Passport refused - uncancelled passport in maiden name

noajthan wrote:

ouflak1 wrote:If those of you in this thread would be willing to organize a bit, this might be of use to you. Since the UK is violating the Universal Declaration of Human Rights Article 13. section 2, this would be a case that would be difficult for the UK to defend. Throw in the fact that this implementation of the law blatantly targets women, and I think you have win-by-default case against the Home Office.

But unfortunately this UK class action protocol appears limited to scope of consumer law. And passports are issued by RP not consumer law.

Yeah, the U.S. is way ahead of the curve on this concept. I'm not sure that's necessarily a good thing however....

Can anybody provide any advice on what should be done after the new regulations has come in?

Shall I apply for naturalisation using my old name and for passport I could use my new name if I provide my deed poll + proof of address and employment in my new name, is that correct?

Hi All,

I am applying for my eldest son to become a British Citizen and obtain his first passport. However i think things are going to get a little complicated reading this thread. He has a current Uzbek passport in which his surname is that of his birth farther. On his ILR card we also kept this same name as we thought this is what was needed. However at school and with the local council we use my surname.

My son is 13 and wants to use my surname. Therefore i was going to apply for citizenship and passport in my surname. However given his ILR card and current uzbek passport i think this would cause a problem. Therefore i am thinking what if i don't submit the uzbek passport and as such just submit the request with current UK id proof and also ask for it to be highlighted on the passport he has been known by another name.

Any advice would much appreciated.

uzbek1 wrote:Hi All,

I am applying for my eldest son to become a British Citizen and obtain his first passport. However i think things are going to get a little complicated reading this thread. He has a current Uzbek passport in which his surname is that of his birth farther. On his ILR card we also kept this same name as we thought this is what was needed. However at school and with the local council we use my surname.

My son is 13 and wants to use my surname. Therefore i was going to apply for citizenship and passport in my surname. However given his ILR card and current uzbek passport i think this would cause a problem. Therefore i am thinking what if i don't submit the uzbek passport and as such just submit the request with current UK id proof and also ask for it to be highlighted on the passport he has been known by another name.

Any advice would much appreciated.

Welcome.

All uncancelled passports to be submitted when applying for a British passport.
This is so that HMPO can check all identities.

You will face difficulties if naturalising in one name whilst presenting passports in another name.
Suggest naturalise in current father's name as per current passport.
Once safely naturalised and first British passport issued then you can address change of name and new passport.

You have a further complication in that dual nationality appears not to be permitted for Uzbek nationals; you may wish to dig into that matter.

When you mention Uzbekistan doesn't allow dual citizenship. Does that mean we would need to cancel his citizenship using the Embassy before applying? Or can we cancel afterwards ?

noajthan wrote:.....
Suggest naturalise in current father's name as per current passport.
Once safely naturalised and first British passport issued then you can address change of name and new passport.

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How would this address the name change issue given that when renewing a passport and changing any details also requires uncancelled passports to be submitted

Jujumar87 wrote:How would this address the name change issue given that when renewing a passport and changing any details also requires uncancelled passports to be submitted

...then address...

Once safely British you can do whatever it takes to sort out the name.
Inluding cancelling old passports, revoking old citizenship - whatever it takes.
Worst case: at least the person is British.

Our situation is this:

My father who is 77 got his Registration Certificate withwith his name and surname only and his uncancelled overseas passport has 2 middle names.

HMPO has rejected his application because names don't match. His only option is to travel overseas and change his name by Poll Deed and apply for the overseas passport.

His health is quite frail and travelling abroad is not an option. The High Commission here are no help insisting that they can't change anything here.

He is in a complete limbo now. Any help would be highly appreciated.

sakoni2001 wrote:Our situation is this:

My father who is 77 got his Registration Certificate withwith his name and surname only and his uncancelled overseas passport has 2 middle names.

HMPO has rejected his application because names don't match. His only option is to travel overseas and change his name by Poll Deed and apply for the overseas passport.

His health is quite frail and travelling abroad is not an option. The High Commission here are no help insisting that they can't change anything here.

He is in a complete limbo now. Any help would be highly appreciated.

Can father cancel foreign passport?
Revoke foreign citizenship?

noajthan wrote:

sakoni2001 wrote:Our situation is this:

My father who is 77 got his Registration Certificate withwith his name and surname only and his uncancelled overseas passport has 2 middle names.

HMPO has rejected his application because names don't match. His only option is to travel overseas and change his name by Poll Deed and apply for the overseas passport.

His health is quite frail and travelling abroad is not an option. The High Commission here are no help insisting that they can't change anything here.

He is in a complete limbo now. Any help would be highly appreciated.

Can father cancel foreign passport?
Revoke foreign citizenship?

Not an option because all his assets there will have to be changed too which means flying there.

Hi there

If I have to go back to my country to have my name changed on the passport, then will there be a problem coming back to UK as name is different?

