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Re: Discretionary leave vary? - what to do

Post by smir » Sat Feb 01, 2014 7:42 pm

Two solicitors In London

They say you are playing with your life, and if you apply 100% you will get FLR FP rejected and I might not even get appeal as home office will invalid your file and if not in appeal they will throw away case and become illegal

They say apply Business visa and pass time and after 10 year finish differ to ILR


Amber_ wrote:Sorry, you are apply for FLR(FP) first, are you not? Who gave you this advice about invalidating your case?

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Re: Discretionary leave vary? - what to do

Post by Amber » Sat Feb 01, 2014 7:46 pm

I don't understand what they mean by invalidate the case. Are these people actually solicitors? If you think you'll be more successful applying as an entrepreneur then that's your choice. If you're paying for legal advice then follow that.
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Re: Discretionary leave vary? - what to do

Post by smir » Sat Feb 01, 2014 8:41 pm

No Amber not at all..

I asked you because I dont trust them.. because they speak language of pound noting else..

I just wanted to get proper info from your side.. as i doubted them because they only give info when we give them money that also confusing..like they confused me that it will become invalid...no appeal and refusal..

Ok

I will go for FLR (FP). IA for me my wife and baby..

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Re: Discretionary leave vary? - what to do

Post by Zee ali » Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:10 pm

smir wrote:No Amber not at all..

I asked you because I dont trust them.. because they speak language of pound noting else..

I just wanted to get proper info from your side.. as i doubted them because they only give info when we give them money that also confusing..like they confused me that it will become invalid...no appeal and refusal..

Ok

I will go for FLR (FP). IA for me my wife and baby..
@Smir Brother
Please Please Please don't ask this question again and again. How many times we need to tell u all about this.
U can't change your fate. Allah is great. Trust on him.
Those 2 solicitors wants your money for business visa.
Last time i am telling u and please don't PM me. Benefits others as well to post on forum. Do not repeat same question.
U apply flr fp visa.
Even me not meeting the flr fp criteria. But still i am applying and hoping for best outcome. Flr fp visa is a discretionary visa. it's UKBA and court discretion to give us visa or not.
Its all about luck .
Someone i know spent 6 months on waiting time on flro (applied april 2013). He varied his application and got ILR.
Someone i read in this forum left with 3 months to complete 10 years applied flro. HO refused him in 2 months time.
Again all about LUCK LUCK LUCK.
More u ask with different people more u get confuse.
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Re: Discretionary leave vary? - what to do

Post by smir » Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:59 pm

Thanks Brother

Got cleared...

InshAllah .. will do it ..

and thanks for help and suggestions too..

Zee ali wrote:
smir wrote:No Amber not at all..

I asked you because I dont trust them.. because they speak language of pound noting else..

I just wanted to get proper info from your side.. as i doubted them because they only give info when we give them money that also confusing..like they confused me that it will become invalid...no appeal and refusal..

Ok

I will go for FLR (FP). IA for me my wife and baby..
@Smir Brother
Please Please Please don't ask this question again and again. How many times we need to tell u all about this.
U can't change your fate. Allah is great. Trust on him.
Those 2 solicitors wants your money for business visa.
Last time i am telling u and please don't PM me. Benefits others as well to post on forum. Do not repeat same question.
U apply flr fp visa.
Even me not meeting the flr fp criteria. But still i am applying and hoping for best outcome. Flr fp visa is a discretionary visa. it's UKBA and court discretion to give us visa or not.
Its all about luck .
Someone i know spent 6 months on waiting time on flro (applied april 2013). He varied his application and got ILR.
Someone i read in this forum left with 3 months to complete 10 years applied flro. HO refused him in 2 months time.
Again all about LUCK LUCK LUCK.
More u ask with different people more u get confuse.

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Re: Discretionary leave vary? - what to do

Post by Zee ali » Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:01 pm

@Smir brother
keep me updating with your application and out come as i will apply flr fp in May 14.
Any new question u r most welcome to ask.
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Re: Discretionary leave vary? - what to do

Post by smir » Mon Feb 03, 2014 2:48 pm

Jazakalkah

Btother I will keep in march inshallah


Tell me

Amber or Zee

do we need to file application ourselves or through a lawyer ?

And have keep any special docs or covering letter or just send application with passports ?
Zee ali wrote:@Smir brother
keep me updating with your application and out come as i will apply flr fp in May 14.
Any new question u r most welcome to ask.

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Re: Discretionary leave vary? - what to do

Post by Zee ali » Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:50 am

smir wrote:Jazakalkah

Btother I will keep in march inshallah


Tell me

Amber or Zee

do we need to file application ourselves or through a lawyer ?

And have keep any special docs or covering letter or just send application with passports ?
Zee ali wrote:@Smir brother
keep me updating with your application and out come as i will apply flr fp in May 14.
Any new question u r most welcome to ask.
@smir
It's better if u apply through a lawyer. Lawyer know how to draft the covering letter and add immigration paras according to your circumstances.
one lawyer quoted me the price of 500 to 600 pounds for application
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Re: Discretionary leave vary? - what to do

Post by smir » Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:04 am

Thanks Brother..

