Family life as parent of a birtish child application refuse

Home office said i fail witout resesaon able exuse not to giv dem the DNA test.my question wat of if i hav a court order to declear me as the parent of the child will the home office accept that.cos i dont know how to get the DNA test from my child since the mother will not allow me.reply me guys

No, not likely. Anyone can get a court order to say 'I am xy childs father' and anyone's name can be put on a birth certificate. That is why HO asks for DNA to prove without question that you are the child's biological father. Lots of people have tried to get visas based on children that are not actually their children.

So as the child mother has refuse to allow me to get the DNA test from my daugther cos she wan me to be deported from the nigeria so dat she could hav the baby all too her self.so dere is notin i can do to win my appeal.pls guys i need ur reponed as am confuss

So as the child mother has refuse to allow me to get the DNA test from my daugther cos she wan me to be deported from the nigeria so dat she could hav the baby all too her self.so dere is notin i can do to win my appeal.pls guys i need ur reponed as am confuss

strontiumdog74 wrote:I assume that the refusal for DNA test is based on using a blood sample rather than the actual DNA itself?

Have you investigated if there can be a dna test based on hair sample or saliva?

I am no expert on this issue, I am just thinking out loud.

http://www.homednadirect.co.uk/dna-news ... blood.html

Have you looked into the option of DNA without doing blood. There are many ways DNA can be tested.

Godwin111 wrote:So as the child mother has refuse to allow me to get the DNA test from my daugther cos she wan me to be deported from the nigeria so dat she could hav the baby all too her self.so dere is notin i can do to win my appeal.pls guys i need ur reponed as am confuss

The advice so far from everyone has been pretty consistent. I don't understand why you are confused.

Your rejection for your application was that you did not provide a DNA test to prove you are the father. I assume that you made an application and it was either rejected based on the evidence you submitted or you were asked to provide a DNA test and failed to do so. An appeal is a lengthy process from what I understand and as you did not provide the DNA test it is unlikely to be successful as you did not comply with what was required, although you haven't provided details of the wording of your refusal. I am assuming that UKVI wrote to you stating that you have been refused your visa and they would have to state the grounds for that refusal. You have indicated that you have been told you need a DNA test for proof but you don't state at what stage. I find it hard to believe that your refusal does not give the grounds on which it was refused?

Assuming that there are no grounds for an appeal, ie UKVI did not do something wrong then you need to reapply for the visa again.

The only way a further appeal or reapplication will be successful is if you provide the DNA test that the UKVI want as proof of paternity as stipulated in whatever form during this original process.

Getting the mother compelled by a court of UK law to provide a DNA test to prove paternity for a visa application is probably outside what I would expect this forum to be able to advise on as it is generally a point of uk law relating to an issue outside a visa.

In my opinion as I have stated twice so far, you need to seek formal legal advice about getting a court to compel her to get a DNA test for your child. Only a legal expert can advise you if this is possible and how much it will cost and what will be required.

When does your existing visa run out? If you overstay this may also cause issues, although I don't know what overstaying whilst waiting on an appeal process means.

She wan let me do any DNA test for my daugther.and i support my daugther Financially.and i see my daugther regualy.but she wan allow me to do any kind of DNA test for my baby.i dont really know wat to giv th judge in my appeal.shw sid she can follow to the appeal hearing to tesity that am the parent.pls guys

Any reason why you cannot just cut a small bit of the child hair? Make a bit of effort and use your imagination. You won't succeed if you do not provide DNA evidence.

You seem to be repeating the same questions and we're all repeating the answers without getting anywhere.

Godwin111 wrote:She wan let me do any DNA test for my daugther.and i support my daugther Financially.and i see my daugther regualy.but she wan allow me to do any kind of DNA test for my baby.i dont really know wat to giv th judge in my appeal.shw sid she can follow to the appeal hearing to tesity that am the parent.pls guys

Did you read the replies??

On what grounds are you going to appeal? What did UKVI fail to do in assessing your application, those will be the grounds for your appeal?

I apply befor my visa run out.she was 8months pregant wen i made the application.so after 2months home office wrote that for dem to consider my matter.i should send dem my daugther birth cerficate and DNA test to prove am the father and a letter from my baby health vistor that i hav access rigth to my baby.i gav dem all dey ask for expect the DNA test.dey den refuse my application cos i did not giv me reseasonable exuse not to submit a DNA test.and i was giving the giving of Appeal

CR001 wrote:Any reason why you cannot just cut a small bit of the child hair? Make a bit of effort and use your imagination. You won't succeed if you do not provide DNA evidence.

