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Re: 2016 Citizenship Approvals

Post by Carlow04 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:24 am

Rio29 wrote:Carlow 04 - Can I ask what type of convictions you had, where and when ?
Rio29, convicted in the UK 2010 possession of a fraudulent document.

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Re: 2016 Citizenship Approvals

Post by Rio29 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 5:17 pm

Carlow - How long the sentence for and when you finished ?

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Re: 2016 Citizenship Approvals

Post by Rio29 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 5:20 pm

. Up to 12 months’
imprisonment.
Applications will normally be refused unless 10
years have passed since the end of the sentence

. A non-custodial sentence or
other out of court disposal
that is recorded on a person’s
criminal record
Applications will normally be refused if the
conviction occurred in the last 3 years.

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Re: 2016 Citizenship Approvals

Post by Rio29 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 5:23 pm

This the UK way of How Convictions & Sentences Affect Applications.

In Ireland up to 12 Month prison 7 years is classed as spent after finishing the sentence.

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Re: 2016 Citizenship Approvals

Post by Carlow04 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 5:30 pm

Thanks Rio29, in the UK 12months and less sentence, time served after 5years. And my sentence was time served last year. And the guidelines I think states that that shouldn't affect application

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Re: 2016 Citizenship Approvals

Post by Rio29 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 5:59 pm

No man that is not right 10 years in Uk to be ok for citizenship and 7 years In ireland

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Re: 2016 Citizenship Approvals

Post by Carlow04 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:08 pm

Rio29 the rules in the UK changed in 2014 with regards to when time is spent and on calculation on the uk disclosure calcutor my criminal record become entirely spent on 20/12/2014.

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Re: 2016 Citizenship Approvals

Post by Rio29 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:17 pm

Carlow04 wrote:Rio29 the rules in the UK changed in 2014 with regards to when time is spent and on calculation on the uk disclosure calcutor my criminal record become entirely spent on 20/12/2014.
Kindly see this link : https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... _D_v02.pdf

there is a difference between spent sentence and what Citizenship classed as spent.

In ireland 7 years but it does not say from the date of sentence or after serving sentence also does not mention outside sentences so depend how they calculated.

For the UK 10 years after your served the sentence , hope Ireland does not look into this matter same way .

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Re: 2016 Citizenship Approvals

Post by Carlow04 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:42 pm

Rio29 I hear what You saying mate but as my sentence was 8months sentence my spent time is less and my the way see https://www.nacro.org.uk/resettlement-a ... /#overseas, a conviction does not mean refusal. But I am hopeful all is well. And I applied as spouse of Irish citizen. In my last Inis document request, they asked me to write in my own words about my conviction.

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Re: 2016 Citizenship Approvals

Post by Rio29 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:50 pm

Carlow04 wrote:Rio29 I hear what You saying mate but as my sentence was 8months sentence my spent time is less and my the way see https://www.nacro.org.uk/resettlement-a ... /#overseas, a conviction does not mean refusal. But I am hopeful all is well. And I applied as spouse of Irish citizen. In my last Inis document request, they asked me to write in my own words about my conviction.
is the same link dude my wife has a conviction of 2 months and half in UK November 2007 and till now no answer, they did the same thing police record from UK and write a letter about her own word. here she never claim any social welfare and never commit any crime mother of 4 Irish kids , no answer so fare 22 months and we are waiting .
.... hope they do not look into UK conviction as it is overseas and Irish law does not charge the same manner but apparently they look into it same way dude

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Re: 2016 Citizenship Approvals

Post by Rio29 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:53 pm

anyone has conviction in this thread let us spread around and share experience.

Just for your knowledge the sentence in UK has squashed as well 2014 mean they find out miscarriage of justice , was a mistake sentence and we are waiting .... we submitted all documents dude and I went to UK to achieve all that .....

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Re: 2016 Citizenship Approvals

Post by Carlow04 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:06 pm

I feel you pain my brother and I pray to God that you and me both get its sorted. After this is over if we both get to the ceremony look me up for catch up mate. "Good things come to those who wait."

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Re: 2016 Citizenship Approvals

Post by Rio29 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:00 pm

do you think some with conviction has approval before her ?

