Mother multiple 10 year visa + GP registration

[Double V]

Hi

** Not sure if this is the right place to post this thread **

My mother had 5 years of multiple visa which expired this January. She used to live with me here in the UK for 6 months and then she would spent 1 week back home and come back to UK. She did this for whole 5 years.
And now I want to apply her 10 years of multiple visa.
But on the form VAF1B it says "if you have received medical treatment" etc ?
Now she is registered with a GP and receives her repeat prescriptions (last 2 years).
If I put "Yes" will it refuse her application ?
I did not pay for any prescription. I was under the impression that prescriptions are free for over 60 years old.
What is the best way forward in this instance ?
I am naturalised British citizen.
If I have to pay for all her prescription how do I do that ? Do I have to contact the GP or is there any other institute ?
Could you please help.
Many thanks

[cs95tdg]

My mother had 5 years of multiple visa which expired this January. She used to live with me here in the UK for 6 months and then she would spent 1 week back home and come back to UK. She did this for whole 5 years.

What type of visa was she on? If she was on a visitor visa then I'm surprised she was able to do this, as it's not meant to be used as a means to reside in the UK. Additionally, visitors are not by default entitled to free NHS healthcare. Further clarity on the type of visa she had would help others comment further.

The topic would be more suitable for the general UK immigration forum.
http://www.immigrationboards.com/genera ... ion-forum/

[vinny]

Topic moved.

[Double V]

My mother had 5 years of multiple visa which expired this January. She used to live with me here in the UK for 6 months and then she would spent 1 week back home and come back to UK. She did this for whole 5 years.

What type of visa was she on? If she was on a visitor visa then I'm surprised she was able to do this, as it's not meant to be used as a means to reside in the UK. Additionally, visitors are not by default entitled to free NHS healthcare. Further clarity on the type of visa she had would help others comment further.

The topic would be more suitable for the general UK immigration forum.
http://www.immigrationboards.com/genera ... ion-forum/

She was visitor visa.
I took her to my GP and gave us a form to fill took photocopy of passport and registered it.

[Double V]

Topic moved.

Thanks vinny.
And sorry for the inconvenience.

[CR001]

My mother had 5 years of multiple visa which expired this January. She used to live with me here in the UK for 6 months and then she would spent 1 week back home and come back to UK. She did this for whole 5 years.

This is will be a challenge for your mothers visa as she has effectively used a visitor visa to live in the UK and her immigration history is likely to be checked when she applies again. She has been very lucky that she has managed to get away with doing this for so long.

Now she is registered with a GP and receives her repeat prescriptions (last 2 years).
If I put "Yes" will it refuse her application ?
I did not pay for any prescription. I was under the impression that prescriptions are free for over 60 years old.

You would have to declare this and since you don't have any proof over the 5 year period that she has paid for her medical care, it could result in refusal as she was not entitled to free NHS or prescriptions. Prescriptions/medication is free to people over 60 who qualify as residents (not visitors). Your mother should have been paying private rates at GP and paying for all her medication.

[Double V]

My mother had 5 years of multiple visa which expired this January. She used to live with me here in the UK for 6 months and then she would spent 1 week back home and come back to UK. She did this for whole 5 years.

This is will be a challenge for your mothers visa as she has effectively used a visitor visa to live in the UK and her immigration history is likely to be checked when she applies again. She has been very lucky that she has managed to get away with doing this for so long.

Now she is registered with a GP and receives her repeat prescriptions (last 2 years).
If I put "Yes" will it refuse her application ?
I did not pay for any prescription. I was under the impression that prescriptions are free for over 60 years old.

You would have to declare this and since you don't have any proof over the 5 year period that she has paid for her medical care, it could result in refusal as she was not entitled to free NHS or prescriptions. Prescriptions/medication is free to people over 60 who qualify as residents (not visitors). Your mother should have been paying private rates at GP and paying for all her medication.

So what can I do now ?
Can I go to GP and ask for total invoice for the prescriptions she had during 2 years. And pay it off and then attach the receipt ?
Will that help ?

And if so, how do I approach the GP. ?
Speak to the doctor or the reception staff. ?

[Wanderer]

My mother had 5 years of multiple visa which expired this January. She used to live with me here in the UK for 6 months and then she would spent 1 week back home and come back to UK. She did this for whole 5 years.

This is will be a challenge for your mothers visa as she has effectively used a visitor visa to live in the UK and her immigration history is likely to be checked when she applies again. She has been very lucky that she has managed to get away with doing this for so long.

