137 Pages EEA application form, what for exactly

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137 Pages EEA application form, what for exactly

Postby Obie » Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:58 pm

I have seen the 129 pages EEA Application form. What exactly is this for.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... orm-eea-fm

It looks like it is a means of Frustrating people to pay more postage, and additional legal fees.

Utterly crazy, and unnecessary, and a cynical measure.
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Re: 129 Pages EEA application for, what for

Postby dalebutt » Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:21 pm

I suppose applicants could just ignore the form. write a letter of application, with all supporting documents, declaring their conviction status, and append it with a note saying the form is unnecessarily long, we simply do not have time to fill it. These lot do have issues understanding the difference in rights under the Reg and the almost evil incarnate national rules.
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Re: 129 Pages EEA application for, what for

Postby fatimahh » Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:29 pm

They then go on stating in page 2

"To save paper, postage and storage costs, we recommend that you only print and send us the:
• front page of the form, and
• sections of the form that you have actually completed (including the payment section)."

This is a joke!!!!
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Re: 129 Pages EEA application for, what for

Postby Obie » Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:31 pm

I am in the middle of doing an application for someone and was shell shocked and bewildered to see that it was so overwhelming.

I am minded to simply fill the relevant pages, and ignore sending the nearly 90% irrelevant pages.

Said applicant should fill section 8, 10 , 18 , 19 , 20 and 21.

But the irony is that Section 19 and 20 is missing from the form.

It is a shame that even they cannot get the form right, nevermind a poor applicant.

Extended family member have 102 pages form to fill.


Registration Certificate is 52.

UK should really be kicked out of the UK. This is an utter shambles, and deliberately trampling upon EU law and its policy.
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Re: 129 Pages EEA application for, what for

Postby kunleswags » Fri Feb 06, 2015 6:45 pm

Obie u are damn right.it's a damn violation of EU law and the British governments high handedness knows no bounds.the most annoying part of that form is the part which requires the EU citizens and their family members to disclose the public funds they are claiming but exempts family members of British citizens from filling that section.is that not itself a violation of EU law and does it not amount to discrimination which is forbidden under EU law?.

Anyway I contacted the European commission representatives in UK to complain about the form and they requested I should forward my complaints to this email address Which is Jeffrey.lamb@ec.europa.eu.

So I urge everyone on this forum to send their complaints about the form to that email address so that it can be addressed and taken off.
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Re: 129 Pages EEA application for, what for

Postby Obie » Fri Feb 06, 2015 6:50 pm

The form Is mad. Asking if people are in receipt of benefit.

Asking for divorce petitions to be provided.

It is crazy.
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Re: 129 Pages EEA application for, what for

Postby UKBA HUNTER » Fri Feb 06, 2015 6:51 pm

Almost the fee for all UK route applications has been raising £400 which is to disturb while earning from applicant. But on the other hand when they cannot do so in EU route applications then they increase its pages instead of fee. They really clowns and jokers :D :P
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Re: 129 Pages EEA application for, what for

Postby osbrandouk » Fri Feb 06, 2015 7:09 pm

Hi obie,
my only concern by this new ridiculous EEA application form is actually section 18 of the form. in this section, they asked the applicant for information about any public fund or state benefits they or their eea national sponsor are claiming or have claimed since they have lived in the uk. i have the feeling HO will start refusing application from eea national and their family members who r claiming in-work benefits like tax credits, housing and council tax benefits. i might be wrong but i just have the feeling this could be another strategy from HO to frustrate eea national and their family member in this county.
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Re: 129 Pages EEA application for, what for

Postby Jgorf » Fri Feb 06, 2015 7:13 pm

It's is certainly mind bugging to wonder what let to such an extreme and compltely unnecessary approach to era applications. It's not just the release of a bulky new form that is the problem, you are now required to also submit photocopies of all original documents submitted ( see document and evidence section) . This is insane. Did they ever thought of the cost of postage and cost of copying tons of documents that gets requested? ..

Fair enough, it is stated on section 2 (About your application) to print out and complete only those sections relevant to you. However those so called "relevant sections" are full of repeated questions phrased in different wagys.

It needs proper reading of the section guidelines to understand requirement , though I must admit that a good number are worded very poorly.

This new approach I think will just frustrate an average person and may even frustrate the very learned people.

I think the aim is just to make the process more difficult for people.
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Re: 129 Pages EEA application for, what for

Postby Jgorf » Fri Feb 06, 2015 7:19 pm

Obie wrote:The form Is mad. Asking if people are in receipt of benefit.

Asking for divorce petitions to be provided.

It is crazy.


They are barking mad. Divorce petition does not need to be provided. The court issues a confirmation stating the date petition was submitted to court. That is what people should submit to prove 3 year of marriage prior to divorce. I hope proper thought went into these requirements
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Re: 129 Pages EEA application for, what for

Postby Obie » Fri Feb 06, 2015 7:33 pm

Section 2 does not say to print only the section relevant to you.

It ask for photograph of Sponsor and sponsor include former EEA family member.

Difficult to see how a divorced EEA national will freely give their photograph.
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Re: 129 Pages EEA application for, what for

Postby UKBA HUNTER » Fri Feb 06, 2015 8:22 pm

Too many questions about child and grandchild. And new sections to disclose expenses and accommodation. Language and integration with EU country, these unnecessary questions all seems like loopholes to cause delay in processing and applicants will definitely do a lot mistakes in filling form. I think fee is also to £65 from April.
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Re: 129 Pages EEA application for, what for

Postby Obie » Sun Feb 08, 2015 2:57 pm

It will appear that I may be slightly wrong.

