GESE Grade 5

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Postby Lamilamere » Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:38 am

I was granted ILR the same day 31/10/13 in Croydon UKBA. It was PEO service. I will apply for citizenship next week. Regards
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Postby tulip11 » Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:47 pm

Hi Yes, this certificate is valid for ILR applications.

You are correct, it is not on the Secure English Language Test (SELT) list, but the Home Office have said that the exam for this purpose does NOT NEED to be on this list - only that the SELT list one of three options that can be used. Please see the three options at the bottom of page 2 of this Home Office document: http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... hip/kol-uk

Option 2 on this document shows that an exam is acceptable if it is Ofqual approved. Trinity's GESE grade 5 is Oqual approved: http://register.ofqual.gov.uk/Qualifica ... 500_1934_X

Therefore it is acceptable.

I hope this is helpful. Best regards, Eddie.

I am posting this message which i got from English exam centre i asked them about SELT list so they sent me this now it's much more cleared so in this case trinity test is acceptable.
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UKBA acceptance confirmation

Postby suds19 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:16 pm

We now have official confirmation from UKBA of GESE Grade 5 acceptance (Earlier the acceptance confirmation was from test provider (Trinity and English Exam Centre) only)

From: "Knowledge Of Life Policy Queries" <KnowledgeOfLifePolicyQueries@homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk>
Date: Nov 14, 2013 11:55 AM
Subject: RE: Settlement Knowledge of language (New rule effective 28th October 2013) query - Tier 1 General category
To: "Sudhanshu Kumar"


Dear Sir / Madam

Thank you for your enquiry regarding the revised knowledge of Language and Life in the UK requirement that came in to force on 28th October 2013.

Applications for settlement in the UK must be supported by evidence that the applicant:

· has passed the Life in the UK test; AND
· has an English language speaking and listening qualification in English at B1 or higher on the Common European Framework of Reference for Languages, or an equivalent level qualification

We will accept a range of English language qualifications as evidence that an applicant has met the requirement to hold a B1 level speaking and listening qualification. This will help ensure that all those needing to take a test will be able to find one suitable for their needs and, so far as possible, that no one who already has an English language qualification at B1 level or above will be required to take another one.

The following qualifications will be accepted for settlement purposes:

• Qualifications covering speaking and listening at B1 or above from the Secure English Language Test (SELT) list in the Immigration Rules, Appendix O. The SELT list is available at:
www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/ ... -tests.pdf

• Qualifications in English for Speakers of Other Languages (ESOL) at Entry level 3, Level 1 or Level 2, that include speaking and listening and that have been regulated by the Office of Qualifications and Examinations Regulation (Ofqual), the Welsh Government or the Council for Curriculum, Examinations and Assessment (CCEA). The qualification must be listed as an ESOL qualification on the Register of Regulated Qualifications and have been taken in England, Wales or Northern Ireland. The register is available at: http://register.ofqual.gov.uk/Qualification

• A National Qualification in ESOL at Scottish Qualifications Framework

GESE Grade 5 qualifications awarded by Trinity College London are listed on the Ofqual register as “TCL Entry Level Certificate in ESOL International - Speaking and Listening (Entry 3)”. These qualifications therefore fall in to the 2nd bullet point above and are therefore accepted for settlement purposes.

Applicants will also need to show that they have passed the life in the UK test to demonstrate their knowledge of life in the UK.

Regards

Mrs C Richards

Mrs C Richards
Nationality Policy Advisor | Operational Policy & Rules Unit
Immigration & Border Policy | Home Office
Home Office, The Capital, Old Hall Street, Liverpool, L3 9PP.


From: Sudhanshu Kumar
Sent: 13 November 2013 22:30
To: Knowledge Of Life Policy Queries; Settlement Ops Policy Mailbox; Nationality Policy Team - Liverpool
Subject: Re: Settlement Knowledge of language (New rule effective 28th October 2013) query - Tier 1 General category

Dear Sir/Madam,

I would like to enquire about the new KOLL requirement from 28th October 2013 which now requires ILR applicants to have a speaking and listening qualification in English at B1 CEFR or higher, or an equivalent level qualification.

My query is regarding Trinity College GESE Grade 5 (Listening & Speaking) exam. Is this exam acceptable for ILR? This is not on the SELT list - http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... -tests.pdf.
There is a GESE Grade 2 on the last page of the SELT list for which says - "GESE Grade 2 pass in speaking and listening (Spouses & Partners)", but it is not for ILR.

Trinity college on its website says GESE, Speaking & Listening exam at Grade 5 (B1) will be accepted by UKBA. Link here - http://www.trinitycollege.co.uk/site/?id=2094

Also on wiki page for CEFR, it shows GESE Grade 5&6 at B1 level. Link here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Eur ... _Languages

Could you please confirm if a pass in GESE grade 5 will be accepted for ILR applications?

