Unsuccessful applications

Casa wrote:

kimo wrote:Wow why they say in there website we have to wait 12 month after holding PR TO apply for citizenship or this for people who enter uk legally only .

Legal entrance and residence only.

Received my approval today ?!?

Thats great congratulation Kimo
Can you please share your experience. will help others too

kimo wrote:

Casa wrote:

kimo wrote:Wow why they say in there website we have to wait 12 month after holding PR TO apply for citizenship or this for people who enter uk legally only .

Legal entrance and residence only.

Received my approval today ?!?

Kimo did you declare your illegal entry?
how you describe? your case is exceptional.

kimo wrote:Hi every one. I hope I'm in the right place. I'm new this form. Ok I need some advice pls. I'm applying for British Citizenship and I'm very worry after reading this comment Above. I hold a permanent residence through marriage since 10/2014 but I was illegal immigrant before my marriage on 2009 , I enter uk in 2005 as illegally , I didn't apply for asulme or refuge, ok my question is in the AN form they ask for date of entry in uk ? I don't know what to do or write please any advice

Thank you rassel. Yes I did declare it. Exactly 3month after my application I received my approval today. Maybe I was just lucky.

Thanks kimo
Thats great.

kimo wrote:Thank you rassel. Yes I did declare it. Exactly 3month after my application I received my approval today. Maybe I was just lucky.

kimo wrote:Thank you rassel. Yes I did declare it. Exactly 3month after my application I received my approval today. Maybe I was just lucky.

If subject to discretion it shows discretion can work in both ways.

But Noajthan

Law is equal to all. Kim case out immigration law. Sp in good character ground (14 December 2014). If Kim already declare he was over stay nearly 5 years.
As you know its depend on case worker as well.

noajthan wrote:

kimo wrote:Thank you rassel. Yes I did declare it. Exactly 3month after my application I received my approval today. Maybe I was just lucky.

If subject to discretion it shows discretion can work in both ways.

Rassel wrote:But Noajthan

Law is equal to all. Kim case out immigration law. Sp in good character ground (14 December 2014). If Kim already declare he was over stay nearly 5 years.
As you know its depend on case worker as well.

noajthan wrote:

kimo wrote:Thank you rassel. Yes I did declare it. Exactly 3month after my application I received my approval today. Maybe I was just lucky.

If subject to discretion it shows discretion can work in both ways.

Ofcourse law applies to all. So does discretion (where/when it applies).

Good character is not clearly defined in law but is assessed on the balance of probabilities;
however immigration-related breaches of regulations are clearly described as normally leading to refusal.

Luck or oversight or discretion ? - who can tell (except the caseworker - and she's not telling).

Yes i'm agree with you. I respect your opinion. You are expert in this platform.
But I'm shocked some time case worker refuse the application for very funny reason
and some time they accept the application there is no ground. But i'm happy for Kim.
Hopefully we will see some more good news.

Thanks

So those that were refused their BC applications did they receive any request for further information?

Befor refuse they will ask all necessary document.
After refusal or reconsideration, They didn't ask normally.

Was kimo asked for more document?and how did he declare his illegal time in uk

As noajthan mention » Wed Apr 20, 2016 9:17 pm

If subject to discretion it shows discretion can work in both ways.

if he send support document how he living uk during that period 2005-2009, and can prove he is not involve any kind of illegal works.
Again depends on case worker, chance is 50 50.

Finally got refusal letter yesterday.
Applied back in Feb 2014.
Decision made on 1st May 2016.
Received refusal letter on 5th May 2016.
Thinking for reconsideration in few days.
Best regards
Babe khyber

babe_khyber wrote:Finally got refusal letter yesterday.
Applied back in Feb 2014.
Decision made on 1st May 2016.
Received refusal letter on 5th May 2016.
Thinking for reconsideration in few days.
Best regards
Babe khyber

Wow, 2 years and 3 months to reach a refusal. What were the reasons?

Finally I have received decision after 2 year 3 month but unfortunately that was refused by the point of asylum interview which is done in 2006. It's totally discrimination because if a some one member of politically party member it doesn't mean the member were bed character. Secondly if the home office doubt why they grated asylum in the Immigration rules 10 year ago. Then at stage of Settlements ILR they concluded any investigation and didn't find anything than granted ILR in February 2013. After one year we applied Naturalisation application plus registration for children and they delayed decision for 2 year and 3 month letter they just refused and pointed your asylum interview you have confirmed you were member of the group which is against the government and American. But at December last year the home office Immigration minister sent a confirmation letter to my MP about any investigation against my involvement war crimes as been completed and didn't revealed any concerns about my character and also confirmed that my file allocated to caseworker for decision. Now they mentioned his refusal letter if you think our decision is wrong then you have right of reconsideration. Anyway I am thinking to instruct my solicitor for reconsideration the decision. There is any chance's in reconsideration one of my child is already British.
Let's see I have hoping.

