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non EU citizen with a British national half-brother

Post by veronika » Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:38 pm

Hi,

I'm a non EU national. My half brother was born in England and has lived there all his life. I visited him last summer on a visit visa. Now he is ready to sponsor my coming to England for much longer. I don't know what type of visa I should apply for so that I can live & work in England?

Do I have any chance to be granted any other type of visa rather than the visit one, on the grounds of having a half-brother there, able to support and help me?

I'd appreciate an early reply.

All the best,
Vera

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Re: non EU citizen with a British national half-brother

Post by Chess » Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:54 am

veronika wrote:Hi,

I'm a non EU national. My half brother was born in England and has lived there all his life. I visited him last summer on a visit visa. Now he is ready to sponsor my coming to England for much longer. I don't know what type of visa I should apply for so that I can live & work in England?

Do I have any chance to be granted any other type of visa rather than the visit one, on the grounds of having a half-brother there, able to support and help me?

I'd appreciate an early reply.

All the best,
Vera
Not possible to sponsor you on a long term visa.

Depending on your skills you may qualify for a work permit - however, the process can be very lengthy.

the first starting point should be

www.workingintheuk.gov.uk
Where there is a will there is a way.

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Post by John » Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:56 am

veronika, on what basis is your half-brother British? Simply because he was born here?

The nationality of your parents? His parents? (Obviously one will be common to both of you.)

Can you explain a bit more?
John

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Post by veronika » Wed Dec 07, 2005 7:34 pm

John wrote:veronika, on what basis is your half-brother British? Simply because he was born here?

The nationality of your parents? His parents? (Obviously one will be common to both of you.)

Can you explain a bit more?
Hi John,

Thanx for replying in such a short notice.

Well, my half-brother is my father's son from his first marriage. At the time my half-brother was born our dad was living in England and was married to my half-brother's mother. She still lives in Englans, but the two of us are not related.

Anyway, our father got back toSerbia, got married to my mum here and that's how I was born. I was brought up here, whereas he has lived in the UK all his life.

Now, we both are childless. I'm not married and except for our father I don't have any close relatives here.My brother has a good job in the UK and is ready to support my coming. I'm an EFL secondary school teacher, but I don't think my degree I got in Serbia will be enough to ask for a work peremit.

I liked England very much and I'd really like to live and work there.

Please John, any ideas for me?

Greetings from Serbia,
Vera

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Post by John » Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:35 pm

Vera, I wish my view was more positive but in the circumstances I can only refer you to the good advice given to you by Chess in his posting above. He has already mentioned the workingintheUK website.

That is, I don't see that your family connection is any real help to you are regards getting a visa, except to the limited extent that it might assist you passing the accommodation test if your half-brother is willing to put you up initially when you come to the UK.

But first you need to find someone wishing to apply for a Work Permit for you. The EFL angle is the obvious one to pursue. But even then you may be up against the "mother tongue" problem .... schools or colleges teaching EFL here in the UK tend to have a preference towards employing those where English is their mother tongue. (My wife works at the UK's largest specialist college ... Brasshouse Language Centre ... here in Birmingham ... nearly 30 different languages are taught there, including English. My wife is their Thai language tutor.)
John

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Post by veronika » Wed Dec 07, 2005 11:16 pm

John wrote:Vera, I wish my view was more positive but in the circumstances I can only refer you to the good advice given to you by Chess in his posting above. He has already mentioned the workingintheUK website.

That is, I don't see that your family connection is any real help to you are regards getting a visa, except to the limited extent that it might assist you passing the accommodation test if your half-brother is willing to put you up initially when you come to the UK.

But first you need to find someone wishing to apply for a Work Permit for you. The EFL angle is the obvious one to pursue. But even then you may be up against the "mother tongue" problem .... schools or colleges teaching EFL here in the UK tend to have a preference towards employing those where English is their mother tongue. (My wife works at the UK's largest specialist college ... Brasshouse Language Centre ... herin Birmingham ... nearly 30 different languages are taught there, including English. My wife is their Thai language tutor.)

Dear John,

Tha last straw or loop in the law is something I've read which gives hope:

"If you are over 18 and have a parent settled in the UK, or if you are a sister, brother, aunt, uncle or any other relative of a person settled in the UK, you may qualify if you meet the conditions listed in the previous paragraph and you are living alone in the most exceptional compassionate circumstances. "
Let's say I can officially prove I don't own any property, or our dad denounced me (officially, for the record), I'm out of work,and I don't have any living member or my family here closer than my half-brother in England- can that be of any help?

Hope to hear from you soon,
Vera

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Post by John » Thu Dec 08, 2005 7:38 am

Vera, earlier you posted :-
I'm an EFL secondary school teacher
-: but now you say :-
Let's say I can officially prove I don't own any property, or our dad denounced me (officially, for the record), I'm out of work,and I don't have any living member or my family here closer than my half-brother in England- can that be of any help?
Why am I thinking this is a hypothetical question?

I really don't see any hope in pursuing that idea. It is not going to work.
John

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Post by veronika » Fri Dec 09, 2005 11:50 am

I really don't see any hope in pursuing that idea. It is not going to work.[/quote]

Dear John,

One more question before I throw a towel, please.

Our father has never got devorced from my half-brother's mother. They got married in England in July 1964. Although he's lived, worked and retired here in Serbia, does he has any legal rights to claim British citizenship on the grounds of that marriage?

Hope to hear from you soon.

Have a nice day,
Vera

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Post by John » Fri Dec 09, 2005 12:54 pm

Simply no!

If the marriage was subsisting ... which clearly it is not .... they are not acting as a normal man and wife .... he might be able to get a spouse visa and then move to the UK ... and after three years in the UK he would have the right to apply for naturalisation as British.

But as none of that applies, sorry, there is no ability for him to go down that route.

And even if he did ... it would not help your situation. You are clearly not a minor child!

Now if you were to find a British husband !!!!! Or indeed any EEA Citizen living in the UK !!!!! But that would be extreme action on your part ... no one should get married merely to ease a visa situation.
John

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Post by veronika » Sat Dec 10, 2005 7:53 pm

John wrote:Simply no!

If the marriage was subsisting ... which clearly it is not .... they are not acting as a normal man and wife .... he might be able to get a spouse visa and then move to the UK ... and after three years in the UK he would have the right to apply for naturalisation as British.

But as none of that applies, sorry, there is no ability for him to go down that route.

And even if he did ... it would not help your situation. You are clearly not a minor child!

Now if you were to find a British husband !!!!! Or indeed any EEA Citizen living in the UK !!!!! But that would be extreme action on your part ... no one should get married merely to ease a visa situation.
Hi John,

I absolutely agree...

Well, I hope I'll get there in the end...
In the meantime, if I have any further questions I'll get in touch with you.

Thank you for all your replies.

Marry X-mas and Happy New Year!

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