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michaelknight
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Marriage to a non EU questions

Post by michaelknight » Sat Apr 26, 2014 12:32 pm

Hello,

I have been reading through the boards and find it mostly confusing. I would really really appreciate if someone could answer some questions or shed some light regarding my situation.

I am planning to marry a Ukrainian girl this year and we are unsure of the best route. Currently my salary is 17,500 but I work in sales and earn £23,000 plus with proof of earnings. I also have an apartment in Spain that I earn £2000 a year from rentals. I also have a mortgage here but I'm worried my current salary is still under the threshold required. I could ask my boss for a raise or switch jobs to earn more than 18,600 but do they need to see 6 months to a year of this increased salary?

What is the best route in my circumstances, to apply for a spousal visa within UK, to marry in Ukraine and then apply to visit uk or marry in Europe and try the Surinder route? I could move to Spain but the only jobs available it seems are English teaching jobs and my Ukrainian partner may find it difficult to find work.

How long does this process normally take? Can my wife study in the UK once she has a residency ? Does she have to pay international tuition fees or Britcit fees? What countries can she visit with her permit visa? What is the current success rate of these applications and is Theresa May likely to lose this battle and they lower the earnings?

Lastly, can my partners family visit us in the UK easily once she is married?

I am sorry for so many questions, I really appreciate any replies.

Michael

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Re: Marriage to a non EU questions

Post by michaelknight » Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:27 pm

Thread titled should be "Marriage to a Non EU citizen"!

Hopefully receive some replies.. :)

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Re: Marriage to a non EU questions

Post by Wanderer » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:13 pm

Study yes, home fees after ILR (five years) otherwise international fees (20/30k for a proper uni, not the dodgy ones most on here end up in trouble with).

Countries to visit, same as before but can get schengen visa for free if travelling with you, technically not needed but unless you want to argue with the airline staff and border officials all along and risk not being able to boards or being bounced the way best to get it formally.

If relationship is genuine and criteria fulfilled 100% success, it's not a war.

Her parents will have same chance of visa as before more or less, about 33% rejection rate from Kiev last time I looked, probably more now because of fear they could be trying to settle in view of current situation...

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Re: Marriage to a non EU questions

Post by michaelknight » Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:06 pm

Hello, thanks for the reply. So the student fees remain the same until they become a European/British citizen.

So my wife could make a shengen for free if traveling with me, does this apply for other countries around the world?

Well, you say its not a war but i believe the home office started a war on families with their outrageous immigration policies. The reason I was asking these questions about the application and my circumstances is because I earn less than 18,600 on paper but with combined income I earn way over but not sure of their policies regarding salaried/non-salaried income.

So once we are married her parents have the exact same application process as if they were just visiting UK on a tourist visa?

Michael

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Re: Marriage to a non EU questions

Post by Wanderer » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:22 pm

1. Student fees - until free of immigration control. i.e. not Naturalised neccesarily just permanent resident (ILR)

2. Other countries have their own rules, marriage to you makes no difference.

3. Immigration is hard because of all the abusers and people taking the piss, just look on here for all the dodgy attempts to get into the UK, that's why Mr. UK taxpayer has to pay more now - to police it. In 2000 or so it was all free and hardly any conditions. Take a look in the Student sub-forum, all txt-spk and poor English, and the Entrepreneur sub-forum for people hoping to start a business, most of them would struggle to start a jigsaw...

4. Yes, but check that, family visit visa might apply, though to honest there's little difference as far as I can see, can be rejected for same reasons...
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Re: Marriage to a non EU questions

Post by askmeplz82 » Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:08 pm

Take a look in the Student sub-forum, all txt-spk and poor English, and the Entrepreneur sub-forum for people hoping to start a business, most of them would struggle to start a jigsaw...


Everyone looking for immigration help are on the same boat

Are you indigenous British ?
UK Student Visa : 04/2004 - 09/2009
EEA Residence Card : 07/2010 - 7/2015
EU Settled Status: Confirmed on 16th July 2019
Naturalisation : Confirmed on 02nd Oct 2020
Passport Approval : 21st Feb 2021

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Re: Marriage to a non EU questions

Post by Wanderer » Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:54 pm

askmeplz82 wrote: Take a look in the Student sub-forum, all txt-spk and poor English, and the Entrepreneur sub-forum for people hoping to start a business, most of them would struggle to start a jigsaw...


Everyone looking for immigration help are on the same boat

Are you indigenous British ?
Irish.
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Re: Marriage to a non EU questions

Post by flozo64 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:05 am

Wanderer wrote: Immigration is hard because of all the abusers and people taking the piss, just look on here for all the dodgy attempts to get into the UK,

This is absolute rubbish, regardless of those applying the government strengthened the rules due to the increasing anti immigration feeling among many brits and the desire to appear to be acting upon this by crunching numbers. These kids of opinions are offensive to many on this site, we are all in the same boat in seeking immigration advice.
Flr(fp) application.

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Re: Marriage to a non EU questions

Post by flozo64 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:12 am

For ss you need to exercise your treaty rights by working 12+ weeks and showing as much evidence of integration as proof. The schengen visa applies to mainland Europe, it's free and fairly easy to travel in the eu with your partner.

Gaining a visit visa for your inlaws is much like getting anyone else to visit, they need to demonstrate ties to their country, ie jobs savings etc.

You need to be married to bring your partner back through ss.

I strongly advise you to join two Facebook groups if you haven't already.
1. "i love my foreign spouse "
2. "Eea visa... Eu free movement "

The second is something along those lines, both have members in the same situation and there are documents, success stories etc.
Flr(fp) application.

Applied - 29/07-14
HO Received - 31/07/14
Biometrics done - 12/08/14
Decision - Granted - 10/10/2014

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Re: Marriage to a non EU questions

Post by Wanderer » Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:46 pm

flozo64 wrote:
Wanderer wrote: Immigration is hard because of all the abusers and people taking the piss, just look on here for all the dodgy attempts to get into the UK,

This is absolute rubbish, regardless of those applying the government strengthened the rules due to the increasing anti immigration feeling among many brits and the desire to appear to be acting upon this by crunching numbers. These kids of opinions are offensive to many on this site, we are all in the same boat in seeking immigration advice.
All I can say (apart from the fact you are wrong) is that you must be easily offended and omniscient to be able to speak for others.
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Re: Marriage to a non EU questions

Post by Wanderer » Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:47 pm

flozo64 wrote:For ss you need to exercise your treaty rights by working 12+ weeks and showing as much evidence of integration as proof. The schengen visa applies to mainland Europe, it's free and fairly easy to travel in the eu with your partner.

Gaining a visit visa for your inlaws is much like getting anyone else to visit, they need to demonstrate ties to their country, ie jobs savings etc.

You need to be married to bring your partner back through ss.

I strongly advise you to join two Facebook groups if you haven't already.
1. "i love my foreign spouse "
2. "Eea visa... Eu free movement "

The second is something along those lines, both have members in the same situation and there are documents, success stories etc.
12 weeks won't cut it now - need to be looking at a year plus and an evidenced 'shift of centre of life'.
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Re: Marriage to a non EU questions

Post by Amber » Mon Apr 28, 2014 1:59 pm

Please show respect for each other!
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Re: Marriage to a non EU questions

Post by Amber » Sun May 04, 2014 6:18 am

If you apply for spouse leave to enter under Cat B, you've got to show:

1. You've actually earned the Financial Requirement gross in the last 12 months and

2. Your current salary meets or exceeds the Financial Requirement as per the employer letter

If so, you should be ok.
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