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Re: 2016 Citizenship Approvals

Post by Zini » Wed Jul 20, 2016 4:43 pm

The wait is over...... Got my approval in post today yippie.... Timeline as follows applied August 2015, Documents requested all sent by October 2015, second stage letter November 4, Approval July 18,I realised anytime u are asked to submit a document your application is taken out of queue and left has pending, that's y it sometimes takes time to get approval, and if u lucky to have straight forward application u will fly through

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Re: 2016 Citizenship Approvals

Post by dublin7777 » Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:52 pm

Congratulation mate. This is a good sign for those of us waiting .
I pray and hope we got it soon and expressly.

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Re: 2016 Citizenship Approvals

Post by dad12345 » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:55 am

Hi guys,
Sent my application 1st week of March/16, got acknowledge letter and receipt less than one month later.

1st week of May/16 got letter asking for further documents which was sent at the end of May. After this I have not heard from them. Sent them an email this week and got a reply: your application continues to be processed. Not possible to give an exact time frame, this office will be in touch as soon as a decision has been reached. I can see people talking about 2nd stage letter which I never received. Is it unusual?

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Re: 2016 Citizenship Approvals

Post by jumanufer » Thu Jul 21, 2016 7:40 am

dad12345 wrote:Hi guys,
Sent my application 1st week of March/16, got acknowledge letter and receipt less than one month later.

1st week of May/16 got letter asking for further documents which was sent at the end of May. After this I have not heard from them. Sent them an email this week and got a reply: your application continues to be processed. Not possible to give an exact time frame, this office will be in touch as soon as a decision has been reached. I can see people talking about 2nd stage letter which I never received. Is it unusual?

Things are going slower than before and on top of that when they ask for information or documentation process moves to initial stage

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Re: 2016 Citizenship Approvals

Post by pixie12 » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:30 am

Zini wrote:The wait is over...... Got my approval in post today yippie.... Timeline as follows applied August 2015, Documents requested all sent by October 2015, second stage letter November 4, Approval July 18,I realised anytime u are asked to submit a document your application is taken out of queue and left has pending, that's y it sometimes takes time to get approval, and if u lucky to have straight forward application u will fly through
Congratulations!! Glad they are still sending out approvals!!!

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Re: 2016 Citizenship Approvals

Post by dad12345 » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:01 pm

jumanufer wrote:
dad12345 wrote:Hi guys,
Sent my application 1st week of March/16, got acknowledge letter and receipt less than one month later.

1st week of May/16 got letter asking for further documents which was sent at the end of May. After this I have not heard from them. Sent them an email this week and got a reply: your application continues to be processed. Not possible to give an exact time frame, this office will be in touch as soon as a decision has been reached. I can see people talking about 2nd stage letter which I never received. Is it unusual?

Things are going slower than before and on top of that when they ask for information or documentation process moves to initial stage
It is funny, my visa was about to expire then I asked them to extend my visa, then advised me to contact EU Treaty rights. I was advised to apply again. I did, receive a letter stating that it would take up to 14 weeks to receive the acnowledge letter. 3 weeks later I received a letter of approval for 10-year-visa. My friend applied for the naturalisation in February and received her letter of approval already.

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Re: 2016 Citizenship Approvals

Post by llvlludi » Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:19 pm

dad12345 wrote:
It is funny, my visa was about to expire then I asked them to extend my visa, then advised me to contact EU Treaty rights. I was advised to apply again. I did, receive a letter stating that it would take up to 14 weeks to receive the acnowledge letter. 3 weeks later I received a letter of approval for 10-year-visa. My friend applied for the naturalisation in February and received her letter of approval already.
Congratulations for 10 years stamps, you are lucky to get your stamp in 3 weeks time. I have been waiting for my stamp up to 10 months now.
!) Application date 19 Feb 2016, Based on 5 year residency, Spouse of EU
!) First letter 16 March 2016 - further letter 15 April 2016 asked for additional letter.
!) 2nd stage letter on August 2016

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Re: 2016 Citizenship Approvals

