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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Postby damocov » Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:16 am

Sweet Mistakes: you shouldn't need anything for your grandfather's second and third wives, as they are irrelevant to proving your lineage.

The certificates you need are to prove that you are his descendent, not his entire history, nor the history of any of his wives (including your grandmother after she gave birth to your mother)

So his birth certificate, marriage certificate (to your grandmother), death certificate, may be worth including the first divorce certificate that shows he was still married to your grandmother at the time of your mother's birth, but so long as he's named on her birth certificate that shouldn't be really essential to the process.
Your mother's birth certificate, marriage certificate (if applicable), copy of current passport or death certificate.
Your birth certificate, marriage certificate (if applicable) and copy of current passport.

So you don't need any certificates for your father or grandmother other than their marriage certificates as they are not relevant to proving your link to your grandfather.
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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Postby Wilma1 » Fri Dec 09, 2016 7:58 am

Hi Wavey, great news, will let you know when ours arrive!
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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Postby Wavey » Fri Dec 09, 2016 11:17 am

Sweet Mistakes wrote:I also have a query which i'm unsure if anyone here can help me with?

I'm currently in the process of ordering supporting documents for the FBR through descent from my Grandfather, who was married three times, and wondering if you think i'll need to supply all three of these marriage certificates, along with a divorce certificate and two death certificates for his wives?

His first marriage was to my mothers, mother, to whom he then divorced.
Might it be possible for me to just send these two papers to confirm my mothers heritage?
I don't want to be ordering certificates that are not relevant to to my application as of course this will become expensive and they will never be used. He also, being the male of the relationships, will never have changed his name throughout his life, therefore these certificates will have no bearing on his name.

How many certificates do you think i can get away with sending for the application?

Any help will be appreciated, thank you xxx

Damocov is correct, It is only your line of decent so the others are irrelevant, you could contact the Embassy to make sure (I could be wrong) but I'm confident Damocov is right!

damocov wrote:Been lurking for a while and I've seen that it seems the time scales are looking less than the 6 month estimates, glad to see that Wavey who started this thread has got his certificate now, so I thought I'd add my details to help aid other lurkers tracking their applications.

For reference I applied for FBR to the London embassy on the 1st November (received and signed for on the 2nd), so fingers crossed I'll be hearing from them about the end of January.

My Sister resident in Scotland applied to the Edinburgh consulate about 4 weeks earlier so it should be interesting to see the relative speeds...

Glad you could join us, Good luck!
I would definitely expect it within the 6 month time frame, hopefully sooner, as said mine was 4 months and I did send it 6 weeks (approx) after the 'Brexit' vote, which is the time it took me to gather documents and such so would guess it would have taken people in my situation the same amount of time.

Wilma1 wrote:Hi Wavey, great news, will let you know when ours arrive!


I will definitely keep my fingers and toes crossed for you, I would expect it this side of the New Year for certain.


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All I am going to Liverpool tomorrow to use the 'Passport Express' service to get my Irish Passport. I will (if you wish) keep you updated on how long it takes (I believe it should only be 10 working days??)

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Postby Wilma1 » Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:53 pm

Hi Wavey, good luck with the passport. It will be interesting to know how long it takes, as things stand, we have no current plans to apply until the existing passport runs out.
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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Postby doomster » Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:48 am

Just received my certificate today. Very proud as this was something I set about long before Brexit, but had found difficulty with the paperwork as my grandmother's birth was recorded under a different first name and birth date to how we knew her !
Posted form 22 August. Certificate is dated 25 Nov, cover letter 28 Nov, postmark 19 Dec and received 20 Dec.
Good luck everyone else !
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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Postby smurphin » Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:07 pm

Hi doomster and everyone else, I randomly decided to check the board today to see if there were any updates and could see there's been quite a bit of movement, then got a notification about your post, you sent your docs about 2 weeks before me, so thought I'd go and check if the postman had been yet, he had, and he'd delivered me a nice brown envelope with a nice new FBR certificate :-) very happy as we have a baby on the way and it means now the baby will be entitled to dual citizenship too, a great Christmas present!

Posted on 31st August, certificate dated 25th November (same as doomster) cover letter dated 28th November (same as doomster) postmark 16th December, received today 20th December (probably due to a mail redirection after moving house) no SAE sent with my application. It definitely looks like they're doing these in batches, around 15 weeks for me.

