ILR valid for 10 years only

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ILR valid for 10 years only

Postby Hucer2212 » Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:41 am

Hi All,
Just got my BRP card arrived today and I noticed that on the card, it says valid from 19/12/2012
valid until 19/12/2022.

That means the ILR visa only valid for 10 years. Has anyone who got ILR visa can confirm that it is normal or just something weird with my case

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Postby Lucapooka » Sun Dec 23, 2012 11:21 am

I have British passport that is valid for 10 years. I will continue to be British after the expiry of that document but I will need to apply for a new passport. It's only the document that expires rather than the status. Do you see?

My visa debit card expires in January. I will still be a customer of the bank and have a valid bank account. I will be issued a new card. It's only the document that expires rather than the status Do you see?
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Postby uksettlement » Sun Dec 23, 2012 11:25 am

Hi Luca,

I think we need a like button on the forum.
Thanks!

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Postby Gagan1986 » Sun Dec 23, 2012 3:50 pm

Totally understand where Hucer is coming from as before when they used to stamp indefinite on passports, it didn't have an end date. But good example by Luca for making things more clearer.
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Postby Hucer2212 » Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:27 pm

I totally agree with Luca without a doubt. However, the problem is I cannot apply for BC in the future as my country only allows one nationality (you can see the problem when you go back home and the border finds out you have another nationality then alot of troubles etc). So I want to keep my nationality and ILR in the UK. Like you said, after 10 years I would have to apply for another ILR and pay another 2000 pounds?
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Postby Lucapooka » Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:30 pm

Hucer2212 wrote:Like you said, after 10 years I would have to apply for another ILR and pay another 2000 pounds?

No, but you might benefit from a course on English comprehension, as you clearly can't understand the otherwise clear information that is being imparted in this thread. I, and everyone else who is British, will have to pay for a new passport after 10 years, but we won't have to pay, or qualify, for a naturalization application. You can use that analogy for your ILR.
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Postby Hucer2212 » Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:36 pm

8) if I undertood clearly all the information then I wouldnt need to come here to ask a guru like you heh?
Is this forum supposed for a guru to advise the newbie, no? :twisted:
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Postby Gagan1986 » Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:38 pm

@Hucer

You are on Indeifinite Visa, you dont have to apply for it again. The biometric card has a validility of 10 years just like we have on our driving licence, passports, bank cards etc. Hopefully within an year/couple of years you will be eligible to apply for British Passport and that will be it. Then UK passport will again have a validity of 10 years which you need to renew it again as we do with any passport.

Hope this makes sense
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Postby Hucer2212 » Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:43 pm

Thanks gagan for ur info.
Like I said previously, my country does not allow to have to nationalities so I prefer to keep the ILR and my current nationality. therefore no plan to apply for British citizen, that' my concern if after 10 when my ILR expries then I have to extend/apply for new ILR again
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Postby Gagan1986 » Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:48 pm

You just need to renew your biometric card every 10 years then like we renew everything else. Renew does not mean new application.
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Postby Hucer2212 » Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:57 pm

Gagan1986 wrote:You just need to renew your biometric card every 10 years then like we renew everything else. Renew does not mean new application.


@Gagan:
Thanks for the straight answer
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Postby Heisgood » Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:33 pm

Hucer2212 wrote:
Gagan1986 wrote:You just need to renew your biometric card every 10 years then like we renew everything else. Renew does not mean new application.


@Gagan:
Thanks for the straight answer


The confusion is simply because UKBA are using a generic letter. The suppose ILR approval letter states this in bold letters on page 2

"Please be aware your leave expires on the date indicated on your Biometric Residence Permit.You are expected to make arrangements to leave the UK or apply for for further leave to remain, as appropriate,by that date"

Now, I suppose this can't be taken literal as this defeats the very purpose of the words ILR and Settlement....
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Postby Damanisshallo » Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:53 pm

As for the ten year expiry, I think it's a check-in to update photo and details. ILR does not expire. It is the Biometric Residence Permit that is valid for 10 years (like a drivers license) and needs to be renewed (like a drivers license) every ten years. The cost for a replacement BRP at the moment is only £37 so guessing it won't be much more than that in future.
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I am due for Naturilisation 1 year from BMC issue date?

