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Re: pre july 2012 PBS dependants - Petition

Post by Amber » Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:01 pm

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Re: pre july 2012 PBS dependants - Petition

Post by aurnoc » Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:19 pm

Is there any way forward for us? Any hope at all to fight the case?
faisaltanoli wrote:Khanzada,

Thanks for sharing. It means thats confirm that even gambling time is over now. Cut the long story short, are you guys are willing to fight this case as I am thinking now to start some practical work. Please all the people who are willing to go for judicail review reply to the post so we shape up our next move.

Thanks

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Re: pre july 2012 PBS dependants - Petition

Post by Tier 4 » Tue Aug 05, 2014 1:08 pm

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Re: pre july 2012 PBS dependants - Petition

Post by faisaltanoli » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:31 pm

Every one who is interested in joining hands with us please come forward. Please people also reply my PM.

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Re: pre july 2012 PBS dependants - Petition

Post by aurnoc » Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:10 pm

Thanks Tier4, shall check the link.

Faisaltanoli, I didnt get any PM from you. Hope you got mine sent yesterday?
faisaltanoli wrote:Every one who is interested in joining hands with us please come forward. Please people also reply my PM.

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Re: pre july 2012 PBS dependants - Petition

Post by khanzada123 » Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:16 pm

I am ready lets go ahead......

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Re: pre july 2012 PBS dependants - Petition

Post by khanzada123 » Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:17 pm

I am ready lets go ahead.

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Re: pre july 2012 PBS dependants - Petition

Post by aurnoc » Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:19 pm

khanzada123 wrote:I am ready lets go ahead......

Did u get my PM? The message system is showing it was sent to everyone, but i only got reply from lemar.

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Re: pre july 2012 PBS dependants - Petition

Post by aurnoc » Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:22 pm

http://family.migrantsrights.org.uk/whats-the-issue

Facts:

According to the Government's own estimate this rule affects over 17.000 families each year
Only British citizens who can show they earn more than £18.600 can sponsor their non-European spouse's visa
£18,600 is over £5,000 more than someone working full-time earning the National Minimum Wage receives
47% of Brits working in the UK today earn less than the amount required to bring a foreign husband or wife here

...Howcome they didnt manage to win the case from HO :?: :!: :!:

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Re: pre july 2012 PBS dependants - Petition

Post by faisaltanoli » Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:31 pm

aurnoc wrote:Thanks Tier4, shall check the link.

Faisaltanoli, I didnt get any PM from you. Hope you got mine sent yesterday?
faisaltanoli wrote:Every one who is interested in joining hands with us please come forward. Please people also reply my PM.
Its in my outbox and I do not why they are not going. Also not received your PM yesterday.
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Re: pre july 2012 PBS dependants - Petition

Post by aurnoc » Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:48 pm

faisaltanoli wrote: Its in my outbox and I do not why they are not going. Also not received your PM yesterday.
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Same here, only 1 sent to lemar. All others are in outbox, i just checked :S
I think we all get in touch via email then.

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Re: pre july 2012 PBS dependants - Petition

Post by faisaltanoli » Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:55 pm

aurnoc wrote:
faisaltanoli wrote: Its in my outbox and I do not why they are not going. Also not received your PM yesterday.
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Faisal
Same here, only 1 sent to lemar. All others are in outbox, i just checked :S
I think we all get in touch via email then.
faisaltanoli26@hotmail.com. ..everyone can email me on this address and then we need to form some group

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Re: pre july 2012 PBS dependants - Petition

Post by Tier 4 » Wed Aug 06, 2014 12:12 am

faisaltanoli wrote:
aurnoc wrote:
faisaltanoli wrote: Its in my outbox and I do not why they are not going. Also not received your PM yesterday.
Regard
Faisal
Same here, only 1 sent to lemar. All others are in outbox, i just checked :S
I think we all get in touch via email then.
faisaltanoli26@hotmail.com. ..everyone can email me on this address and then we need to form some group
we can make facebook page, it ll make us easy to get together
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Re: pre july 2012 PBS dependants - Petition

Post by Tier 4 » Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:33 pm

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Re: pre july 2012 PBS dependants - Petition

Post by haji786 » Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:05 am

faisal sb
any one started the list of people affected by 6 april rules

to made a leagel challenge .we are 4 frinds to participate.

thnx
haji

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Re: pre july 2012 PBS dependants - Petition

Post by faisaltanoli » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:35 am

Salam Haji sb.