The form appears to stipulate that applicant should only print the front of the application, and portions relevant to their individual case, in order to save postage, time and storage.

So things are not as bad as it seems after all.
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Re: 129 Pages EEA application for, what for

Postby takfarinas » Sun Feb 08, 2015 4:23 pm

Hi
I am going to fill this Form for my friend, i would like to ask some questions please?
1) My friend is an overstayer in partner relation with a British Citizen. is it the right form ?
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/399693/EEA_FM__01-15.pdf
2)if is the case, could anyone tell me which sections should i fill for him, because it's seems really long, i dont think that my printer got enough ink on it right now. xd

Thanks
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Re: 129 Pages EEA application for, what for

Postby mkhan2525 » Sun Feb 08, 2015 5:39 pm

The long application form is covered in this article amongst other things highlighting the way in which this government creates a hostile environment for migrants.

http://www.migrantsrights.org.uk/blog/2 ... nt-which-n
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Re: 129 Pages EEA application for, what for

Postby chaoclive » Sun Feb 08, 2015 8:21 pm

Obie wrote:The form Is mad. Asking if people are in receipt of benefit.

Asking for divorce petitions to be provided.

It is crazy.


This is something I thought was really weird. Apparently benefits like working tax credits, for example, won't affect the rights of a person working in the UK!

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... pter12.pdf seems to suggest that only self-sufficient people receiving benefits would be affected.

I get a small amount of working tax credits and thought that this would be ok! Starting to think that this may not be the case now... There must be some reason why they are asking for this info.
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Re: 129 Pages EEA application for, what for

Postby rosebead » Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:17 am

The long form is confusing and daunting. It's nothing more than an attempt to frighten off EU migrants from asserting their free movement rights and to make them feel unwelcome.
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Re: 129 Pages EEA application for, what for

Postby Obie » Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:47 am

I incorporate some degree of intimidation .

Seeking to scare EU migrant and family members.

It is so complex to the point that it may be advising for people to seek legal advise, especially those on benefit or seperate from their EEA partner.

It also requires petition of divorce.

This is an attempt on clamping on people who seek to rely on retention.

By asking them for the petition or copy of it, they are seeking to use it as a basis of refusal.
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Re: 129 Pages EEA application for, what for

Postby Jgorf » Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:55 am

Form D9H(notice of issue of DIvorce Petition) which a court issued to a petitioner upon reciept of divorce petition clearly states the date divorce petition was submitted to court.

This form will suffice in place of the D8 form if you have it. HO ask for divorce petition as proof that marriage lasted 3 years before commencement of divorce proceedings. So if I disagree that divorce petition must be submitted. (read that section and see why it's being asked for at the first place)

So I see no reason why D8 form should be submitted if you have the official confirmation from court stating date divorce petition was submitted.

Let's not read the requirements on this new form the other way round.

In my opinion , what they have done is the be very clear on the documents they require to avoid rejecting applications.

The only main difference I have spotted is the section asking to declare public funds. not sure what they can achieve with of I'm being honest . They wouldn't reject an application of someone that is exercising treaty rights and receiving benefits they are entitled to. The truth is , if they want to know benefits received, the payslips and tax forms that gets submitted contains NI numbers. And those info can be pulled up by HMRC. If HO needs it. So it's basically asking everything on paper.

I just think everyone needs to sit back and read the form properly . It's not as bad. I actually find the documents requrment section more detailed now than before. a lot of people have had their applications rejected cos HO wants some documents that they actually didn't bother putting down as a requirement
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Re: 129 Pages EEA application for, what for

Postby maxmelion » Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:19 am

Jgorf wrote:Form D9H(notice of issue of DIvorce Petition) which a court issued to a petitioner upon reciept of divorce petition clearly states the date divorce petition was submitted to court.

This form will suffice in place of the D8 form if you have it. HO ask for divorce petition as proof that marriage lasted 3 years before commencement of divorce proceedings. So if I disagree that divorce petition must be submitted. (read that section and see why it's being asked for at the first place)

So I see no reason why D8 form should be submitted if you have the official confirmation from court stating date divorce petition was submitted.

WHERE CAN I FIND D8 AS IAM THE RESPONDANT
Can i order it ? I dont want the petition of divorce beacause the background of divorce was soo bad
and i contacred with her lawyer asking why u put down such a bad back ground for reason of divorce he answered bcos we need to put stronge reason to make court agree for divorce
So cant send tht petition with this shock reasons
My married lasted 6 years so how bloody they doubt tht the divorce was take a place before 3 years . No divorce process take over 2 years . How i can prove the date of divorce
starting and im the respondant?


Let's not read the requirements on this new form the other way round.

In my opinion , what they have done is the be very clear on the documents they require to avoid rejecting applications.

The only main difference I have spotted is the section asking to declare public funds. not sure what they can achieve with of I'm being honest . They wouldn't reject an application of someone that is exercising treaty rights and receiving benefits they are entitled to. The truth is , if they want to know benefits received, the payslips and tax forms that gets submitted contains NI numbers. And those info can be pulled up by HMRC. If HO needs it. So it's basically asking everything on paper.

I just think everyone needs to sit back and read the form properly . It's not as bad. I actually find the documents requrment section more detailed now than before. a lot of people have had their applications rejected cos HO wants some documents that they actually didn't bother putting down as a requirement
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