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Cait422
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American moving to Ireland for (same sex) partner

Post by Cait422 » Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:44 pm

My partner and I have been researching for quite some time for a solution to our situation. We have frequented all of the official govt sites, INIS/GNIB/crosscare/citizensinformation even emailed some departments etc etc - my partner even consulted an immigration specialist there in Ireland - still, we are pretty confused and have no solid answers to our questions.

My partner is an Irish citizen, residing in the republic of Ireland - we are not married. We have been together 15 months, I am an American citizen living residing in America. The goal here is for me to move there to join her, and eventually marry. I cannot find anything on permitting a partner to reside in Ireland with their mate accept for the defacto partnership - which we don't qualify for because we have not yet been together 2yrs. We don't wish to marry just for the sake of getting permission to move to Ireland with her, but rather to do that in our own time, properly when we can afford a wedding and have our families join to share our special day. I am not a student, so student visa is not an option for me - and I would not likely be granted a work permit/visa because I am not a doctor/nurse/IT specialist etc, or anything they would deem beneficial to them.

The immigration specialist my partner consulted told her to just have me fly into Ireland, and register with Garda and tell an immigration officer upon my entry of my intents and they would then refer us to where we need to go etc etc - this is a bit too loose for me, and not assuring enough for me to uproot an entire life here to 'maybe' be granted the right to live with my partner. She just made it seem very lax, like it was just that easy to come and just tell them I want to stay when I know well enough that it isn't....

All that being said, what is the simplest way for me to get permission to reside in Ireland with my partner until we do marry? I have not found anything else other than this defacto option, but again we aren't eligible as we've not been together quite 2 years yet.

If we absolutely have to marry to make this happen we will, but we really don't want to do all of that so quickly without being able to have a ceremony and our families, we're a bit old-fashioned. But there must be a more simpler way, or some kind of rights for us to reside together. I'd love to hear other's experiences, if as an american you've moved to Ireland for your partner/spouse and how it went, what you had to do etc... and vice versa, if you're an Irish citizen and has an american partner move to you. First hand experiences would help me understand the process immensely, as much of what I've read either contradicts other things I've read, and leave me in the dark somewhat.


I really appreciate any help I can get. We're growing pretty frustrated, being told different things from each person we consult with and being bounced all around. We just want to start our lives together. :cry:

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Re: American moving to Ireland for (same sex) partner

Post by CalvinKlien » Mon Nov 17, 2014 4:19 pm

I know u don't wana get married in a rush but to be honest this is the most easy option for you to settle down in Ireland and it's hassle free.

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Re: American moving to Ireland for (same sex) partner

Post by chaoclive » Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:42 pm

Hi Cait

TBH I didn't read your post really closely, but I just wanted to draw your attention to the EU route (NOT the Irish national immigration laws). If your partner is willing (/able) to, she could move to the UK, e.g. Northern Ireland (NI) and find a job, she would be able to work without question and, as such, you could get an EEA family permit: https://www.gov.uk/family-permit from the British Embassy in New York (postal application). She should work/study/become self-employed/be self-sufficient. Then you would be able to apply for a UK residence card on form EEA2.

You can read up on the EEA law here: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/Lex ... 123:EN:PDF. Note: the Directive doesn't state that you have to be in a durable relationship for 2 years and, if you were rejected, I guess that you would be able to appeal.

If she were to work in Northern Ireland, you could qualify for Irish citizenship after 3 years: http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/mo ... riage.html. Of course, there are other requirements too. By living in Northern Ireland, you would be close to her family and friends too. I'm not sure how marriage works if you are not actually resident in Ireland but I'm sure this is something you could work out later. Of course, I'm sure you're aware that same sex marriage is not available in either the ROI or NI. Both only offer civil partnerships at present. It is possible to have a same sex marriage in England/Scotland and Wales (UK). Civil partnership are fine for immigration purposes.

This is just a thought/option for you. Don't know if it is realistic for her to uproot and move to Northern Ireland but it's something to consider. Your situation is the similar to ours. I am Irish, my civil partner is Chinese and we work and live in Northern Ireland.

If you have questions about this route, I will be able to answer them for you. You can also post on the EEA Route section of Immigration Boards.

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