn't the ideal situation. I will keep you posted
And please do ask any questions that you think I can answer here now that is fresh in my mind!

Cheers and good weekend!
Pini

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Pro

Post by pinina » Sat Jan 10, 2015 1:17 pm

How do you get a copy of your tax return??

I do my self assessment online and even my housemate just told me that when he did it on paper he has never received his self assessment back from HMRC ever, so it is impossible for me to understand why on earth they will ask for your self assessment and not accept the print out from HMRC website?

Anyone explain?

I applied yesterday and gave them my UTR and the lady didn't take my printout so I spent the whole day and night fretting and searching around the house to see if I can send them a document that I don't possess and nobody I know seem to possess either!

This is very confusing!

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Pro

Post by DNA » Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:42 pm

Hi everyone!

Would appreciate any suggestions or tips for naturalisation application on basis of 3 years
Re: Following Queries

1) Does Home Office require copy of AN application form and copy of supporting documents as well along with original.

2) What supporting documents are required in addition to Passport, residence permit.

3) For language and knowledge, I assume LIUK and NARIC English Language assessment is required for non UK Degree Holders. I have non UK Degree and I had my ILR and LIUK before 28/10/2013. So what would I need in terms of knowledge and language. Secondly English assessment only confirms medium of teaching whereas HO also needs UK equivalent degree standard which I am not sure whether language assessment would cover it or not.

4) What can be attached to show proof of 3 years residence and work in UK e.g. P60, Council Tax Bill etc. I don not think HO requires another residential or tax proof in my case.

5) Just a general Question, is it mandatory to have valid passport for naturalisation application.

Thanks folks!

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Pro

Post by DNA » Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:42 pm

Hi everyone!

Would appreciate any suggestions or tips for naturalisation application on basis of 3 years
Re: Following Queries

1) Does Home Office require copy of AN application form and copy of supporting documents as well along with original.

2) What supporting documents are required in addition to Passport, residence permit.

3) For language and knowledge, I assume LIUK and NARIC English Language assessment is required for non UK Degree Holders. I have non UK Degree and I had my ILR and LIUK before 28/10/2013. So what would I need in terms of knowledge and language. Secondly English assessment only confirms medium of teaching whereas HO also needs UK equivalent degree standard which I am not sure whether language assessment would cover it or not.

4) What can be attached to show proof of 3 years residence and work in UK e.g. P60, Council Tax Bill etc. I don not think HO requires another residential or tax proof in my case.

5) Just a general Question, is it mandatory to have valid passport for naturalisation application.

Thanks folks!

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Pro

Post by akhurshid » Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:38 am

DNA wrote:Hi everyone!

Would appreciate any suggestions or tips for naturalisation application on basis of 3 years
Re: Following Queries

1) Does Home Office require copy of AN application form and copy of supporting documents as well along with original.

2) What supporting documents are required in addition to Passport, residence permit.

3) For language and knowledge, I assume LIUK and NARIC English Language assessment is required for non UK Degree Holders. I have non UK Degree and I had my ILR and LIUK before 28/10/2013. So what would I need in terms of knowledge and language. Secondly English assessment only confirms medium of teaching whereas HO also needs UK equivalent degree standard which I am not sure whether language assessment would cover it or not.

4) What can be attached to show proof of 3 years residence and work in UK e.g. P60, Council Tax Bill etc. I don not think HO requires another residential or tax proof in my case.

5) Just a general Question, is it mandatory to have valid passport for naturalisation application.

Thanks folks!
1. No
2. None if there is no gap between your passport in 3 years.
3. Check if your degree is recognised in PBS calculator. If not, NARIC assessment and letter from university confirming that degree was taught in english.
4. Nothing else is needed if you don't have gap in passports
5. No but if your passport has expired, then you need to show you were in the country since your passport has expired. They usually ask for payslips for that period.

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Pro

Post by sme01 » Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:58 pm

Hi,

If someone has bank loan and credit card loan and if he wants to apply for naturalisation, can it effect his application in any way?
is there someone here who has the same situation can share his/her experience.

Thanks

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Pro

Post by sme01 » Thu Jan 15, 2015 4:00 pm

Hi,

If someone has bank loan and credit card loan and if he wants to apply for naturalisation, can it effect his application in any way?
is there someone here who has the same situation can share his/her experience.

Thanks

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Pro

Post by akhurshid » Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:08 pm

sme01 wrote:Hi,

If someone has bank loan and credit card loan and if he wants to apply for naturalisation, can it effect his application in any way?
is there someone here who has the same situation can share his/her experience.

Thanks
It shouldn't as long you are making regular payments.

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Pro

Post by DNA » Fri Jan 16, 2015 7:00 am

Does HO require ELA or SOC to satisfy English language requirement. Because I requested ELA from NARIC as it says in AN guidance but how to fullfil UK equivalent standard of degree. Do I need Statement of comparability as well.

Secondly Naric stated in their letter that degree is not at C1 level whereas HO needs B1 for naturalisation. Does it mean I need to do B1 or this letter would do.

Can some one help please!

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Pro

Post by irrfat666 » Sun Jan 18, 2015 5:39 pm

Hi there,

It's been 7 months since I applied for naturalisation application but haven't heard back. Can someone please advise what can be done in such situation to get an update or accelerate application process?

Here are the dates that will help you understand the situation better:

Application date: 13th June 2014 (Ealing Council - NCS)
Fee debited from bank account: 23rd June 2014
Application Status: Pending

I have called the Home Office 3 times after after 16th December 2014 (6 months completed) and their system shows application is under consideration. I sent a letter as well to ask about the potential date for a decision and the contact centre confirmed they have received the letter and it's logged in the system and it was passed to the caseworker.

I still haven't heard back from them so should I write to local MP about it? Do you have a template I can use to write to MP?

If there is anything else I can do please guide me through.

Regards
Irrfat

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Pro

Post by z18runway » Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:53 pm

there is no such template, find who is your mp, email them from their website,or write to him to his office address and enter details of your application, your ref, there you go.

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Pro

Post by indespair » Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:54 pm

Hi All

I'll make it short and hope someone will shed some light on the case. I applied in Dec with under 18 child. The child's invitation for the ceremony arrived today (dated 12 Jan) but my one (main applicant) has not come yet. Should I be worried? I have seen quite similar post somewhere here some time ago but can not find it now. Please either point me to look for it or if you experienced the same let me know the outcome. Thanks a million. Soo worried...

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Pro

Post by akhurshid » Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:59 pm

indespair wrote:Hi All

I'll make it short and hope someone will shed some light on the case. I applied in Dec with under 18 child. The child's invitation for the ceremony arrived today (dated 12 Jan) but my one (main applicant) has not come yet. Should I be worried? I have seen quite similar post somewhere here some time ago but can not find it now. Please either point me to look for it or if you experienced the same let me know the outcome. Thanks a million. Soo worried...
Applications are processed separately. I wouldn't be worried.

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Pro

Post by indespair » Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:08 pm

Thanks akhurshid. I never knew they were processed separately. That is strange. Main applicant might even be refused but dependant will still be successful? I can't see the logic in them being processed separately..

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