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chaoclive wrote:CSI is not needed for a worker/self-employed person. He won't need the insurance anymore. HOWEVER, you should keep records of this so that you're able to produce evidence that you had CSI during the period of self-sufficiency when you apply for PR (EEA4).

Actually, you don't need to do anything and anything that you do is legitimized by the activities of your husband. E.g. if he is exercising treaty rights (working/studying etc) then you are able to work.

Try to get your national insurance number through as soon as you can. Then you will be able to start work without having to pay emergency tax!

Congrats about the RC and good luck for the future!
C

PS: This is not really the correct place for your question. Next time, you can open your own thread. That way things will be much clearer!

chaoclive wrote:Oh dear. If your husband is a British AND Dutch citizen I think you might be treading on unsafe ground. In theory, you shouldn't have got a residence card as the spouse of a British citizen (unless he has worked in another EEA country, i.e. one of which he is not a citizen and then replied to bring you to the UK under Surinder Singh).

If you want to continue via the EEA route you DO NOT want to let anyone know you are married to a British citizen (unless the conditions noted above apply).

Re: Insurance: Workers do not need insurance and if he is working you don't need CSI either. It's only if he is a student or self-sufficient that you have to have CSI. 'Paying emergency tax' means that you will pay tax at a higher rate if you don't have a national insurance number. This will then be offset by further payments throughout the year, or you may be eligible for a tax refund at the end of the tax year. This information is easily accessible via Google. You probably don't need to ask that question here.


If you are sure that you want to apply as the spouse of a Dutch national (not mentioning his British citizenship, but possibly breaking the law by not acknowledging or lying on question 3.7: "Do they also hold British citizenship?" on the EEA4/PR application form), you will only be able to apply for PR after 5 years.

How did you deal with question 3.7 "Do they also hold British citizenship?" on the EEA2 application form?

I'm not familiar with the UK Immigration Rules, but I think becoming a British citizens after 3 years doesn't apply any more. I have read that it will take 5 years now. Someone else might come and confirm this.

If you want to ask questions about the EEA route only, you can email: EuropeanOperational@homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk.

If you want to ask about British citizenship eligibility, you might want to email: nationalityhelpdesk@homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk. I'd advise caution.

Overall, just be careful re the above. Be careful what you say to the Home Office/Border Control etc.

Careyleeuk1118 wrote:

chaoclive wrote:Oh dear. If your husband is a British AND Dutch citizen I think you might be treading on unsafe ground. In theory, you shouldn't have got a residence card as the spouse of a British citizen (unless he has worked in another EEA country, i.e. one of which he is not a citizen and then replied to bring you to the UK under Surinder Singh).

If you want to continue via the EEA route you DO NOT want to let anyone know you are married to a British citizen (unless the conditions noted above apply).

Re: Insurance: Workers do not need insurance and if he is working you don't need CSI either. It's only if he is a student or self-sufficient that you have to have CSI. 'Paying emergency tax' means that you will pay tax at a higher rate if you don't have a national insurance number. This will then be offset by further payments throughout the year, or you may be eligible for a tax refund at the end of the tax year. This information is easily accessible via Google. You probably don't need to ask that question here.




If you are sure that you want to apply as the spouse of a Dutch national (not mentioning his British citizenship, but possibly breaking the law by not acknowledging or lying on question 3.7: "Do they also hold British citizenship?" on the EEA4/PR application form), you will only be able to apply for PR after 5 years.

How did you deal with question 3.7 "Do they also hold British citizenship?" on the EEA2 application form?

I'm not familiar with the UK Immigration Rules, but I think becoming a British citizens after 3 years doesn't apply any more. I have read that it will take 5 years now. Someone else might come and confirm this.

If you want to ask questions about the EEA route only, you can email: EuropeanOperational@homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk.

If you want to ask about British citizenship eligibility, you might want to email: nationalityhelpdesk@homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk. I'd advise caution.

Overall, just be careful re the above. Be careful what you say to the Home Office/Border Control etc.

I think you are wrong about Surinder Singh. Because it mean the spouse should be a british and working in EU other countries but he/she doesn't has other EU passport.
But my husband has been living, studying and woking in EU and he hold Dutch passport.
I got my EEA2 residence card already and I did let them know my spouse is British too, I show them my husband documents too.

If you are sure I should wait for 5 years to get PR, then I will do it.
Do I have any problem about PR?
And I have rental income, DO I need to pay national insurance fee?
I still don't understand about emerge tax?

Careyleeuk1118 wrote:

Careyleeuk1118 wrote:

SECTION 5 – SURINDER SINGH CASES
You must complete this section if you are applying for a residence card on the basis that your British citizen family member is entitled to be treated as an EEA national for the purposes of your application for a residence card under the judgment in the case of Surinder Singh.
You must also complete either section 6 or 7 to show how your British citizen family member was exercising Treaty rights in another EEA member state.


If the spouse is entitled to be treated as an EEA, but he is a EEA, not a british to be treated as a EEA. It is not argument there.

chaoclive wrote:If they already know that he has British citizenship then you won't have any issues.

If everything else is in order, i.e. your husband is exercising treaty rights and has the proof of CSI as required (for the dates you mention) you will become eligible for PR after 5 years. Again, I'm not sure about applying for British citizenship as the spouse of a British citizen. Hope someone else will help you with that, although I'm sure it's available on other parts of this forum. There is a section on British Citizenship.

I explained emergency tax above. What don't you understand? If you ask a specific question, someone might be able to answer you. A simple search on Google will provide 93,700,000 results. I'm sure you can find all the info you would possibly need there without having to wait for people to reply.

National insurance is not paid on rental profits. Again, a quick Google search will prove this. However, you should know that rental income counts as taxable income. Tax is not the same as national insurance.

I see that you have been able to find the info you require on Surinder Singh, not sure why you can't do that to find out more about applying as the spouse of a British citizen and emergency tax (not that it's a big issue). As long as you are clear that the Home Office are satisfied with your husband's situation, that's fine.

chaoclive wrote:I wouldn't too much and your English is already very good

The problem with the 3 year thing is that you must first achieve ILR (Indefinite leave to remain) before you can apply for naturalization and:

"Note that a person living in the UK as the husband, wife, civil partner or unmarried/same-sex partner of a British citizen or a settled person who either arrives in the UK or applies for permission to stay in the UK on or after 9 July 2012 must live in the UK for 5 years (and not 2 years) to obtain ILR"

Therefore, you will be better to wait for PR after 5 years, especially if you don't want to become a British citizen.

Wish you all the best
C

chaoclive wrote:I would still recommend you only to mention his Dutch nationality in any dealing with the Home Office. If you're not sure about the situation then you must be careful. It's better to know in advance.

You don't need to keep the CSI after he is formally working. Don't worry. That wouldn't be an issue.

You might want to try to recall how you filled in the application form etc. Don't worry though. You won't lose your right to live in the UK as long as he is working there.

chaoclive wrote:What you do is of no interest to the Home Office. The only thing that you need to prove is that your husband is exercising treaty rights in the UK for 5 years continuously.

You know that PR is not really permanent right!? If you stay outside the UK for 2 years you will lose your PR.

chaoclive wrote:National insurance is not paid on rental. However, you should know that rental income counts as taxable income. Tax is not the same as national insurance.

Not sure about anything else. Sorry. Get your husband involved in helping with your information search too!