Post by dhruv87 » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:10 pm

llvlludi wrote:
dad12345 wrote:
It is funny, my visa was about to expire then I asked them to extend my visa, then advised me to contact EU Treaty rights. I was advised to apply again. I did, receive a letter stating that it would take up to 14 weeks to receive the acnowledge letter. 3 weeks later I received a letter of approval for 10-year-visa. My friend applied for the naturalisation in February and received her letter of approval already.
Congratulations for 10 years stamps, you are lucky to get your stamp in 3 weeks time. I have been waiting for my stamp up to 10 months now.
Congratulations frnd for 10 years visa..even m waiting too exactly 9 months. @IIVIIudi i emailed to EU treaty just for to know how long it could take more...i got auto emailed from them "it could take 14 weeks for first letter or 6months stamp and 10 months for approval. Just want to know llvlludi that how long it took for you for asking more documents? As i know you applied in September? So was exact 10 months later u got letter from them for asking few more documents..?
Thanks

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Re: 2016 Citizenship Approvals

Post by llvlludi » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:04 pm

I emailed them 2 weeks ago, explained my situation that i have to travel. After a week they sent me a letter, looking for more documents, which i sent last week. So far, I dont hear anything from them, I really hope i get my stamp sorted by next week, because i have to apply for visit visa for the country, i suppose to visit.


yes its exactly 10 months now.
!) Application date 19 Feb 2016, Based on 5 year residency, Spouse of EU
!) First letter 16 March 2016 - further letter 15 April 2016 asked for additional letter.
!) 2nd stage letter on August 2016

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Re: 2016 Citizenship Approvals

Post by dad12345 » Fri Jul 22, 2016 1:23 am

I got the conclusion that there is no rule, cases differ to each other. I probably got the new stamp so quick because I provided them all documents possible, I have been working in the same company for 9 years and I live in the same address in the last 8 years. All of this probably helped to get this visa renewed as I believe no much search was need. Now, in relation to my citizenship application I am expecting this to take at least 6 months to be reviewed. I wonder if the fact I have got 10-year visa would expedite the process. Not sure if the cross informations though. People are talking about 2nd stage letter. I have not received this letter either some people I know that have got the decision letter, they told me they never received such letter. At this stage I believe I will not be invited for the September ceremony as we are nearly in the end of July.

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Re: 2016 Citizenship Approvals

Post by llvlludi » Fri Jul 22, 2016 9:22 am

Just a quick update, regarding my 10 years stamp. Today i got approval letter on my door finally after exactly 10 months. Good luck for those, who are waiting for stamp 4, i guess they have speed up process, a lot of ppl getting stamps now.
!) Application date 19 Feb 2016, Based on 5 year residency, Spouse of EU
!) First letter 16 March 2016 - further letter 15 April 2016 asked for additional letter.
!) 2nd stage letter on August 2016

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Re: 2016 Citizenship Approvals

Post by llvlludi » Fri Jul 22, 2016 9:30 am

dad12345 wrote:I got the conclusion that there is no rule, cases differ to each other. I probably got the new stamp so quick because I provided them all documents possible, I have been working in the same company for 9 years and I live in the same address in the last 8 years. All of this probably helped to get this visa renewed as I believe no much search was need. Now, in relation to my citizenship application I am expecting this to take at least 6 months to be reviewed. I wonder if the fact I have got 10-year visa would expedite the process. Not sure if the cross informations though. People are talking about 2nd stage letter. I have not received this letter either some people I know that have got the decision letter, they told me they never received such letter. At this stage I believe I will not be invited for the September ceremony as we are nearly in the end of July.
My case was simple too, My wife was in business last 5 years and we have 3 kids together. They just moved my file 2 weeks ago, after i explained my situation that i have to travel with my children. Last week i got a letter from them , they wanted a Copy of my wife's ID card and exploitation who was the other person on business bank account. That was my wife's business partner, i sent them partnership agreement and business registration certificate.

Anyways, at the end i got it but its bit late now.I will not get approval for citizenship at least for Sep ceremony. My citizenship application is on hold because they have linked citizenship application with EU stamp 4 Approval.
!) Application date 19 Feb 2016, Based on 5 year residency, Spouse of EU
!) First letter 16 March 2016 - further letter 15 April 2016 asked for additional letter.
!) 2nd stage letter on August 2016

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