EEA4 fast processing times or wishful thinking

Lana23 · Post by **Lana23** » Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:16 am

smallpie wrote:Hi lana,

According to what i know, eea national studying in the UK must have CSI, tho it may not the necessary as such. But its important to have it, especially when their family member is making an application to HO, thru the eea national. Its one of the requirements as HO is concerned.
And as you said, your husband was a student at the time of your application, so reasons why HO acted upon it.

Please check this link for further information http://www.ukcisa.org.uk

Let me know if the link yield any informations for u.

Tnank you smallpie. I realise it now, but in past this was never mentioned, whenever he applied for registration certificate ( I know now they send accompanying letter now to advise of CSI), or applied for uni. I just don't understand how system works. Obviously I cannot get the CSI now and have it backdated so my application is still being refused, and they are telling me to leave country. I got a new job recently, and have started part-time studies, and cannot believe this has to go down because of insurance.

smallpie · Post by **smallpie** » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:01 am

Am sure there is a way out.
Going back to your country is a standard template letter HO uses.
As soon i see a link or how u can go about it, i will update u asap, but better u also see if the experts on this forum can also give valuable advices. See to post into other eea topics etc

smallpie · Post by **smallpie** » Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:16 am

http://www.vwv.co.uk/what-s-happening/p ... -a-student

Lana, kindly see to the link above, if relevant.

joseph83 · Post by **joseph83** » Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:29 pm

Application Sent As Non Eea : 03/07/2015
Received by UKBA : 06/07/2015
Credit Card Charged : 07/07/2015
Biometric Letter Received : 20/07/2015
Biometrics Sent : 21/07/2015
COA Dated: 06/08/2015
COA Received: 10/08/2015
PR Biometric Card Recieved: 02/12/2015

5 months

Wishing all the best to everyone.

smallpie · Post by **smallpie** » Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:39 pm

Congratulations Joseph..
5 months wait not too bad really, a friend of mine got his within 3mnths. I just sent mine last week 25th November , they took money 27th November.. So my waiting game starts. I still got abt 5mnths left on my RC and we have no plans to travel for now.

How long left on your RC, before your PR application?

Daniel2010 · Post by **Daniel2010** » Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:53 pm

analucidi wrote:
bishwo1981 wrote:hello everyone ,
my application for eea4 is now over six months and no response from home office. I contacted them this morning and I received two different answers. first time the call centre staff said my application is under consideration stage and no decision has been made and I called the second time to explain that it has already been six months and why my application is still pending? To my surprise the customer service lady from home office said, if the application is already six months then the application is most likely to be refused and its in the queue to be send out so I should not call home office for the outcome of the application. Now, my question to respected gurus and forum member is , if the application is not decided by six months, does that mean the application is refused as the lady said? if it is to be refused than isn't it better to refuse early within six months so the applicant can follow the necessary step. I am very annoyed by the HO answer and bit worried. any suggestions please
Hello bishwo1981, I have seen so many people waiting for more than six months. But a few days ago my husband told me that Solveit agency advised us to call them if our application is reviewed for more than six months. In fact they say six months and one day is enough, because apparently it is AGAINST EUROPEAN LAW to make applicants wait so long. It was a revelation, since I have witnessed so many cases, some guy had more than 11 months! I can't comment on it, since it wasn't me having this conversation. But I guess it worse investigating. We also have issues with our application and waiting is killing me, I am dreaming to come home and see my family on Christmas. Hope you are feeling better, it's going to be over soon.
Much Love!

Hello bishwo1981

Have you had any updates yet from the Ho??

Have you tried tracking the parcel at all??

teardrops · Post by **teardrops** » Thu Dec 03, 2015 1:31 pm

Lana23 wrote:Hi Everyone,

I've applied for PR at beginning of June, and today received my documents in post. I got refusal for my PR due to lack of Comprehensive Sickness Insurance. I am devastated. My husband (EEA national) came to work to UK in 2008, and then became a student in 2010 - hence why insurance is required. We've never been asked to apply for insurance in past, and only came across it when completing EEA4. Does anyone know what would be the best route to resolve this? Any help is much appreciated.