Postby Scanner » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:51 pm

I am a bit confused. When am I actually due to apply for naturalisation after I receive my ILR? I know it is minimum of 1 year after I get my ILR.

I applied on the 02/05/2012. On my biometric card it says place and date of issue was 23/10/2012. However the card says valid until 02/05/2022 (exactly 10 years from the day I sent in my application NOT 10 years from the issue date).

So my question is does the one year start counting from 02/05/2012 or from 23/10/2012?
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Re: I am due for Naturilisation 1 year from BMC issue date?

Postby wpilr_nov12 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:00 pm

Scanner wrote:I am a bit confused. When am I actually due to apply for naturalisation after I receive my ILR? I know it is minimum of 1 year after I get my ILR.

I applied on the 02/05/2012. On my biometric card it says place and date of issue was 23/10/2012. However the card says valid until 02/05/2022 (exactly 10 years from the day I sent in my application NOT 10 years from the issue date).

So my question is does the one year start counting from 02/05/2012 or from 23/10/2012?


Your BRP card was issued on the 'issue' date. You can safely use this date to count your 1 year requirement. Prior to this, you were not on ILR.

Your BRP card will have expiry date of 10 years from date of application, not date of approval. This is to limit the usefulness of photo to 10 years from the date they receive it. If BRP card was to expire on the 10 anniversary of your ILR approval, then your photo would have been more than 10 yrs by then.
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Postby sheraz7 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:14 pm

Very early to your BRP date of expiry you can get British passport but again with some date of expiry on it :)
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Re: I am due for Naturilisation 1 year from BMC issue date?

Postby Scanner » Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:35 pm

wpilr_nov12 wrote:
Scanner wrote:I am a bit confused. When am I actually due to apply for naturalisation after I receive my ILR? I know it is minimum of 1 year after I get my ILR.

I applied on the 02/05/2012. On my biometric card it says place and date of issue was 23/10/2012. However the card says valid until 02/05/2022 (exactly 10 years from the day I sent in my application NOT 10 years from the issue date).

So my question is does the one year start counting from 02/05/2012 or from 23/10/2012?


Your BRP card was issued on the 'issue' date. You can safely use this date to count your 1 year requirement. Prior to this, you were not on ILR.

Your BRP card will have expiry date of 10 years from date of application, not date of approval. This is to limit the usefulness of photo to 10 years from the date they receive it. If BRP card was to expire on the 10 anniversary of your ILR approval, then your photo would have been more than 10 yrs by then.


Thank you sir/mam for your brilliant answer, so what happens if i lose my Bio-metric card and it gets re -issued with a new date? will the BRP card still have the expiry date of 02/05/2022? :-)
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Postby sheraz7 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:52 pm

Old BRP will be void and most probably the new replacement one will have same expiry date.
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Re: I am due for Naturilisation 1 year from BMC issue date?

Postby wpilr_nov12 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:53 pm

Scanner wrote:Thank you sir/mam for your brilliant answer, so what happens if i lose my Bio-metric card and it gets re -issued with a new date? will the BRP card still have the expiry date of 02/05/2022? :-)


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Re: I am due for Naturilisation 1 year from BMC issue date?

Postby Damanisshallo » Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:49 pm

wpilr_nov12 wrote:This is to limit the usefulness of photo to 10 years from the date they receive it.

I thought the picture used on the BRP Card was the digital version submitted along with biometrics??? Which is usually 2 months after the application date (with the current waiting times
Scanner wrote:So my question is does the one year start counting from 02/05/2012 or from 23/10/2012?

WRT your query, see if you qualify under paragraph 7.5gfor naturalisation 15 months from your ILR application date.
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