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Did we mess up the Residence Permit because we lied??

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Re: Did we mess up the Residence Permit because we lied??

Post by Casa » Sun Apr 24, 2016 3:43 pm

...as I commented earlier the the thread, the OP's stated love of the Gambian culture, over it appears her own British cultural background, may well go against her when claiming she would be unable to settle with her husband in Gambia. :|
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Re: Did we mess up the Residence Permit because we lied??

Post by avjones » Sun Apr 24, 2016 3:55 pm

Casa wrote:...as I commented earlier the the thread, the OP's stated love of the Gambian culture, over it appears her own British cultural background, may well go against her when claiming she would be unable to settle with her husband in Gambia. :|
That's not particularly relevant for EEA cases, though. It's a UK test. What is the problem is the mounds of evidence they've given to discredit the marriage
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Re: Did we mess up the Residence Permit because we lied??

Post by Obie » Sun Apr 24, 2016 3:56 pm

Casa wrote:...as I commented earlier the the thread, the OP's stated love of the Gambian culture, over it appears her own British cultural background, may well go against her when claiming she would be unable to settle with her husband in Gambia. :|
OP is German
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Re: Did we mess up the Residence Permit because we lied??

Post by Casa » Sun Apr 24, 2016 4:03 pm

Obie wrote:
Casa wrote:...as I commented earlier the the thread, the OP's stated love of the Gambian culture, over it appears her own British cultural background, may well go against her when claiming she would be unable to settle with her husband in Gambia. :|
OP is German
You're correct of course Obie, but the sentiment is the same "I am moving within Gambians for 22 years and you fall in love in the society you move in. I am so used to the culture that I struggle with White men." Hardly strengthens the cause to remain in the UK together. :|
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Re: Did we mess up the Residence Permit because we lied??

Post by avjones » Sun Apr 24, 2016 4:14 pm

Obie wrote: She has been going to Gambia for 22 years, and had 2 unsuccessful marriages, and loves Gambian men.

Nothing unusual.


UKVI are calling many genuine marriages a sham these day.
3 marriages isn't all that common. 3 marriages to men who are not from either the country you started off in, or the country you've chosen to live in, but all from a small country a long way away, that is pretty unusual.

Chuck in all 3 of them apparently needing visas / residence card, and that collection of facts in and of itself does raise eyebrows in immigration terms.

Then, of course, you throw in a proxy marriage. They cause a LOT of trouble. Many proxy marriages are utterly genuine and subsisting. But there is a large scope for abuse - I've come across several cases of people applying for residence cards on the basis of "proxy marriages" in Ghana with EEA nationals who've never even heard of the country, let alone married someone from there.

Throw in illegal entry, lying like mad at interview, and being caught out on at least some of it, and you have (1) immigration trouble, and (2) the *risk* (not the certainty) of criminal law trouble.
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Re: Did we mess up the Residence Permit because we lied??

Post by Petaltop » Sun Apr 24, 2016 6:20 pm

Casa wrote:...as I commented earlier the the thread, the OP's stated love of the Gambian culture, over it appears her own British cultural background, may well go against her when claiming she would be unable to settle with her husband in Gambia. :|
I thought she was saying that her latest husband has already claimed asylum in Germany? As the OP is a German citizen, why not just return to Germany?

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Re: Did we mess up the Residence Permit because we lied??

Post by Petaltop » Sun Apr 24, 2016 6:25 pm

Obie wrote: She has been going to Gambia for 22 years, and had 2 unsuccessful marriages, and loves Gambian men.

Nothing unusual.
Nothing unusual with two failed marriages already to Gambian men! Really? Why do Gambian men keep failing at their marriages?

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Re: Did we mess up the Residence Permit because we lied??

Post by Zimsparta » Fri Jun 10, 2016 9:43 am

He was released on Bail and we had complied with the investigation. We had an appointment to get married and they turned up at venue and cancelled bail and arrested him again.


And yes. Once you go black you never go back.
that's applying to many girls.
I m.still European and I did not give up.My culture but it changed.
And I have a son living here. I m.not going to live in Gambia. But I m also not into bacon butty sandwiches on a morning and football in the pub in a weekend. If all my friends are gambian that's where I meet my man. It's logic. My cousin married men from her own nationality three times. Now she s with husband number 4 . Nobody challenges that!

I can marry as many times as I like. But nobody can pay me enough to get into a marriage for money.

Me and my man are EVERY single free time together..Jr is ALWAYS at home.
I saw Gambians treating their women differently. Even if they needed a visa.
I m happy and I don't wanna lose him.
I was hoping for helpful comments not to get judged and beaten down.
Entering illegal seems to be a bigger crime than rape or murder.
But that's his only crime. Apart from.That he has done nothing wrong.

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Re: Did we mess up the Residence Permit because we lied??

Post by blondesafari » Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:18 pm

And yes. Once you go black you never go back.
that's applying to many girls.
I am sorry, but that is such a dearly beloved comment. Quite frankly, if someone had made that statement about white men, they would have been called out.

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Re: Did we mess up the Residence Permit because we lied??

Post by avjones » Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:23 pm

I agree, it's revolting.
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Re: Did we mess up the Residence Permit because we lied??

Post by noajthan » Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:26 pm

Locking to allow members to breathe and take stock.
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Re: Did we mess up the Residence Permit because we lied??

Post by Obie » Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:28 pm

Context is very important in thsee cases. I am not sure the op's view in that context expresses a deep seated facial animus to any other ethnicity.

She was expressing a personal view and personal preference.

I don't see her putting a particular race or culture down.
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Re: Did we mess up the Residence Permit because we lied??

Post by Casa » Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:38 pm

Sorry Obie, but I agree with Noajthan that this should be locked. You may not be aware that the comment in question has a very controversial and unpleasant sexual meaning prevalent on the internet.
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