Kind Regards
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Postby Gaffer » Tue Nov 19, 2013 2:41 pm

Sahib wrote:Not so many posts from people who already successfully applied after 28th October, i am very confused as time is running and i can not decide if the Trinity College's GESE Grade 5 will be acceptable for the purpose of ILR application?


my info is the cert is approved and and there are other trinity credited exam centres around one in basildon essex i believe and there is a lituk in basildon as well but do not know if same place
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Postby tulip11 » Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:17 pm

I have been granted ILR and I had submitted trinity B1 certificate.
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Postby params0073 » Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:55 am

Official confirmation from HO that the trinity exam -GESE Grade 5
is valid for ILR.(look at page no.35)


http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... t-partners


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Postby Alwi » Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:24 am

Could someone answer my questions about new language requirement

How to book GESE test
How to prepare for it
How long does it take
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Postby tulip11 » Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:47 pm

Alwi wrote:Could someone answer my questions about new language requirement

How to book GESE test
How to prepare for it
How long does it take


you can book it online. There is no need for preparation it's very easy. It takes 10-15 minutes.
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Postby Gaffer » Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:47 am

tulip11 wrote:
Alwi wrote:Could someone answer my questions about new language requirement

How to book GESE test
How to prepare for it
How long does it take


you can book it online. There is no need for preparation it's very easy. It takes 10-15 minutes.


yet takes no more than 10 mins and is just a conversation try the lituk centre on 01268284040 if you are near to basildon they may be doing the english as well as the citizenship test
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Postby skahmed » Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:05 am

Hi All

After reading all posts on the topic and checking links I have no doubt that trinity college GESE grade 5 is acceptable as an evidence. This is now added on HO approved tests list as well.

Just one silly question for you all specially for tulip11 if you can answer please.

This trinity college qualification is for partners / dependents only or main applicant can also use it as an evidence for language qualification?
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Postby Gaffer » Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:33 am

skahmed wrote:Hi All

After reading all posts on the topic and checking links I have no doubt that trinity college GESE grade 5 is acceptable as an evidence. This is now added on HO approved tests list as well.

Just one silly question for you all specially for tulip11 if you can answer please.

This trinity college qualification is for partners / dependents only or main applicant can also use it as an evidence for language qualification?


I believe the L2 trinity GESE is a spousal one and of course the L5 for ILR or citizenship also just spoke with the Basildon centre for LITUK and they have now been approved for the english exams
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Postby skahmed » Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:41 am

Thanks Gaffer.

I just asked because I am going to take this exam next week and just wanted to make sure this is the correct one for main applicants. My wife has passed this grade 5 exam already. She is applying for ILR alongwith me.

Can someone who already got ILR as main applicant using trinitiy grade 5 certificate comment please?
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Postby tulip11 » Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:18 am

skahmed wrote:Hi All

After reading all posts on the topic and checking links I have no doubt that trinity college GESE grade 5 is acceptable as an evidence. This is now added on HO approved tests list as well.

Just one silly question for you all specially for tulip11 if you can answer please.

This trinity college qualification is for partners / dependents only or main applicant can also use it as an evidence for language qualification?


I was on spouse visa so I applied for my ILR by providing trinity certificate of b1 and Alhamdulillah that was successful.
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Postby skahmed » Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:27 pm

Thanks alot for the confirmation tulip11 and congratulations on your successfull application.

So this is now confirmed that this works for dependents and they dont need any thing else.

I am sure this works for main applicants too but it would be great if some one can confirm if they have already or whenever they get their ilr application approved using this qualification.

I know I am being over precautious but hope you all understand and help me kill the confusion.
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Postby tulip11 » Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:54 pm

skahmed wrote:Thanks alot for the confirmation tulip11 and congratulations on your successfull application.

So this is now confirmed that this works for dependents and they dont need any thing else.

I am sure this works for main applicants too but it would be great if some one can confirm if they have already or whenever they get their ilr application approved using this qualification.

I know I am being over precautious but hope you all understand and help me kill the confusion.


yeah you are right . I have degree which has been taught in english but I opted for this because its an easy way for me rather than going for verification etc etc which was quite a long way for me :p I know it happens before applying I had such experience as well . All the very best. My pleasure and Thanks alot :)
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GESE Exam

Postby Alwi » Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:41 pm

Thank you for the information about the English Test. Could anyone tell how to prepare for GESE level 5 exam. I have to do it next Tuesday.
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Re: GESE Exam

Postby tulip11 » Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:57 am

Alwi wrote:Thank you for the information about the English Test. Could anyone tell how to prepare for GESE level 5 exam. I have to do it next Tuesday.


tbh there is no such specific preparation for this exam as it's the most easiest and you ill pass it with flying colours. All the best.
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Re: GESE Exam

Postby Gaffer » Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:22 pm

Alwi wrote:Thank you for the information about the English Test. Could anyone tell how to prepare for GESE level 5 exam. I have to do it next Tuesday.


there are some videos on the trinity college london site you might find useful
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Re: GESE Exam

Postby tulip11 » Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:41 pm

Gaffer wrote:
Alwi wrote:Thank you for the information about the English Test. Could anyone tell how to prepare for GESE level 5 exam. I have to do it next Tuesday.


there are some videos on the trinity college london site you might find useful


Grade 5 videos are also available on Youtube and when you apply online so they will send out the links in email of those videos.
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