I applied in June also and was been refused even though I had CIS but my ex wasn't working throughout the five years hence the refusal. You may want to consider applying for another 5 years and try getting your CIS in place A.SA.P.

Lana23 · Post by **Lana23** » Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:01 pm

Sorry to hear that teardrops...Hard times..Even if I re-apply does this mean I will lose the right to work?

cubinec · Post by **cubinec** » Sat Dec 05, 2015 6:43 pm

Applied for PR 08/Jul/2015
COA never come
Document return with approved letter 05/12/2015

Spend a lot of time on this forum. Good luck to every one .

Kokosari · Post by **Kokosari** » Sun Dec 06, 2015 6:39 pm

Hello everyone in the forum. Eneyone applied pr September. Please share your experience.

cubinec · Post by **cubinec** » Mon Dec 07, 2015 3:39 pm

I have PR after retained rights . Do i need shengen to go to Eu, if yes please tell me what docs do i need at embassy to apply for shengen visa. Thank you

lcsnv · Post by **lcsnv** » Mon Dec 07, 2015 3:58 pm

Hello everybody, I applied for PR on 22/Jul/2015
Then I received a letter requesting my Biometrics on 05/Aug/2015
I received a letter confirming the had received my documents on 26/Aug/2015 while saying it could take up to 6 months (is it really that long?) Also it said I could keep working or seeking work as normal during those 6 months (is this letter the one you guys are referring as COA?)
the I received another one 2 weeks later saying exactly the same but with the address of a different office of the Home Office.
I'm still waiting for my documents, so it's been 4 months and a half now, is this normal?
Thank you!

lcsnv · Post by **lcsnv** » Mon Dec 07, 2015 4:06 pm

cubinec wrote:Applied for PR 08/Jul/2015
COA never come
Document return with approved letter 05/12/2015

Spend a lot of time on this forum. Good luck to every one .

Very glad to hear that, I applied just 2 weeks after you did so....fingers crossed

Daniel2010 · Post by **Daniel2010** » Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:10 pm

cubinec wrote:I have PR after retained rights . Do i need shengen to go to Eu, if yes please tell me what docs do i need at embassy to apply for shengen visa. Thank you

Yes !! you would need a schengen visa to travel within the Eu member state however the best place to find the lattest information would be on tls contact who is an agent to french embassy for french visa.

The website is quite explanatory so you would need to update your self on it as the rules keep changing.

Daniel2010 · Post by **Daniel2010** » Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:14 pm

lcsnv wrote:
cubinec wrote:Applied for PR 08/Jul/2015
COA never come
Document return with approved letter 05/12/2015

Spend a lot of time on this forum. Good luck to every one .

Very glad to hear that, I applied just 2 weeks after you did so....fingers crossed

@ lcsnv Welcome to the world of waiting i have applied since 18/05/2015 and am still waiting no idea of when m documents will be returned to me however i call the Ho every week and all they say is they have not put anything yet in the post to me so all i have to keep doing is wait....

I hope am not going to wait forever and ever to get my documents back so for all of us in the same boat good luck...

Daniel2010 · Post by **Daniel2010** » Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:17 pm

bishwo1981 wrote:Nothing Mate Nothing, no news, no update. I am in similar situation like you and I understand your pain. I am still running up and down the stairs like headless chicken. still got that weird look to the postman. nothing has changed. at the moment I am looking after my wife full time and spending some quality time with her.my relationship with my wife has never been this good and I have to thank home office for the delay. our relationship has gone from strength to strength. I am very stressed coz of the PR but happy that I gain my wife's trust. who knows what the future holds? no news is good news, lets see till the end of this month. I have done everything , mp contacted, many complaint letters, pretty much everything except me going to Liverpool in person with a bouquet and chocolates . good luck to everyone

Hello Bishwo 1981 would you kindly update us if there has been any latest development as to you case as we sort of in similar situation so would you share your thoughts??

cubinec · Post by **cubinec** » Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:50 pm

lcsnv wrote:
cubinec wrote:Applied for PR 08/Jul/2015
COA never come
Document return with approved letter 05/12/2015

Spend a lot of time on this forum. Good luck to every one .