Thanks
Connie[/quote]

yuppie4connie wrote:Hi there

If I have to go back to my country to have my name changed on the passport, then will there be a problem coming back to UK as name is different?

Thanks
Connie

It would help if you posted your situation so that members can advise of what options you have.

My wife is denied a renewal of her British Passport, because the UKPA insists that she change her name on her Russian Passport or get a letter from the Russian Authorities that this is not possible.

Only thing is my wife and I live and work in Qatar and my wife's right to exit and enter Qatar is linked to her British Citizenship and to her British Passport.

A predicament that the UKPA is so far averting its gaze to.

So, my wife is stranded in Qatar thanks to the UKPA and Home Office Policy on British dual national wives of British Citizens.

Hi all,

A quick note to say "hello!" and give you the link to my FOI request related to this thread.

Gender discrimination under the One Name Policy: Breakdown of adult passport applications delayed, or denied, due to the implementation of the "one name policy", broken down by gender.
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... redirect=1

You have all done great work over these nearly 500 individual posts on this thread. I am sure your combined efforts have helped many people whose home countries do not allow name changes to passports, to manage to obtain a British passport with an observation. It seems though, that there are still a huge number of women whose passport applications are being delayed or denied due to the inappropriate implementation of the one name policy, and that as several previous posters have mentioned, demonstrates discrimination both on the basis of gender and marital status.

I'm not sure whether many of you are still engaged with this issue, but thought that it would be worth updating this thread with the above link in case you are! Please do add your comments on the link above with your experiences if you too are affected.

Many thanks for all of the good work that you do.

(long time lurker, first time poster ...)

This is a great letter and on point. I hope the UK government sees the failing in their ways and implements the necessary changes to fairness and equality.

towards wrote:Hi all,

A quick note to say "hello!" and give you the link to my FOI request related to this thread.

Gender discrimination under the One Name Policy: Breakdown of adult passport applications delayed, or denied, due to the implementation of the "one name policy", broken down by gender.
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... redirect=1

You have all done great work over these nearly 500 individual posts on this thread. I am sure your combined efforts have helped many people whose home countries do not allow name changes to passports, to manage to obtain a British passport with an observation. It seems though, that there are still a huge number of women whose passport applications are being delayed or denied due to the inappropriate implementation of the one name policy, and that as several previous posters have mentioned, demonstrates discrimination both on the basis of gender and marital status.

I'm not sure whether many of you are still engaged with this issue, but thought that it would be worth updating this thread with the above link in case you are! Please do add your comments on the link above with your experiences if you too are affected.

Many thanks for all of the good work that you do.

(long time lurker, first time poster ...)

Thanks that is a good idea - HMPO examiners aren't all aware of the Change of Name guidance, depending on who is dealing with your application, it might be significantly delayed.

Another point - what is your view on having the previous name on the Observation Page? This would only apply to dual nationals, so is this fair? I fear people who changed their name and have their previous one on the Observation Page might trigger questions from officials.

jjm07 wrote: Another point - what is your view on having the previous name on the Observation Page?

I think this invites discrimination based on ethnicity and gender.

jjm07 wrote:This would only apply to dual nationals, so is this fair?

Not necessarily. In many cases, the women no longer has her former citizenship, losing it upon either marriage and/or attainment of UK citizenship (or by whatever other laws apply to the country in question). So this would apply to all married women of a different ethnic background that is not UK-born. Nothing says discrimination like discrimination.

jjm07 wrote: I fear people who changed their name and have their previous one on the Observation Page might trigger questions from officials.

Your fear is well founded.

Hi,
I'm having big issues with HMPO at the moment. I am a dual national French and British, and got married last year. I applied for my first British passport a couple of months ago, and naively told them about my French passport. This was issued 10 years ago, and due to expire in a couple of weeks, but obviously issued in my maiden name. Since doing this I have had no end of problems, as I have no intention of renewing my French passport due to the high cost involved.
I have also just sent off documents to the French consulate to register my marriage, which will be completed in February!!
I have told HMPO about how even once my marriage is registered with the French gov't, I will always be known as my maiden name on all official documents, they don't care.

I was basically given a few options:
- Wait for my marriage registration and renew my French passport (which will take another 3 months to arrive), then send them a copy and they might then issue my British one
- Receive my British passport in my maiden name so it aligns with my French, however another examiner told me they won't do this because it isn't the name I use on a daily basis
- Renounce my French nationality, which I have no intention of doing at all.

I have gone to my MP and they have just been sent a letter from HMPO about the one name policy, and the MP's office don't seem to want to go any further unless I can come up with more evidence of exceptions.
I have seen on here that people have been successful in getting HMPO to put in observations in British passports along the line of:
The bearer of this passport holds a ***** passport in ******* name due to expire ****** with ******** passport number.
Would anyone be able to help providing me with letters (obviously remove personal details) they received from HMPO detailing this so that my MP can go back to them and show that there is precedent?