Now she is registered with a GP and receives her repeat prescriptions (last 2 years).
If I put "Yes" will it refuse her application ?
I did not pay for any prescription. I was under the impression that prescriptions are free for over 60 years old.

You would have to declare this and since you don't have any proof over the 5 year period that she has paid for her medical care, it could result in refusal as she was not entitled to free NHS or prescriptions. Prescriptions/medication is free to people over 60 who qualify as residents (not visitors). Your mother should have been paying private rates at GP and paying for all her medication.

So what can I do now ?
Can I go to GP and ask for total invoice for the prescriptions she had during 2 years. And pay it off and then attach the receipt ?
Will that help ?

And if so, how do I approach the GP. ?
Speak to the doctor or the reception staff. ?

I doubt the surgery would care to be honest, they most likely don't have the systems in place to refund since they rely on the veracity of the patient as to their entitlement.

I'd be much more worried about the fact she's effectively lived here for five years which is a total no-no as far as the immigration rules are concerned. As things have tightened up now this is sure to be uncovered with a new application.

[Double V]

I think there is a confusion.

My mother did not live here for 5 years.
She was granted 5 years multiple visa. And she used to come and visit me during that period.
She used to stay with me for 6 months which is what is allowed. Then she went back to home country spent few months and then come back to UK for 6 months again.

She was registered with a GP in the last 2 years and received medication.

Do i have to pay for those medications and if so, how do i do it ? where to go to ?

[Casa]

I think there is a confusion.

My mother did not live here for 5 years.
She was granted 5 years multiple visa. And she used to come and visit me during that period.
She used to stay with me for 6 months which is what is allowed. Then she went back to home country spent few months and then come back to UK for 6 months again.

She was registered with a GP in the last 2 years and received medication.

Do i have to pay for those medications and if so, how do i do it ? where to go to ?

The confusion has arisen from your original post where you write:
"She used to live with me here in the UK for 6 months and then she would spent 1 week back home and come back to UK. She did this for whole 5 years."

[Double V]

I think there is a confusion.

My mother did not live here for 5 years.
She was granted 5 years multiple visa. And she used to come and visit me during that period.
She used to stay with me for 6 months which is what is allowed. Then she went back to home country spent few months and then come back to UK for 6 months again.

She was registered with a GP in the last 2 years and received medication.

Do i have to pay for those medications and if so, how do i do it ? where to go to ?

The confusion has arisen from your original post where you write:
"She used to live with me here in the UK for 6 months and then she would spent 1 week back home and come back to UK. She did this for whole 5 years."

Yeah I apologize. I am little worried. That is not what I meant.
She just visited here in those 5 years.

Now could you please advise what to do in this situation ?

[cs95tdg]

Unfortunately I don't know the answer to your question, but have done a search to try and understand what has been officially published on this subject in the past to understand what the actual fees should be both for the healthcare received and prescriptions (I.e. Prior to the latest & most recent news around healthcare for immigrants), however have not found an answer. For the moment am sharing the links I've come across, which you may find worth reading...

http://bma.org.uk/practical-support-at- ... imary-care
http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/england/h ... d_dentists
http://www.nhs.uk/nhsengland/aboutnhsse ... vices.aspx
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new- ... o-nhs-care

Please also be aware of the guidelines that are given to ECO's below...
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... eral-vat01

5. VAT1.5 Frequency and duration of visits

There is no restriction on the number of visits a person may make to the UK nor any requirement that a specified time must elapse between successive visits. However, the Immigration Rules state that the applicant must show that they do not intend to live in the UK for extended periods through frequent and successive visits. An ECO must consider the reason for a series of visits with only brief intervals outside the UK between each visit. The ECO must consider the purpose of the visit against the time elapsed between visits and the duration of previous visits to the UK.

There is no Rule that states a visitor can only remain in the UK for 6 out of any 12 months, but an ECO must examine the pattern and frequency of visits to see that it does not amount to de facto residence...

[Double V]

Unfortunately I don't know the answer to your question, but have done a search to try and understand what has been officially published on this subject in the past to understand what the actual fees should be both for the healthcare received and prescriptions (I.e. Prior to the latest & most recent news around healthcare for immigrants), however have not found an answer. For the moment am sharing the links I've come across, which you may find worth reading...

http://bma.org.uk/practical-support-at- ... imary-care
http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/england/h ... d_dentists
http://www.nhs.uk/nhsengland/aboutnhsse ... vices.aspx
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new- ... o-nhs-care

Please also be aware of the guidelines that are given to ECO's below...
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... eral-vat01

5. VAT1.5 Frequency and duration of visits

There is no restriction on the number of visits a person may make to the UK nor any requirement that a specified time must elapse between successive visits. However, the Immigration Rules state that the applicant must show that they do not intend to live in the UK for extended periods through frequent and successive visits. An ECO must consider the reason for a series of visits with only brief intervals outside the UK between each visit. The ECO must consider the purpose of the visit against the time elapsed between visits and the duration of previous visits to the UK.