Babe khyber

babe_khyber wrote:Finally I have received decision after 2 year 3 month but unfortunately that was refused by the point of asylum interview which is done in 2006. It's totally discrimination because if a some one member of politically party member it doesn't mean the member were bed character. Secondly if the home office doubt why they grated asylum in the Immigration rules 10 year ago. Then at stage of Settlements ILR they concluded any investigation and didn't find anything than granted ILR in February 2013. After one year we applied Naturalisation application plus registration for children and they delayed decision for 2 year and 3 month letter they just refused and pointed your asylum interview you have confirmed you were member of the group which is against the government and American. But at December last year the home office Immigration minister sent a confirmation letter to my MP about any investigation against my involvement war crimes as been completed and didn't revealed any concerns about my character and also confirmed that my file allocated to caseworker for decision. Now they mentioned his refusal letter if you think our decision is wrong then you have right of reconsideration. Anyway I am thinking to instruct my solicitor for reconsideration the decision. There is any chance's in reconsideration one of my child is already British.
Let's see I have hoping.

Babe khyber

I'm really sorry to hear this bad news broth , I was following your messages , its shocking after all this wait , I hope that u have your own passport to travel , did they say to u when u can apply again ?

Very sad new!!!
No asylum ILR can't use own country passport.
Can travel only on special permission if
any of family member passed away.

Babe khyber best of luck for your.

The home office mentioned his refusal letter that you didn't disclosure you were member of organisation or supported to group which concerned to be terrorist. Also mentioned in refusal letter if you were still wish to be British you can apply but fresh application with new fee and new English language requirement but it not granted if before applying 19 April 2026. Honestly I was didn't hidden any information which is the home office didn't knew because. In 2006 I was told the same story the home office granted asylum in Immigration rules 1951 convention and I was granted Travel documents 2 time and third time at ILR Stage I fill as well the same declaration but I knew it was just discrimination by the home office due to my Muslim and race, faith. Even two time they refused my children as well who were resident of this country since 2006 and one of his brother is British. I am thinking for reconsideration if it is still refuse then may be going to high court for judicial review for the home office discrimited decision. Anyway thank you all of you who were disappointed to hear my refusal news.

Best wishes.
Babe khyber

hi i am new here i am kinda lost but I need some advice.
I made an application for naturalisation in 2014 and it was refused because I did it too early, I was given an indefinite leave to remain in 2010 before that I came here as an unaccompanied asylum seeker 14 going 15 yrs because from Liberia. i was given an discretion remain to leave for 2 years then was refused. i went to court several times until a judge refused my plead and deny me any appeal. i had to sign every 2weeks until i was granted indefinite to leave to remain.

I would like to know if with this breach of immigration i can still apply and also with the new good character where applicant have to to wait for 10 years does that relate to me.
Thanks

babe_khyber wrote:The home office mentioned his refusal letter that you didn't disclosure you were member of organisation or supported to group which concerned to be terrorist. Also mentioned in refusal letter if you were still wish to be British you can apply but fresh application with new fee and new English language requirement but it not granted if before applying 19 April 2026. Honestly I was didn't hidden any information which is the home office didn't knew because. In 2006 I was told the same story the home office granted asylum in Immigration rules 1951 convention and I was granted Travel documents 2 time and third time at ILR Stage I fill as well the same declaration but I knew it was just discrimination by the home office due to my Muslim and race, faith. Even two time they refused my children as well who were resident of this country since 2006 and one of his brother is British. I am thinking for reconsideration if it is still refuse then may be going to high court for judicial review for the home office discrimited decision. Anyway thank you all of you who were disappointed to hear my refusal news.

Best wishes.
Babe khyber

Your long-running case and reaction to the outcome is certainly a testament to your patience.

A grant of ILR does not mean citizenship automatically follows or that concessions made at earlier stages can carry over because different legislation, requirements, degrees of discretion (etc etc) all apply.

The Home Secretary has no need to 'discriminate' (and discrimination by race, faith or etc would be illegal anyway) as every applicant's good character is decided on a balance of probabilities.

You can see the thought-processes likely to have been applied during the 2 years or so of weighing up and assessing your case, here:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... _D_v02.pdf
- eg ref section 5

Good luck.

Hi all,

After a 13 month wait, finally some good news, my reconsideration was successful!

Update to timeline:
Initial application: 1/2015
Refusal: 2/2015
Reconsideration: 4/2015
Approval: 10th May 2016

Thinking of you all, and I hope to hear of your approvals soon.

Tx

Congratulations it is good news. Just share us your story what is the reason of your refusal? Did you involved Solicitor after refusal or just you filled reconsideration form. I was waiting for decision about 2year and 3 month but unfortunately at the end I gotten refusal letter. Now I am preparing a reconsideration application. Is there any other options for judicial review or high court appeal against the home office decision.
Best wishes for the next step.

Babe khyber

TimBC what a news! Congrats!

Your approval has given me much needed hope - it's a shame what a missing certificate can do.
Hopefully we are not that far behind!