Good luck everyone
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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Postby Wavey » Tue Dec 27, 2016 3:50 pm

Happy Holidays

Congratulations to you both, I'm very pleased you have both received yours, hopefully Wilma brings good news shortly!

An update on the passport process:
I sent my Passport application via Passport Express from Liverpool on 11/12/16, they received it on 13/12/16 and it is currently being processed with an ETA of 06/01/17.

Fingers crossed, no issues and will update you all soon.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Postby doomster » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:10 am

One thing to be very careful of with Liverpool is the photo. I went there just before Christmas and they rejected the photo. There is a pdf you can download about the photo requirements. I'd had mine done a Max Spielmann, but it was still rejected. I think they were wrong, but what can you do.
According to the pdf, with the chin aligned with the bottom red line the top of the crown through the hairline has to be between the 2 red lines.
I can't see what's wrong with this photo, but I had to go all the way back to Manchester, get another one, get it countersigned again and back to Liverpool. Even then they thought the new one was chancey.

This is the one rejected as the head being too small (i.e. top of head too low down):
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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Postby fakboss » Fri Jan 06, 2017 6:42 pm

Good Evening everyone on this forum,
Congrats those,who got their FBR and well wishes for
those,waiting in processing queue!
I've applied for FBR in Oct 2016 but have not received any
update yet.
I sent all supporting docs in original with my application
anyone here knows,how long it normaly takes to get reply?
Regards,
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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Postby doomster » Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:32 am

Based on my experience and the others in this thread it was about 4 months
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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Postby abundantbee » Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:15 am

My husband applied for FBR in October, so judging by other peoples' experiences, he should hear something in a few weeks time. We are also planning to go to Liverpool for his Irish passport.

It's interesting what Doomster has said about the passport photos at Liverpool. I personally didn't see anything wrong with what was submitted! We have asked for guidance on the photos, as my husband was born totally blind, so it's very difficult to meet the requirements they state. As of yet there's been no response to his query but hopefully he'll hear something back soon. We shall see how it goes :)
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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Postby Kathrynemc » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:26 pm

Hi all, I've been having a read through this thread and it's interesting to read all of the processing times. For those that have recently applied could you keep me updated on when you receive your FBR certificates. I sent all of my stuff on last week so I'm hoping according to all of the others times I'll be getting mine end of April!! Thanks x
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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Postby Wavey » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:43 am

Good Morning,

Good luck to all of you who have joined us in waiting for your FBR to be approved. As Doomster has said it has taken roughly 4 months per application, although I believe the consulate is still estimating 6 months.

I would like to tell you all I now hold an Irish Passport! I received it in the mail on Friday. Thanks for the heads up about the photographs Doomster, as I was at the Liverpool post office someone next to me was declined due to their photographs not matching specification. Mine were fine though, I did check beforehand.

For the passport I applied on 13/12 and received 13/1. There were many bank holidays during this time and with the close for Christmas it should be quicker (estimated 15 Working days). My passport was ready to be printed from 6/1, the only delay (according to the embassy) was contacting my witness.

This is my journey now complete, I am glad I got to share it with you all, I will keep popping in from time to time to see how people are getting on but I'm glad my thread, and all information gathered have been support/help to all of us.

Thank you

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Postby Sweet Mistakes » Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:05 pm

Thanks Damocov and Wavey for your responses. I managed to get in touch with the Irish Embassy and they've told me i'll need all of the certificates for his marriages and their death certificates as well :( It seems extremely unnecessary as the following two have no relation to me whatsoever, but hey, "you've got to do, what you've got to do".
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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Postby elampert » Tue Jan 17, 2017 3:59 pm

Hello All,

I've been lurking for a little bit while I've been collecting all of the documentation I needed for my FBR application. I'm applying from the Boston Consulate region and their procedure has changed recently. Instead of me submitting everything to them they told me to send it directly to Dublin. The woman who I spoke to at the Boston consulate says that they don't process the applications anymore.

Anyway, I got everything together and mailed it directly to the office in Dublin. The shipping confirmation said it arrived there on the 21st of December and, based on everything I've heard about this process, now its just a waiting game.

Do you all suggest calling to Dublin just to get a confirmation that they've actually received my package? It does include about every important document know to man so it'd be nice to know that they did get it.

I'll keep everyone updated on how long it takes to hear back.

Best,
Emily
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