Illegal Immigrant/ Birth Certificate for child / Residency

Me and my bf come here 6 years ago as a tourist we are both oversteyer he got me pregnant in 2008 and now have a child. is there a way we can get our child birth certificate without being cauht?

Is their a way for illegal immigrants coming forward to authorities seeking residensy?

tina27 wrote:is there a way we can get our child birth certificate without being cauht?

Not that I think of

tina27 wrote:Is their a way for illegal immigrants coming forward seeking residensy?

No way, not in Ireland as far as I know. Probably in the U.S with their new program

tina27 wrote:Me and my bf come here 6 years ago as a tourist we are both oversteyer he got me pregnant in 2008 and now have a child. is there a way we can get our child birth certificate without being cauht?

Is their a way for illegal immigrants coming forward seeking residensy?

Well since you were illegal at the time of your child's birth, which was in 2008, your child is not Irish Citizen or eligible to be Irish.

The law has changed. Before people were coming in pregnant giving birth here, and the child was automatically given an irish residence.
That has changed in 2005.
Unfortunately your child will not be able to get an irish citizenship. There are some exceptions where parents are legally living in eire continuously for over 3 years ( maybe 5 not sure), and that way it is possible to receive the birth cert for a child.

Your best bet would be to go to your embassy and apply for you child's birth certificate .

Did the mother go to the registery office in Ireland and register the birth soon after the child was born? If yes, the birth is recorded and anyone can get the birth cert by paying a small fee. Easy, no questions about legal residence.

If you did not register the birth, it would be unwise to do it now, as it will draw attention to the family. The child is too old at 5 years to register now without problems.

If you need a birth cert to register the child for school, the best idea is to get a birth cert from your own country in your own language, photocopy this and give the school a photocopy with a translation. Most schools are happy with a photocopy of a foreign birth cert. Schools also want a PPS number for the child - this is more difficult.

Your embassy will not provide you with a birth cert, so I do not think it a good idea to go to them to ask for one.

Brigid from Ireland wrote:Did the mother go to the registery office in Ireland and register the birth soon after the child was born? If yes, the birth is recorded and anyone can get the birth cert by paying a small fee. Easy, no questions about legal residence.

Your embassy will not provide you with a birth cert, so I do not think it a good idea to go to them to ask for one.

Is this to obtain Irish Birth Certificate or their country's birth certificate?.

An Irish birth cert. When a child is born in Ireland the birth is supposed to be registered in Ireland within three months of the birth.

Mom would have needed to go to the General Register Office (they register births, marriages and deaths) and register the birth. The father could go with her if he wished to be registered as the father. This must be done within three months of birth, so it is almost impossible to do when the child is now five years old.

If she did this she can get an Irish birth cert on payment of a small fee. Any individual can walk into the office with the fee, the date of birth, the child's name, and that is all you need to get the cert if the birth was registered.

If she did not do this the birth is most likely not registered, in which case she can't get an Irish birth cert because she has not completed the paperwork. Illegal immigrants are sometimes afraid to go to the register office to register the birth, for obvious reasons. When the child needs to start school they need a birth cert, so at age 5 there is a problem.

Some people get around the problem by asking gran to go to the register office in the home country and register the birth there. Some countries permit this and it gets a valid real birth cert for the child.

Brigid from Ireland wrote:An Irish birth cert. When a child is born in Ireland the birth is supposed to be registered in Ireland within three months of the birth.

Mom would have needed to go to the General Register Office (they register births, marriages and deaths) and register the birth. The father could go with her if he wished to be registered as the father. This must be done within three months of birth, so it is almost impossible to do when the child is now five years old.

If she did this she can get an Irish birth cert on payment of a small fee. Any individual can walk into the office with the fee, the date of birth, the child's name, and that is all you need to get the cert if the birth was registered.

If she did not do this the birth is most likely not registered, in which case she can't get an Irish birth cert because she has not completed the paperwork. Illegal immigrants are sometimes afraid to go to the register office to register the birth, for obvious reasons. When the child needs to start school they need a birth cert, so at age 5 there is a problem.

Some people get around the problem by asking gran to go to the register office in the home country and register the birth there. Some countries permit this and it gets a valid real birth cert for the child.

Im not very familiar with birth registry but you suggestion raises some questions which are:

If she register the child's birth, does that mean the child will be issued with an Irish birth Cert?

If your answer is yes, then it will be that the child is Irish then!?

I think whether registered or not, the parents MUST prove their entitlement to Irish citizenship before such certificate will be issued to the child?

Whether the child is 5 years, over or whatever, His/her birth can still be registered in Ireland but it still means nothing apparently since S/he is not entitled to Irish citizenship.

The child now is rather stateless and the parents need to contact the embassy of their country to get the child a birth certificate that is recognise or will enable him to travel, school etc

An Irish birth certificate would prove that the child was born in Ireland, but not give entitlement for Irish citizenship since the parents were not legal residants here, I think?

Jeupsy, Your understanding on the matter is correct, regardless of immigration status, any child born in Ireland will receive an Irish birth certificate, it doesn't however give the child an entitlement to Irish citizenship.

jeupsy wrote:An Irish birth certificate would prove that the child was born in Ireland, but not give entitlement for Irish citizenship since the parents were not legal residants here, I think?

This is true............obtaining citizenship is restricted to legal residency and has a time limit, having a child born here without satisfying some conditions will not entitle one to citizenship (due to the referendum).To the OP, did you register after the child was born? Brigid's post is very informative.

Regard's

If she register the child's birth, does that mean the child will be issued with an Irish birth Cert? Yes

If your answer is yes, then it will be that the child is Irish then!? No

I think whether registered or not, the parents MUST prove their entitlement to Irish citizenship before such certificate will be issued to the child? Not to Irish citizenship. One parent must have been legally resident in Ireland (other than as a student) for three of the four years before birth in order for the child to be a citizen. All children born in Ireland are entitled to a birth cert, but not to citizenship.

Whether the child is 5 years, over or whatever, His/her birth can still be registered in Ireland but it still means nothing apparently since S/he is not entitled to Irish citizenship. The birth cert is needed to obtain a passport from the parents home country, to enrol in school, to marry....
Illegal immigrant registering a birth of child who is less than three months old in Ireland = low risk
Illegal immigrant registering birth of a child who is now five years old = high risk of deportation

The child now is rather stateless and the parents need to contact the embassy of their country to get the child a birth certificate that is recognise or will enable him to travel, school etc In general, the child has citizenship of the parents country, and so is not stateless. In many cases the parents home country cannot issue a birth cert, as most countries will only issue a birth cert for a child born in the country. Some countries do, but very few. So what they need is an Irish birth cert, which they then send to their home country to get a passport from their home country for the child. But the child is too old now.

Thanks for the info @ Brigid from Ireland. That will help the OP

Yes child can get birth certifcate its his right

yes as meharsab said your child can get the birthcert its the child right but cant get irish passport tho

Hi guys, im new here,and want to ask a question.
If a non eu single mother is illegal in ireland, but the father
Is separated or divorce after 3 years(stamp 4eufam)
Can the illegal mother get visa.

And also if that illegal mother has a child in her non eu country
Can she bring her to ireland.

How can she bring her daughter here?

Please share your experience.
Thank u
U r all wonderful people here.

I am open to any debate

Thanks lovely peeps in advance.