I met 2-3 lawyers.. finalising soon..

But they are quoting huge amount.. Pound 1500 :evil: plus I have to add home office fees.. for three 1444 Pounds .. plus they said if appeal comes we will charge another 600 pound and when filing application for ILR 600 again.. plus homeoffice fees :cry:



And more thing.. may be its amazing fact.. one Solicitor said.. We will not send passport of you or any of your family members.. but just application with photographs.. (only one solicitor said this.. other two said.. give your life in uk test now as you will not see your passport till you get ILR.)

Comments please Zee brother


Zee ali wrote:
smir wrote:Jazakalkah

Btother I will keep in march inshallah


Tell me

Amber or Zee

do we need to file application ourselves or through a lawyer ?

And have keep any special docs or covering letter or just send application with passports ?
Zee ali wrote:@Smir brother
keep me updating with your application and out come as i will apply flr fp in May 14.
Any new question u r most welcome to ask.
@smir
It's better if u apply through a lawyer. Lawyer know how to draft the covering letter and add immigration paras according to your circumstances.
one lawyer quoted me the price of 500 to 600 pounds for application

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Re: Discretionary leave vary? - what to do

Post by Zee ali » Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:58 am

@ smir
Don't tell me that u didn't pass your LIUK test yet.
u r dreaming to apply for ilr in 6 months times and still not yet pass LIUK.
u can't book LIUK without passport or BRP card.
i wish i could slap u on back of your head :D . Just kidding
but seriously u really made me angry.
Book your LIUK test and pass it ASAP.
which city u live in???
My lawyer is charging me 600 for initial application than 1000 for appeal. that's what he told to me.
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Re: Discretionary leave vary? - what to do

Post by smir » Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:24 am

You can slap me as brother no worry


I have already booked LIUT and giving in coming week :P

But is that solicitor right that he will not send our passport but only application and photos ?

And inbox for me for cheap and good solicitor so that I too could save money please:)
Zee ali wrote:@ smir
Don't tell me that u didn't pass your LIUK test yet.
u r dreaming to apply for ilr in 6 months times and still not yet pass LIUK.
u can't book LIUK without passport or BRP card.
i wish i could slap u on back of your head :D . Just kidding
but seriously u really made me angry.
Book your LIUK test and pass it ASAP.
which city u live in???
My lawyer is charging me 600 for initial application than 1000 for appeal. that's what he told to me.

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Re: Discretionary leave vary? - what to do

Post by smir » Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:57 am

London
smir wrote:You can slap me as brother no worry


I have already booked LIUT and giving in coming week :P

But is that solicitor right that he will not send our passport but only application and photos ?

And inbox for me for cheap and good solicitor so that I too could save money please:)
Zee ali wrote:@ smir
Don't tell me that u didn't pass your LIUK test yet.
u r dreaming to apply for ilr in 6 months times and still not yet pass LIUK.
u can't book LIUK without passport or BRP card.
i wish i could slap u on back of your head :D . Just kidding
but seriously u really made me angry.
Book your LIUK test and pass it ASAP.
which city u live in???
My lawyer is charging me 600 for initial application than 1000 for appeal. that's what he told to me.

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Re: Discretionary leave vary? - what to do

Post by smir » Thu Feb 13, 2014 10:48 pm

tHANKS BROHTER


LIUKT

done and passed :lol:
Zee ali wrote:@ smir
Don't tell me that u didn't pass your LIUK test yet.
u r dreaming to apply for ilr in 6 months times and still not yet pass LIUK.
u can't book LIUK without passport or BRP card.
i wish i could slap u on back of your head :D . Just kidding
but seriously u really made me angry.
Book your LIUK test and pass it ASAP.
which city u live in???
My lawyer is charging me 600 for initial application than 1000 for appeal. that's what he told to me.

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Re: Discretionary leave vary? - what to do

Post by Zee ali » Fri Feb 14, 2014 3:29 am

Congrats bro
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Re: Discretionary leave vary? - what to do

Post by silentsmile » Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:42 am

Hi smir zee amber!!!!! I hve same scenario like smir have but I never had psw I spent 9 years 3 months in uk tier 4 Alhamdulillah but now im going masters and my project and one unit left to do I dont know uni will give me extension cas letter or not im so much stress and dont know what to doo kuch bataooooo bhaioooooooo kia karooooo ..m hawa kharrab hey ... lol my visa expire 30 march 2014 itd tier 4 visa but now I dont know what should I do Either go for venture capital firm enter.visa or either go any application im sure uni will not offer me cas.now according to my time scale I hvnt completed my five years on degree level. So but still picture not clear. So smir pleaze update me what you doing and can we talk on phone its really helps I have my three dependants too.