I am working on the list, please send all the people details in Private message or an email. Please also join the facebook page created by Tier4. My email address is given above post.

Thanks
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Re: pre july 2012 PBS dependants - Petition

Post by Tier 4 » Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:09 am

faisaltanoli wrote:Salam Haji sb.

I am working on the list, please send all the people details in Private message or an email. Please also join the facebook page created by Tier4. My email address is given above post.

Thanks
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Faisal
Brother there are 5 people in facebook page, now the vision is more clearer, I am in the middle of firing away my Set (lr) and Mrs FLR (FP) application and ll put my full attention to this matter along with you guys later on.

Guys keep in touch
Many thanks
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Re: pre july 2012 PBS dependants - Petition

Post by khanzada123 » Sat Aug 09, 2014 9:16 am

Just to let you guys know that i have signed the e-petition. ...so upto now we got 36 members who have signed the e-petition. ....

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Re: pre july 2012 PBS dependants - Petition

Post by haji786 » Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:48 am

dear friends
i got my ILR on the basis of long residence in april 2014.my wife and 2 kids still have teir 1 general depandant visa untill dec2015.now i would like to apply flr m visa.
i was listening one solicter program on tv he said your dependants must switch to new visa in 28 days. is there any problem if i apply their switching now.

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Re: pre july 2012 PBS dependants - Petition

Post by aurnoc » Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:09 pm

haji786 wrote:dear friends
i got my ILR on the basis of long residence in april 2014.my wife and 2 kids still have teir 1 general depandant visa untill dec2015.now i would like to apply flr m visa.
i was listening one solicter program on tv he said your dependants must switch to new visa in 28 days. is there any problem if i apply their switching now.

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haji
There should be no problem, switch it soon.

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Re: pre july 2012 PBS dependants - Petition

Post by MazUK » Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:26 pm

Hi All

I'm preparing for my wife's FLR M application and I'm self employed. Can someone please advise what financial supporting documents do I have to provide with the application.

Thanks in advance

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Re: pre july 2012 PBS dependants - Petition

Post by Amber » Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:34 pm

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Re: pre july 2012 PBS dependants - Petition

Post by die_hard » Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:21 pm

Dear Senior members/Amber,

On the FLR(M) form guidance notes (Page 2), it is mentioned as -

You must not use this form to make an application for an extension of stay in the following
categories:
• As the partner of a serving member of HM Armed Forces under Appendix Armed Forces of the
Immigration Rules. You must complete form FLR(AF).
• On the 10 year Partner route under Appendix FM of the Immigration Rules. You must complete
form FLR(FP).
• As the partner of a person granted indefinite leave to remain in a work route, if you are currently in the UK as their dependant.

So according to the second point, the dependant of 10 year ILR or SET(LR) applicants cannot apply using FLR(M) but FLR(FP) ? Please clarify guys.

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Re: pre july 2012 PBS dependants - Petition

Post by Amber » Wed Aug 20, 2014 7:24 pm

FLR(M) is fine if the dep meets the English and Financial Requirements.
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Re: pre july 2012 PBS dependants - Petition

Post by aurnoc » Wed Aug 20, 2014 7:35 pm

die_hard wrote:Dear Senior members/Amber,

On the FLR(M) form guidance notes (Page 2), it is mentioned as -

You must not use this form to make an application for an extension of stay in the following
categories:
• As the partner of a serving member of HM Armed Forces under Appendix Armed Forces of the
Immigration Rules. You must complete form FLR(AF).
• On the 10 year Partner route under Appendix FM of the Immigration Rules. You must complete
form FLR(FP).
• As the partner of a person granted indefinite leave to remain in a work route, if you are currently in the UK as their dependant.

So according to the second point, the dependant of 10 year ILR or SET(LR) applicants cannot apply using FLR(M) but FLR(FP) ? Please clarify guys.

Thanks
Die Hard bro u truly gave me a heart attack OMG!! Back to my senses n reading the guidance notes.

Here's what I understand: FLR M is for applicants whose spouses got ILR through SET LR 10 year long residence basis. (And the form is also for other categories mentioned in guidance notes)

FLR FP is for 10year settlement route based on family route /parent route. Those who can't fulfill financial requirement of FLR M also need to use FLR P. (And the form is also for other categories mentioned in guidance notes).

Amber or Seniors please comment!!!

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