I also wanted to know if anyone has been successful in getting their money back once they made an application and been through this horrible issue and decided to abandon all hope?

Thanks

Phew - so I literally read ALL 25 pages in this thread and THANK YOU so much for all your input! I am glad I researched on this and have discovered this gem BEFORE MY APPLICATION. I am eligible to apply for citizenship and British passport mid-February. Now the same concerns I may have to repeat... this is my story and my first post!

1. Married but not using married name in ANY of my documents.
2. Philippine passport and ILR permit are in maiden name.
3. I am UNABLE to change my Philippine passport to my maiden name because: 1) I got married in the US in 2015 and only filed for a Report of Marriage in November 2017, 2) PSA or Philippine Statistics Authority takes 8-12 months to process this before they can issue me a 'Filipino version of a marriage certificate'

My questions
1. Should I just apply using my MAIDEN name? Preferably I'd like to use my MARRIED name.
2. Should I apply using my MARRIED name, enclose a letter stating my case that I cannot change my Philippine passport at the moment, and declare that I will cancel my passport?
3. Is passport cancellation at the Philippine Embassy in London a known thing now or still risky?
4. Is it worth to wait for nearly a year to get my PSA-issued marriage certificate, then apply for Philippine passport (8-12 weeks), then apply for citizenship? That means all this will be delayed for a FULL YEAR.

I have sent an-email and mailing a letter to HMPO in the morning and will also give them a call.

Would be helpful to receive input on whether my options 1 or 2 sound feasible.

Option 1 Use of maiden name is less complicated, especially when you are using your maiden name in all other documents.

vinny wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:28 am

Option 1 Use of maiden name is less complicated, especially when you are using your maiden name in all other documents.

Thanks vinny. I agree.

Was there anyone in this thread who was successful doing Option 1? Most experiences in this thread were already submitted applications and have written in their married name, isn't it?

Will I be able to change to my married name in my (future) British passport somewhere down the line - say in a few months/years' time? Will there be an issue in doing so?

They expect your name to be the same in all your documents.

We now have a similar problem. My wife has dual Nationality, Argentina and UK. She has lived in England for 38 years, worked, and receives a full State pension. She was granted British Citizenship in 1989 under her previous married name, with her maiden name also stated on the Certificate of registration. Her Argentine passport also in her previous married name expired 30 years ago, but which is not cancelled. She has held a valid UK passport for the same amount of time, having renewed it twice, the last time including the change of her previous married name to her current married name. Her UK passport expires in June 2018, so we applied for renewal in February. We couldn't do it before, as we were abroad. The Passport Office insisted that we had to also send the expired Argentine passport. I even spoke to the PO while we were abroad asking what was the relevance as it expired 30 years ago, and it would be ignored anyway if my wife tried to renew it. I was not, at any time, informed that it had to be in the same name, and there is no reference to this in the online guidance notes. Hey ho, the renewal is refused. We have booked and paid for flights to BA 31st March, as her son is getting married there. I have had 5 long discussions with the PO, am £25 so far down on tracked and signed-for postage. We found that Argentina these days only issue passports in a woman's maiden name, which, by the way, I think is a good idea, so now we have to go to the Argentine Consulate in London, to get a new temporary Argentine passport, change the name on the flight ticket, all for around £300. They will also notify the PO, what good that will do, we don't know yet, because they can't even tell me that they have received my letter that was delivered a week ago, and anyway they have all probably drowned by now in this obstructive bureaucracy. They gave me reasons of security, or the world is upside down, I can't remember which.

Can you make a claim against HMPO for expenses paid? Send them copies of receipts.

Hi Everyone,

I have been following this thread because, as Spanish, I can change my name after marriage (Spanish law does not contemplate changes of surname, except for very extraordinary circumstances). I hope my contributions helps any Spaniard or other national of a country where surnames can't be changed!

In UK I changed my surname as my husbands' one is short and easy (convenience more than anything).
My Naturalisation certificate was issued with my married name.

When I applied for my passport, HMPO contacted me as my Spanish passport is on my maiden name. The letter gave me to options:
"For us to issue a passport on your married name you need to change the name shown on your Spanish passport [...] or if this cannot be done we will need a letter from the Spanish Embassy stating your name can not be changed in your Spanish passport."

I did the second and sent the letter issued by the Spanish Consulate in London together with a "Certificate of Diversity of Surnames" (Certificado de diversidad de Apellidos) issued by the Spanish Civil Registry.

I've done a lot of research on forums about what to do and I have to say that HMPO was not a pain at all with my case. The contrary! Once this was received the passport was issued in 2 days! I have heard though, it depends a lot on who handles your passport application. Maybe I just got lucky!
I want to think that things are getting better. But you have to do your homework.

My passport has as annotation that I have a Spanish Passport valid until MM/YYYY that has my maiden name XXX YYY ZZZ.

Hope it helps!!!