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plaese Lola56uk

Postby banats » Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:28 pm

Yes Please lola56 if you can give some information about tribunal cause I am looking forward to my appeal against the ho refusal. Thanks : :!:
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ilr!!

Postby vix789 » Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:54 pm

okay... i got a call from my solicitor today... and yes after praying so much.. i actually received good news... waiting for my ilr...

in my application i've not submitted a "life in the UKtest" nor did i file in a personal statement. The only statement done was by the solicitor..

after reading good news on this forum, it always gave me hope... thankyou all for sharing your stories... and no my journey hasn't paused here yet.. i will be coming and discussing my dads case as that is still pending!!!

i really hope that you ALL get your ilrs... really feel for all of you!!!
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Re: ilr!!

Postby lola56uk » Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:17 pm

vix789 wrote:okay... i got a call from my solicitor today... and yes after praying so much.. i actually received good news... waiting for my ilr...

in my application i've not submitted a "life in the UKtest" nor did i file in a personal statement. The only statement done was by the solicitor..

after reading good news on this forum, it always gave me hope... thankyou all for sharing your stories... and no my journey hasn't paused here yet.. i will be coming and discussing my dads case as that is still pending!!!

i really hope that you ALL get your ilrs... really feel for all of you!!!


Congrats vix789 - Well done. One down for you and one more to go. As hopeful2 always says now you can go earn yourself some well needed money. and enjoy a holiday sometime in the future.
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Re: plaese Lola56uk

Postby lola56uk » Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:03 pm

PART 1
I have been visiting Taylor house tribunal over the last 2 weeks. So I am summarising part one of my findings so far.
As you know AIT deals with a whole variety of application from Visa to stay and those in detention. As it’s an open court, practically anyone is allowed to observe. Therefore for those interested it’s in your pleasure you observe at least 3-4 cases before your actual hearing.
Each case begins with a 2 letter code – this indicates what type of case the court will deal with, I am listing so you go to the most appropriate case.
Case beginning
OA – OUT OF COUNTRY APPLICATION
*IA – IN COUNTRY APPLICATION (LONG RESIDENCY, STUDENT VISA ETC) *
AA – Asylum cases
DC – person in detention (depending on certain crime)
DA – person in detention (depending on certain crime)
VA – VISITING VISA APPLICATION
HC – BAIL APPLICATION (DEPENDING ON SUITATION)
TY - BAIL APPLICATION (DEPENDING ON SUITATION)
PE - BAIL APPLICATION (DEPENDING ON SUITATION)

For serious cases e.g. deportation; you will get one or more judges present in the room

• Please speak slowly and clearly
• Don’t piss the judge off by wandering off when he asks any question, GO STRATIGHT TO THE POINT.
• Most cases last an hour average; unless extenuating circumstances where the judge will postpone the case, to later in the day.
• The judge usually makes a decision on the day; but due to paperwork and co it takes 2-3 weeks to filter down to an individual.
• Your barrister will do most of the talking; quoting various cases etc. and further points where the Home Office have got it all wrong.
• I attended mostly cases beginning with IA; you should be able to tell by the name what the case is most likely to be. ( well the Clark mentioned if Indian / Pakistan orientated name mostly likely residence through marriage , if African (Nigeria/Ghanaian) name most likely application for residence through Long Residence or 14 year rule).
Please do not take offense to me mentioning any particular country name; only for illustration purposes. Part 2

As I have notes and it takes a while to write this things; I will only write if I get 2-3 people requesting the info.
Part 2 will contain useful extracts on how barristers try to convince the judges (but will only provide if I get 2-3 request);
• For example using free-standing rule as mentioned by the Strasbourg court to convince the judge.
• Aggregation of years to fight private life rule.
• Accepting signed documents to establish additional prove.
Hopeful this is useful for those that need it.

Again congrats to all brothers and sisters; those that have succeeded in this long journey and hope you make good use of your ILR.
GUYS LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION THUS SO FAR.
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Re: OUTSTANDING APPLICATIONS & REFUSALS/APPEALS

Postby lola56uk » Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:07 pm

Hopeful2 wrote:
GodGives wrote:
vix789 wrote:
GodGives wrote:Why don't you go to the solicitors office. You need to act quick. You could have posted the documents directly to Ukba. Do you have copies. If so do a next day delivery


you are right. i'll speak to my dad. we tried getting him to go to another solicitor but he feels trapped!! well the solicitor is around a 100miles away. we actually trusted him and his attitude is really difficult to handle now. we've also asked the solicitor for a copy of our files and he just has an excuse every time...

i started believeing that every solicitor is like this? =/

<<thank you for the esponse>>

The solicitor sounds dodgy to me. As I said before send the documents directly to Ukba. If not they would refuse if you don't



I agree, don't let anyone or anything hold you back. This isn't the time to be afraid - there will be obstacles in your way and you have to fight them. The only person who matters is your dad and this his LAST chance to get it right so do whatever you can to make it happen. I wish you guys good luck with everything. You can complain to the Law Society about your solicitor if you feel the need to. Actually I recommend that you do - that should stop ruthless lawyers from taking advantage of vulnerable applicants!!