Very glad to hear that, I applied just 2 weeks after you did so....fingers crossed

Good luck! Few people get the PR in less then 5 months including me, so prepare get your one early

cubinec · Post by **cubinec** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:19 pm

I have my PR under eu law(had divorced from my eu wife). I want to bring my new non eu wife to uk, which visa I should apply ?? Thanks

Divine25 · Post by **Divine25** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:29 pm

Hi everyone am new to this forum I have already submitted my EEA4 before I came across this forum my issue now is that my partner has been in this country since 2007 and he has been working he became a student 2009 while he was still working paying tax and national insurance, when I did my application I did not add CIS could because I thought it wouldn't matter because he was still working normally while studying does anybody know if it is compulsory that I should ve added the CIS even though he was paying his tax and national insurance contribution. Please I need to know please help help.

smallpie · Post by **smallpie** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:33 pm

Hi divine, i think the cis came into effect by ukba in 2011, for eu nationals students.
Is yr partner still a student now?

Divine25 · Post by **Divine25** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:02 am

smallpie wrote:Hi divine, i think the cis came into effect by ukba in 2011, for eu nationals students.
Is yr partner still a student now?

No he graduated 2013 but while he was a student he was working full time.

Divine25 · Post by **Divine25** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:06 am

smallpie wrote:Hi divine, i think the cis came into effect by ukba in 2011, for eu nationals students.
Is yr partner still a student now?

No he is not he graduated 2013,though while he was a student he was working full time.

ally007 · Post by **ally007** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:07 am

Divine25 wrote:Hi everyone am new to this forum I have already submitted my EEA4 before I came across this forum my issue now is that my partner has been in this country since 2007 and he has been working he became a student 2009 while he was still working paying tax and national insurance, when I did my application I did not add CIS could because I thought it wouldn't matter because he was still working normally while studying does anybody know if it is compulsory that I should ve added the CIS even though he was paying his tax and national insurance contribution. Please I need to know please help help.

Same with... My EEA family was working full time and and also studying from 2010 till 2013 with no cis. We never heard about this CIS thing so now I don't know what to think cos it is already 8weeks we applied together on the same form. Let hope for a good news

smallpie · Post by **smallpie** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:21 am

Honestly guys, its abit confusing when it comes to using the cis thing, for deciding PR application. I know it was implemented in 2011, at somepoint.. And saying for wat av read, if am right tho, eu nationals as a student in uk, must av the cis for the period of them being a student from 2011, in other to make application for their family members in uk. ( and i think the cis shld Cover the period ot being student).

What am not sure about is the situation when the eea nationals is also actively working at same time, as being a student. (paying tax, NI).
Maybe it worth calling HO itself, to get more information on them.

Divine25 · Post by **Divine25** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:29 am

ally007 wrote:
Divine25 wrote:Hi everyone am new to this forum I have already submitted my EEA4 before I came across this forum my issue now is that my partner has been in this country since 2007 and he has been working he became a student 2009 while he was still working paying tax and national insurance, when I did my application I did not add CIS could because I thought it wouldn't matter because he was still working normally while studying does anybody know if it is compulsory that I should ve added the CIS even though he was paying his tax and national insurance contribution. Please I need to know please help help.
Same with... My EEA family was working full time and and also studying from 2010 till 2013 with no cis. We never heard about this CIS thing so now I don't know what to think cos it is already 8weeks we applied together on the same form. Let hope for a good news

I applied on 27/7/2015,i checked and it was signed for and received on the 28th .I did not hear anything and money was collected from my account 5 days later , so I waited till 3wks after, still nothing I write a letter on the 20/8/15 expressing my my concern and they issued the biometrics on the 28/08/2015 received on the 3/09/15 done at the post office same day. Received COA on the 27 /9/15 dated 22/9/15. sorry my partner graduated 2012.I am hoping and praying waiting to hear good news this month.

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