I just did a google search for approved DNA testers for UKVI, something I am assuming the OP could have done himself and this is the list:

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/paternity-t ... boratories

Reading the details on just one of the sites the samples need to be taken by an independent third party and cannot just be provided by the OP himself (for obvious reasons). Details can be found here as an example:

http://dadcheckgold.com/our-dna-testing ... ollection/

My lawyer did the grounds of appeal for me.my lawyer said i only need my parnter in court to tell the judge that am the parent of my child and that i play active role in my child upbringin.

OK. So you have to prove that the child is yours. How will you do that when you're not able to submit a DNA test, a birth certificate won't be sufficient evidence and the court won't accept your ex-partner's word that you are the biological father?

Godwin111 wrote:I apply befor my visa run out.she was 8months pregant wen i made the application.so after 2months home office wrote that for dem to consider my matter.i should send dem my daugther birth cerficate and DNA test to prove am the father and a letter from my baby health vistor that i hav access rigth to my baby.i gav dem all dey ask for expect the DNA test.dey den refuse my application cos i did not giv me reseasonable exuse not to submit a DNA test.and i was giving the giving of Appeal

I don't see that you have any grounds for appeal, they told you what evidence you were required to submit and you failed to do so. CR001 or Casa please tell me if I am wrong but I can't see that an appeal would be successful based on the info provided so far.

In that case you need to re-apply for a visa again.

You will therefore be asked to provide the same thing again.

You therefore need to either get your ex to agree to a DNA test by an approved centre or you need to get her compelled to do so by the court.

I think I am back to.... you need to get legal advice on doing this?

Godwin111 wrote:My lawyer did the grounds of appeal for me.my lawyer said i only need my parnter in court to tell the judge that am the parent of my child and that i play active role in my child upbringin.

If your lawyer has told you this why do you even need our advice?

I assume you will be paying him on a no win no fee basis?

And she is currently 5 months pregnant for me just.we are expectin our second baby.

@strontiumdog74 I concur with your view.

@Godwin111 Your partner's pregnancy will change nothing apart from the fact that you would need two DNA tests. Are you waiting for members on the forum to agree with your lawyer? I for one, am unable to do that as I don't believe for one moment that a court will simply take your ex-partner's word on the paternity.

Godwin111 wrote:And she is currently 5 months pregnant for me just.we are expectin our second baby.

I thought you said you broke up when your partner had your first baby?

I'm sorry but your story has more holes than swiss cheese and I'm starting to suspect you're just trolling.

You say you applied for parent visa when she was still pregnant, I have no experience but I find this hard to accept. Surely the forms will ask you for details of the child you're applying for, you know like name, place of birth and Date of Birth.

Assuming that I'm wrong and you can and did apply then, I assume your speed to apply was due to your student visa running out soon. . So how are you not overstaying?

You state that you financially support the child and see it regularly but then state she won't let you see the child. I assume you are independently wealthy as you are able to support a child, yourself and retain legal counsel whilst being on a student visa which restricts your working.

You state that you split with her when the baby was born, it's now 9 months but she's also 5 months pregnant with another child of yours.

How did you pass the English requirements to study in the UK when your use of the English language is so poor?

Whoopi Goldberg has no problem with DNA and she is of Sierra Leone heritage.

Why do you spell Sierra Leone differently every time?
even with atrocious language skills (for a student) you should be able to spell your near-neighbouring country.

And why can you not make up your mind where the mother actually is?

OK, as I hate not knowing things and like to get things squared away I searched for the FLR FP form:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... _05-16.pdf

You clearly need to add a lot of information about the child, I don't see how you can possibly do that prior to the child being born.

It also seems that you need to provide a valid IELTS or proof that your course was taught in English, I won't comment any further on that issue for fear it's too aggressive but I think everyone knows what I mean.

On that note unless you can actually clear up the issues and tell a genuine story that doesn't have so many holes in it then I am giving up on this thread. On the plus I have learnt some things about FLR FP so not a total waste of time.

Hello guys remember i posted my case here some months ago and i was advice to get legal advice.so i did it.lawyer said i should tak my child mother to court for me to again access to my child.that if access rigth to my child is granted to me i could use that in my appeal.

Posts merged.

No need for multiple posts.

Godwin111 wrote:Hello guys remember i posted my case here some months ago and i was advice to get legal advice.so i did it.lawyer said i should tak my child mother to court for me to again access to my child.that if access rigth to my child is granted to me i could use that in my appeal.

Pls guys helo me with ur answers