VIX789 - SEND COPIES TO HOME OFFICE DIRECTLY PLEASE;WITH A COVER NOTE THAT YOUR LEGAL TEAM WILL SEND A COPY WITH ANY ADDITIONAL MATERIAL TO SUPPORT IT.
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Postby missmykid » Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:30 pm

Congrats vix789.did yu get documents first or brp card.got the card first dated 25 may.shldi ring them to check if they sent them or wait.
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Postby Hopeful2 » Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:09 pm

lola56uk wrote:
Hopeful2 wrote:Another week commences, hopefully more ILRs for us this week!!!


Amen - Hopefully all those still waiting get their ILR this week , including you Hopeful2, yours is long overdue. .
Any one interested in some useful tribunal info.



Thanks Lola56uk - I hope I get good news soon. I qualify both under 14 years and long residence (22 years) with paperwork to support each year I have been here....
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Re: ilr!!

Postby Hopeful2 » Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:15 pm

vix789 wrote:okay... i got a call from my solicitor today... and yes after praying so much.. i actually received good news... waiting for my ilr...

in my application i've not submitted a "life in the UKtest" nor did i file in a personal statement. The only statement done was by the solicitor..

after reading good news on this forum, it always gave me hope... thankyou all for sharing your stories... and no my journey hasn't paused here yet.. i will be coming and discussing my dads case as that is still pending!!!

i really hope that you ALL get your ilrs... really feel for all of you!!!



See - each week I wish us all good luck and good things happen :D. CONGRATULATIONS to you vix789, I am so happy for you - now you can earn some money and support your dad whilst he is awaiting a decision re his application. I wish you all the best for the future and am glad that you will be visiting this page to update us on your dad's progress.
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Re: ilr!!

Postby glory5050 » Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:29 pm

vix789 wrote:okay... i got a call from my solicitor today... and yes after praying so much.. i actually received good news... waiting for my ilr...

in my application i've not submitted a "life in the UKtest" nor did i file in a personal statement. The only statement done was by the solicitor..

after reading good news on this forum, it always gave me hope... thankyou all for sharing your stories... and no my journey hasn't paused here yet.. i will be coming and discussing my dads case as that is still pending!!!

i really hope that you ALL get your ilrs... really feel for all of you!!!


Congratulation to you vix789....am so glad and please regarding the goodnews. Well done....hooefully your Dad's ilr will be out soon.
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Thanks lola56uk

Postby banats » Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:49 am

Many thanks for your information and please keep us informed about appeals and we all will pray for you.
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Re: REFUSAL TO GRANT LEAVE TO REMAIN

Postby Peter77 » Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:33 pm

lola56uk wrote:
Peter77 wrote:
lola56uk wrote:
Peter77 wrote:Dear members

I have been visiting this forum for sometime and have found it very informative and helpful. thank you.
I applied for indefinite leave to remain on the 6/7/ 2012 on the basis of 14 yr long residence.
l arrived in the UK beginning of June 1999 got a six months visitors visa, which l extended with a student visa valid till March 03. When it expired l never renewed it and has been on an expired visa ever since.
The reasons of refusal:
1. l have not provided enough documentary evidence that substantiate my claim of residing in the UK continuously for the last 14 years. Further more l did not provide documentary evidence which covers year 20xx, 20xx and 20xx.
l had provided them with bank statements, bills, hospital letters for which l did not realise l had missed the 3 years mentioned above. and thats all l had.

2.It is noted as well that you were convicted of failing to provide a specimen for analysis(driving or attempting to drive) and driving in accordance with your licence in - - 2008. disqualified and fine 300 plus 200 costs. and the offence wont be considered spent until august 2013.
Taking the above into consideration you therefore cannot meet the requirements of Paragraph 276B(1)(a)(b) and (111) of HC395 (as amended)
I had refused to provide specimen because l wasnt driving the car but in charge of it sitting in the passenger side.
If l appeal what kind of evidence are they after?? is there any thing l can do to prove l have been here all this time?????
What about my conviction? will be considered spent mid august.
Appeal deadline end of may.
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Peter - I am almost in the same similar situation as you only my drink driving conviction is spent. How long were you disqualified for ? As they have being told/advised not to take into consideration any offence within certain period ( 12 months custodial sentence).
please Appeal - as the judge might be against the HO, especially if you show him evidence that you have been in the UK during the stipulated time; this is what I am doing. Have 2-3 close relative write a sworn letter stating you were here.
All this will shed light on the case for the judge.
Be calm and relax; things happen for a reason.