jazakAllah for reading pleaze advice me to find thr way how can I spend my 9months to complete 10 years

asap plz I hve 5 weeks left

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Re: Discretionary leave vary? - what to do

Post by silentsmile » Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:53 am

Hi smir zee amber!!!!! I hve same scenario like smir have but I never had psw I spent 9 years 3 months in uk tier 4 Alhamdulillah but now im going masters and my project and one unit left to do I dont know uni will give me extension cas letter or not im so much stress and dont know what to doo kuch bataooooo bhaioooooooo kia karooooo ..m hawa kharrab hey ... lol my visa expire 30 march 2014 itd tier 4 visa but now I dont know what should I do Either go for venture capital firm enter.visa or either go any application im sure uni will not offer me cas.now according to my time scale I hvnt completed my five years on degree level. So but still picture not clear. So smir pleaze update me what you doing and can we talk on phone its really helps I have my three dependants too.




jazakAllah for reading pleaze advice me to find thr way how can I spend my 9months to complete 10 years

asap plz I hve 5 weeks left

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Re: Discretionary leave vary? - what to do

Post by smir » Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:28 pm

Assalam brother..

Have a look at this..

isnt it good ??

https://www.gov.uk/long-residence


READ THIS BROTHER

Exceptions
You may be able to extend your stay for another 2 years (known as ‘leave to remain’) even if you don’t meet all the eligibility requirements.

Fees

THEY ARE CLEARLY STATING THAT IF ONE DONT MEET REQUIREMENT HE OR SHE CAN APPLY TO EXTEND


Zee ali wrote:Congrats bro

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Re: Discretionary leave vary? - what to do

Post by silentsmile » Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:36 pm

Samir what was your case I forgot could you please tell me what is and where its mention that I can apply long resd. At this stage

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Re: Discretionary leave vary? - what to do

Post by smir » Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:38 pm

CLICK LINK BROTHER
faraz3430 wrote:Samir what was your case I forgot could you please tell me what is and where its mention that I can apply long resd. At this stage

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Re: Discretionary leave vary? - what to do

Post by silentsmile » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:00 am

Smir bro I can see I can extend visa but I cant find how and wwhat and which way on pdf file it's saying 10 year law fully

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Re: Discretionary leave vary? - what to do

Post by mike2903 » Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:10 am

Amber_ wrote:Sorry, you are apply for FLR(FP) first, are you not? Who gave you this advice about invalidating your case?
hi amber
I have appleid for IDL on basis of 10 years long residence student visa BUT refused because of gaps and been given a descretionary leave on basis of family private live as my 4 children born in uk (now 11,9,7,5 years). the first 3 years descretionary leave will end december 2014 and i am wondor if i can apply for IDL straight with out extending my DL for another 3 years (is that possible).
having decided to apply for IDL i still have one gap of 31 days in 2005 is that ok or could give me refusal?
please i need your advice as SOON as POSSIBLE.
Thank you

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Re: Discretionary leave vary? - what to do

Post by Zee ali » Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:29 am

mike2903 wrote:
Amber_ wrote:Sorry, you are apply for FLR(FP) first, are you not? Who gave you this advice about invalidating your case?
hi amber
I have appleid for IDL on basis of 10 years long residence student visa BUT refused because of gaps and been given a descretionary leave on basis of family private live as my 4 children born in uk (now 11,9,7,5 years). the first 3 years descretionary leave will end december 2014 and i am wondor if i can apply for IDL straight with out extending my DL for another 3 years (is that possible).
having decided to apply for IDL i still have one gap of 31 days in 2005 is that ok or could give me refusal?
please i need your advice as SOON as POSSIBLE.
Thank you
hi

First of all what is IDL?????

If u meant Indefinite Leave than it's bit confusing Use ILR (Indefinite Leave to Remain) for future.

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Re: Discretionary leave vary? - what to do

Post by mike2903 » Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:49 am

hi. yes i meant indefinite leave to remain sorry. so what do u think about the case please?
thanks

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Re: Discretionary leave vary? - what to do

Post by Zee ali » Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:28 pm

hi

Your information provided is not enough u need to tell us more about your immigration history.

When u were refused ILR???


Tell us about gaps period and when they occurred?????
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Re: Discretionary leave vary? - what to do

Post by mike2903 » Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:47 pm

hi
they stated that i have gaps as following:
1- 14/05/2002 to 22/05/2002
2- 11/11/2002 to 22/004/2003
3- 24/12/2003 to 23/01/2004
4- 7/05/2005 to 5/06/2005
though i am not convienced that this is true as i did not go out of the country and most of these gaps the passports were with them> anyway now i was thinking to reapply considering that since 23/01/2004 i only have 1 gap of 30 days for my 10 years starting to count from 2004. BUT i heared that as i gone through descretionary leave you have to finish 6 years and can not jump before that; the other thing is 30 days gap considered gap (i did not go out of the country and it is only they as for some thing and provide it for them).
thanks

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