There is no Rule that states a visitor can only remain in the UK for 6 out of any 12 months, but an ECO must examine the pattern and frequency of visits to see that it does not amount to de facto residence...

Thanks for sharing this.
Much appreciated.

Is there anything else I should consider as I am now applying her 10 years multi visit visa. Or shall I go with 5 years ?

[Wanderer]

Unfortunately I don't know the answer to your question, but have done a search to try and understand what has been officially published on this subject in the past to understand what the actual fees should be both for the healthcare received and prescriptions (I.e. Prior to the latest & most recent news around healthcare for immigrants), however have not found an answer. For the moment am sharing the links I've come across, which you may find worth reading...

http://bma.org.uk/practical-support-at- ... imary-care
http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/england/h ... d_dentists
http://www.nhs.uk/nhsengland/aboutnhsse ... vices.aspx
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new- ... o-nhs-care

Please also be aware of the guidelines that are given to ECO's below...
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... eral-vat01

5. VAT1.5 Frequency and duration of visits


There is no restriction on the number of visits a person may make to the UK nor any requirement that a specified time must elapse between successive visits. However, the Immigration Rules state that the applicant must show that they do not intend to live in the UK for extended periods through frequent and successive visits. An ECO must consider the reason for a series of visits with only brief intervals outside the UK between each visit. The ECO must consider the purpose of the visit against the time elapsed between visits and the duration of previous visits to the UK.

There is no Rule that states a visitor can only remain in the UK for 6 out of any 12 months, but an ECO must examine the pattern and frequency of visits to see that it does not amount to de facto residence...

Thanks for sharing this.
Much appreciated.

Is there anything else I should consider as I am now applying her 10 years multi visit visa. Or shall I go with 5 years ?

I'd go for a standard 6 months and not risk losing the 5/10 year fee, I feel sure they will check given the current climate.

[manci]

from 24 April 2015 the visitor rules change and it may no longer be possible to apply for a longer than 6 months standard visitor visa - read the new Appendix V to the immigration rules:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... _Rules.pdf

[Casa]

This article may make the changes regarding visitor visas easier to understand.
https://www.freemovement.org.uk/new-imm ... d-kingdom/

[Double V]

from 24 April 2015 the visitor rules change and it may no longer be possible to apply for a longer than 6 months standard visitor visa - read the new Appendix V to the immigration rules:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... _Rules.pdf

Hi

This is for family visit visa. Is it same as standard visa ?

She had a 5 year multiple visit visa. And now want to apply for 10 year multiple visit visa.
You are saying we will no longer be allowed to do that ?

[Double V]

This article may make the changes regarding visitor visas easier to understand.
https://www.freemovement.org.uk/new-imm ... d-kingdom/

Thanks for the share.
So i cannot apply for my mother for 5 or 10 year multiple visa ?

[cs95tdg]

Looking at the info shared by Manci & Casa, it doesn't look like she'll be able to unless she applies before the 24th of April. which is this Friday.

After reading the notes under Appendix V, I wasn't entirely sure whether the maximum stay mentioned there equated to the maximum length of a visit or whether it was the visa validity period (which in the past has ranged from 6 months to 10 years). But I'm sure this will be cleared up when the new information is published by UKBA on Friday.

[Double V]

So the Appendix V states the maximum length of stay for a visit visa holder is 6 months.
Which has always been the same.

So we can apply for 10 years.

My mother applied for 6 months family visit visa in 2005 then for 1 year in 2007, then 2 years in 2008, then for 5 years in 2010 which expired this year. And now I am thinking to apply her for 10 years visit visa.
She comes here for 6 months without having to reapplying visit visa and pay fee.

Are the new rules saying we cannot do that ?

I cannot find this information.

[manci]

Wait for guidance to be published on or after 24 April

[vinny]

If the fees are still active, then the options should be available.

[Double V]

If the fees are still active, then the options should be available.

Thanks.

[Double V]

Wait for guidance to be published on or after 24 April

Yeah I will keep a close eye on that.

[Double V]

Just read the whole new document.

It looks like people can still apply for 5year, 10 year visit visa. (they can only stay max of 6 months).

Which has been same.
So who here said they are cancelling this.