Thank you for the response, I was banned for 18 months but reduced to 14 months when l did the Driving course. fined 300 pounds. u mentioned something about custodial sentence can u say more please.??? my offence would be spent in august.

I will appeal, lm in the process of obtaining bank statement from closed accounts l had at that time. Waiting for letters from my x employer and inland revenue. the problem with bank statements is they can only do 6 six years only. Also requested for my medical records from my GP today. Now my main worry is l wont be able to gather documentary evidence in time coz l have only a week before deadline to submit my appeal, GP documents will take at least 2 weeks. l l hand in my appeal end of may when can l expect my hearing to be held suppose the appeal goes through. Do l have to hand in my appeal with evidence by the way l have a lawyer.
Got relatives who can witness even my partner l live with.


That's good you have a lawyer !!!!- unfortunately he won't be able to go with you to the hearing but will arrange a barrister for you !!!!

Secondly - you do not need to submit any proof with your Appeal form ; this can be provided at a later date. It takes 4 weeks from submission to process plus another 4 weeks to give you a date , so you will be attending a hearing between 8-10 weeks from submission.

Attend hearing and go and listen to how the judges listen to the Homeoffice , what tactics the home office use and how to answer or behave in front of the judge.

You do not need bank statement ; a simple letter that you had a bank account with the bank will do; these can usually be written by the counter staff and should state the date period you had the account open.

Be calm and relax

UPDATE: Appeal submitted end of May, no payment made though. will wait for them to send me a paying-in slip or instructions.
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Re: REFUSAL TO GRANT LEAVE TO REMAIN

Postby lola56uk » Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:08 pm

Peter77 wrote:
lola56uk wrote:
Peter77 wrote:
lola56uk wrote:
Peter77 wrote:

Be calm and relax

UPDATE: Appeal submitted end of May, no payment made though. will wait for them to send me a paying-in slip or instructions.


That's good news Peter. Please try and visits AIT beforehand to have a feel. look at my previous post to guide you on what cases you should listen to.

Payment takes a while to go through. You would think they would take payment with the application but I guess its a way to see if application is correct before payment go through.

I will write up part 2 of my appeal guide for those of us that have appeals underway.
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Re: REFUSAL TO GRANT LEAVE TO REMAIN

Postby Peter77 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:37 am

lola56uk wrote:
Peter77 wrote:
lola56uk wrote:
Peter77 wrote:
lola56uk wrote:
Peter77 wrote:

Be calm and relax

UPDATE: Appeal submitted end of May, no payment made though. will wait for them to send me a paying-in slip or instructions.


That's good news Peter. Please try and visits AIT beforehand to have a feel. look at my previous post to guide you on what cases you should listen to.

Payment takes a while to go through. You would think they would take payment with the application but I guess its a way to see if application is correct before payment go through.

I will write up part 2 of my appeal guide for those of us that have appeals underway.

Thanks. would u have an idea where are AIT held in west midlands. birmingham
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Updating Timelines

Postby Hopeful2 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:09 am

Hello GodGives, hope all is well with you - I don't recall seeing a timeline for you - do you mind updating it so we can so we have an idea about your application etc.
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Re: REFUSAL TO GRANT LEAVE TO REMAIN

Postby Hopeful2 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:12 am

Peter77 wrote:
lola56uk wrote:
Peter77 wrote:
lola56uk wrote:
Peter77 wrote:
lola56uk wrote:
Peter77 wrote:

Be calm and relax

UPDATE: Appeal submitted end of May, no payment made though. will wait for them to send me a paying-in slip or instructions.


That's good news Peter. Please try and visits AIT beforehand to have a feel. look at my previous post to guide you on what cases you should listen to.

Payment takes a while to go through. You would think they would take payment with the application but I guess its a way to see if application is correct before payment go through.

I will write up part 2 of my appeal guide for those of us that have appeals underway.

Thanks. would u have an idea where are AIT held in west midlands. birmingham




Hello Peter77 I just googled and came up with this - hope it's helpful: http://www.justice.gov.uk/downloads/tri ... ham-ts.pdf
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Postby pink nails » Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:28 pm

Oh how I wish i knew about this board years ago. i would have saved myself so much headache.

I've been reading some of the posts here and find my situation very similar to everyones except in my case i didnt apply before the end of the 14 year rule. i didnt know the date was chaning until a few weeks before and i didnt have the money to pay to send my application, I could hardly even afford the Life in the Uk test. Also I was a about 6 weeks short of 14 years and thought this would work against me.

anyway I applied at the end of September with as much documentation and information as I could provide, i still had my old passport I came here with and I had certificates from school and college plus wage slips from the places i've worked.

