Staying for 5 months on family visitor visa

[mramay]

Dear All,

My father got family visitor visa earlier this month. He came here 2 days ago. On arrival he was questioned about the stay he didn't lie and gave rough figure that is 5 months but he said I will go back before that. Actually he got the ticket in emergency and found date of Oct which is 2 days before the expiry of visa. They took him to the room and did not release him until they talked to me over the phone twice. They asked all same questions which they usually ask when I am sponsoring him. They release him after giving the assurance that he will go back before time. Now it was 2.5 hours inconvenience and tension. Is this ok by law? Will their be any obligations on his future applications if he will leave in early September?

Very tensed and need advise.

Regards

[CR001]

They can question any person entering the UK to establish if they are genuine visitors etc, that is what they are there to do.

It should not have any impact on your father as long as he leaves the UK before his visa expires or after 2 months if he so wishes.

[mramay]

Thank you very much. They were asking again and again why he got ticket covering 5 months out of 6. And they release him after 2.5 hours. I want him to stay for 5 months but if that can impact on his future application then of course I will re book the ticket.

[CR001]

He should be fine as long as he leaves the UK before his visa expires.

[mramay]

Thank you very much. A tension releaved

[CR001]

Just a point for you to remember, your father is not entitled to the free NHS services, GP or medication etc. Make sure if he does see your GP and gets medication, that you pay private patient rates for these services as this could have an impact on future applications if not paid for.

[Double V]

Just a point for you to remember, your father is not entitled to the free NHS services, GP or medication etc. Make sure if he does see your GP and gets medication, that you pay private patient rates for these services as this could have an impact on future applications if not paid for.

How will this impact on future application ? How will they find out that the person is/has been taking free NHS. ?

[CR001]

@DoubleV - HO can check the systems in the UK if they wish to. If you say 'no' to the medical care question and they check and confirm the applicant has used it, it is deception. If you say 'yes' and don't have any evidence you have paid for the service, it is using a service you are not entitled to.

If a visitor has used free NHS to which they are not entitled and does not declare or pay for the service, it can impact future applications negatively. With all the publicity on NHS Tourism, it is a fairly big issue.

Your own thread is extensive and this has been advised to you already. Please do not start another long discussion in someone else thread.

[Double V]

@DoubleV - HO can check the systems in the UK if they wish to. If you say 'no' to the medical care question and they check and confirm the applicant has used it, it is deception. If you say 'yes' and don't have any evidence you have paid for the service, it is using a service you are not entitled to.

If a visitor has used free NHS to which they are not entitled and does not declare or pay for the service, it can impact future applications negatively. With all the publicity on NHS Tourism, it is a fairly big issue.

Your own thread is extensive and this has been advised to you already. Please do not start another long discussion in someone else thread.

This is what I am trying to ask.
How often do they carry out checks on person who has good immigration history.
Also do you know ho do they carry out these checks ? Do they check the NHS database ? or Spine ?

What if you don't show up in NHS ?

[Double V]

Also I read anybody is entitlement to A&E for free. They can also see GP but then pay.
What if you were seen in A&E. How do you prove that you didnt have to pay, They don't charge you there.

[Casa]

Only the initial treatment in Accident & Emergency is free (A&E). If the patient requires an overnight stay (or more) charges apply.
So you want to know how the Home Office (UKVI) check whether treatment has been received? By information sharing with the NHS. All Government departments, HMRC, UKVI, DWP, NHS have access to shared information held on official records. Here's the link if you're still unsure:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... ndix_4.pdf

[Double V]

Only the initial treatment in Accident & Emergency is free (A&E). If the patient requires an overnight stay (or more) charges apply.
So you want to know how the Home Office (UKVI) check whether treatment has been received? By information sharing with the NHS. All Government departments, HMRC, UKVI, DWP, NHS have access to shared information held on official records. Here's the link if you're still unsure:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... ndix_4.pdf

Thanks for the link and info.
An other thing. What we have never given this leaflet. And we only used GP to get medicines.
Is information still shared ?
When did this sharing come into effect.

[Casa]

The Guardian newspaper previously reported that the Home Office was given access to the NHS records of more than 6,900 people between 2010 and 2013. The leaflet in the link I posted was dated August 2014, but sharing of information was obviously in place before then. Not receiving a leaflet doesn't exempt a patient from paying the NHS charges due. As GP surgeries are part of the NHS they can pass information in the same manner as hospitals in order to recover costs.

[Double V]

The Guardian newspaper previously reported that the Home Office was given access to the NHS records of more than 6,900 people between 2010 and 2013. The leaflet in the link I posted was dated August 2014, but sharing of information was obviously in place before then. Not receiving a leaflet doesn't exempt a patient from paying the NHS charges due. As GP surgeries are part of the NHS they can pass information in the same manner as hospitals in order to recover costs.

So GPs are linked with NHS database ?

[Casa]

Yes they are. Apologies to the original poster mramay who seems to have had his thread high jacked!

[mramay]

@DoubleV - HO can check the systems in the UK if they wish to. If you say 'no' to the medical care question and they check and confirm the applicant has used it, it is deception. If you say 'yes' and don't have any evidence you have paid for the service, it is using a service you are not entitled to.

If a visitor has used free NHS to which they are not entitled and does not declare or pay for the service, it can impact future applications negatively. With all the publicity on NHS Tourism, it is a fairly big issue.

Your own thread is extensive and this has been advised to you already. Please do not start another long discussion in someone else thread.

Thanks CR001 I have paid all my parents treatment last year as well and this year is not an exception. Their time is the thing that matters

[CR001]

Then if you have all the receipts as proof, all should be fine. Enjoy your visit from your family.

[vignezh]

Travel insurance springs to mind!

If it is an emergency, of course attending A&E is free, any additional treatment you may require will need to be paid. This is what Travel insurances are for! They cost roughly £50 for a 4 month stay, but quite useful in those unforeseen circumstances. Moreover, if you have travel insurance, the visa officer will have more confidence that you will not be a liability for NHS.

Although, seeing a GP for minor ailments are not covered!

[prasad394]

Hi All,

Would getting an eye check up done at Boots constitute a medical treatement ? My wife is on a visitor visa and has been having some eye trouble for the past two days. If she gets a check up now, should we report it in the application at a later stage ? We will pay for this checkup and not through NHS.

Regards,
Prasad

[CR001]

Hi All,

Would getting an eye check up done at Boots constitute a medical treatement ? My wife is on a visitor visa and has been having some eye trouble for the past two days. If she gets a check up now, should we report it in the application at a later stage ? We will pay for this checkup and not through NHS.

Regards,
Prasad

Boots is not part of the NHS, so if you pay for the check, there is no need to mention it but make sure you keep your receipt.