I received the acknowledgement letter a few days later. My letter to have my Biometrics done came in the begining of December (about 10days after it was dated), i had it done within a couple of days.

I've been waiting ever since. i wrote a letter to the UKBA in April asking about any progress but have so far not got a reply.

to say im down on my luck would be an understatement, I'm not working, cant afford my rent so have to move in with a friend.

reading the stories on here make me regret which is something I try to avoid but I regret not doing anything possible to get the money intime.

I hope it works out quickly for all of us and we can get on with out lives. I am especially keeping an eye on your case Hopeful2, as our dates are similar.
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Postby Hopeful2 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:13 pm

pink nails wrote:Oh how I wish i knew about this board years ago. i would have saved myself so much headache.

I've been reading some of the posts here and find my situation very similar to everyones except in my case i didnt apply before the end of the 14 year rule. i didnt know the date was chaning until a few weeks before and i didnt have the money to pay to send my application, I could hardly even afford the Life in the Uk test. Also I was a about 6 weeks short of 14 years and thought this would work against me.

anyway I applied at the end of September with as much documentation and information as I could provide, i still had my old passport I came here with and I had certificates from school and college plus wage slips from the places i've worked.

I received the acknowledgement letter a few days later. My letter to have my Biometrics done came in the begining of December (about 10days after it was dated), i had it done within a couple of days.

I've been waiting ever since. i wrote a letter to the UKBA in April asking about any progress but have so far not got a reply.

to say im down on my luck would be an understatement, I'm not working, cant afford my rent so have to move in with a friend.

reading the stories on here make me regret which is something I try to avoid but I regret not doing anything possible to get the money intime.

I hope it works out quickly for all of us and we can get on with out lives. I am especially keeping an eye on your case Hopeful2, as our dates are similar.



Hello pink nails, welcome to the forum. I am so happy that despite everything you took the chance and applied in September, two months after the cut off date - well done!! And the fact that you received acknowledgement and a letter for your biometrics is very positive. See my timeline below:

Hopeful2: applied for ILR under 14 year rule on 6 July
response received dated 23 July
1 October-invalid application
Biometrics on 20 November
(more than 14years = 21 years)

I originally applied on 6 July but my application was returned in October (without my documentation) because I hadn't signed and dated one section and had left out my passport number. My biometrics were taken in November and I have been waiting since. I wish you all the best and hope you are granted ILR soon.

All of us waiting are in the same boat - we are not working and do not have any income coming in so your case is not isolated. I originally applied 11 months ago and am still waiting so .....
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Postby pink nails » Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:47 pm

Thanks Hopeful2 for replying and for the encouraging words.

I will be thinking of u. fingers cross we are near the end of our very long journey.
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Postby Hopeful2 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:11 pm

pink nails wrote:Thanks Hopeful2 for replying and for the encouraging words.

I will be thinking of u. fingers cross we are near the end of our very long journey.



pink nails I agree our journey is almost at an end - like I have said so many times on this forum, no situation is permanent and we will all receive responses from HO re our applications at some point - hopefully sooner rather than later.
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Postby vix789 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:33 pm

lola56uk wrote:
Congrats vix789 - Well done. One down for you and one more to go. As hopeful2 always says now you can go earn yourself some well needed money. and enjoy a holiday sometime in the future.


thank you lola... i cant wait.. i need to get applying.. i shall be applying for a provisional aswel as soon as i get my brp and learn how to drive.. felt so useless at times but its like my hands were tied

Hopeful2 wrote:
I agree, don't let anyone or anything hold you back. This isn't the time to be afraid - there will be obstacles in your way and you have to fight them. The only person who matters is your dad and this his LAST chance to get it right so do whatever you can to make it happen. I wish you guys good luck with everything. You can complain to the Law Society about your solicitor if you feel the need to. Actually I recommend that you do - that should stop ruthless lawyers from taking advantage of vulnerable applicants!!


we considered another lawyer... hes not even willing to take the case.. he said you will get a reply within a few days =/

lola56uk wrote:
VIX789 - SEND COPIES TO HOME OFFICE DIRECTLY PLEASE;WITH A COVER NOTE THAT YOUR LEGAL TEAM WILL SEND A COPY WITH ANY ADDITIONAL MATERIAL TO SUPPORT IT.


i have no copies... whatever we have... the solicitors got it

missmykid wrote:Congrats vix789.did yu get documents first or brp card.got the card first dated 25 may.shldi ring them to check if they sent them or wait.


my soliciors recieved the letter saying that your clients documents are attached .. bla bla... and your client's brp card be with the client within 7 days... if not then email them.. they've provided an email address.. (but my solicitor didn't say that i have recieved ALL your documents in post.. i only spoke to him briefly)

well your documents are really important... should try and contact them since it has been more than 10 days since theyve sent the brp..
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