EEA4 fast processing times or wishful thinking

Boris89 · Post by **Boris89** » Thu May 28, 2015 10:49 am

Blackhawk80 wrote:Morning all,did anyone applied and got his or her RR to live before applying for PR?.I did and got it 7 months before I applied for PR in January.Is someone in in the same situation as me or knows anyone ,pls shear if you can thank you.

Blackhawk80

can you please explain in more details ? i can not understand your post

akz · Post by **akz** » Thu May 28, 2015 10:56 am

love123 wrote:
Andrewbird35 wrote:Hi Love123
Half good and half bad news..
When did you get your passport back?
Iran when your Soliciter received your documents?
In terms of appeal I'm not sure about your 2 years gape.
Some law expert in forum can advice on it.
What about your Soliciter?What he/she says.
Good luck for your appeal..

I. Have it bake yesterday I had a reason for my wife no been working because I have disability child and I have all the proof and documents and they already explained to them when I applied and my solicitor have I have a good chance so I will appeal.

HI

I have same situation as my wife was full time carer to DLA son from birth till now, she was self employed since 2010 jan, never stop self employment, because of carer responsibility she was not earning too much and her average income was average 60/week in five years,

Also she took maternity leave for my daughter 38 weeks but was still self employed . HO refused our application for PR because the following two reason:

1, too lees money earn
2, maternity leave is a gap.

But I lodge appeal and waiting for the appeal day.in the mean time i am preparing my application for RC as my current one will finishing in oct 2015.

Thanks
akz

Boris89 · Post by **Boris89** » Thu May 28, 2015 2:47 pm

akz wrote:
love123 wrote:
Andrewbird35 wrote:Hi Love123
Half good and half bad news..
When did you get your passport back?
Iran when your Soliciter received your documents?
In terms of appeal I'm not sure about your 2 years gape.
Some law expert in forum can advice on it.
What about your Soliciter?What he/she says.
Good luck for your appeal..

I. Have it bake yesterday I had a reason for my wife no been working because I have disability child and I have all the proof and documents and they already explained to them when I applied and my solicitor have I have a good chance so I will appeal.
HI

I have same situation as my wife was full time carer to DLA son from birth till now, she was self employed since 2010 jan, never stop self employment, because of carer responsibility she was not earning too much and her average income was average 60/week in five years,

Also she took maternity leave for my daughter 38 weeks but was still self employed . HO refused our application for PR because the following two reason:

1, too lees money earn
2, maternity leave is a gap.

But I lodge appeal and waiting for the appeal day.in the mean time i am preparing my application for RC as my current one will finishing in oct 2015.

Thanks
akz

hi AKZ ,

how much did your partner earn ?

akz · Post by **akz** » Thu May 28, 2015 3:59 pm

hi AKZ ,

how much did your partner earn ?

In our five years time 2 maternity leave each 38 week long, but my wife was still self employed registered during that time.
the average income of five years is 55/week

They have not considered some invoices as were paid cash to in my appeal i will provide more proof to make it consider and also i will raise the point that there was no minimum income threshold exist for self employed EEA. the second point will be maternity leave is not gap but it lawfully allowed to EEA national worker or self employed to go for maternity leave and retain the right to reside status during that leave.

thinking if i can raise some more points . But i am not sure about judge as he will support the UKBA not us as every english is now too angry on EEA national, the proof is 2015 uk election.

Remember is there no human rights if an english is angry.

good luck every one.

akz

Blackhawk80 · Post by **Blackhawk80** » Thu May 28, 2015 5:16 pm

Hello all,I had my RC in 2010 unfortunately I had to divorce after 3 and half years of marriage to my EU national,I then applied for right to retain my live here as a family member of an EU national.In January this year I applied for PR base on five years since marriage,I did receive coma about two weeks after application and still waiting for PR,I hope I have been clear enough.thank you

Andrewbird35 · Post by **Andrewbird35** » Fri May 29, 2015 4:01 pm

Guys wondering may be I'm wrong but it seems people who applied for RC their are getting response much quicker than those applied PR..
As RC people getting their RC of end of Jan applicants but PR still on wait as I applied on 12/01/15.
Someone said in forum it takes up to 90 working days on average but mine is almost 100 business days but nothing..
Do not know how long more..

judliv · Post by **judliv** » Fri May 29, 2015 7:24 pm

Thought I should share my time line
sent application: 24/01/15
Acknowledgement: 30/01/15
COA dated: 04/02/15(with rights of work)
PR. dated: 26/05/15

Couldn't be happier and I thank my Lord. Now summer holiday plans can begin

Documents sent:
Tenant Agreement
Joint Bank Statements
EU Spouse payslips (for the past 5 years, was obviously missing some)
My own payslips for the past 2 months (not needed in EU law but thought it will do no harm sending it)
EU spouse passport
My own passport.

Good luck to everybody and thanks to the gurus and other contributors because I got a lot of information from the forum.

anwm · Post by **anwm** » Sat May 30, 2015 9:29 am

Application submitted on 28/01/2015
Acknowledge letter 30/01/2015
COA - 4/02/2015

still waiting

We are going abroad on 1 July so we are going to wait couple days and then request documents back :/

Our application is (I think) straight forward.

My OH has been here since 2006 (came on a visa and a work permit), we have been living together since 2007, got married in 2009.
I have been working since I came to the UK in 2007 and provided all my contracts of employment, P60 for every single year (starting from 2007) and P45. I was also required to register under WRS so I provided a copy of the certificate and payslips for each month I was required to be registered under WRS.
We also provided council taxes bills to prove we have been living together, marriage certificate (we got married here), passports.
My Oh currently has a spouse visa which was granted in 2010 for 5 years.

marvellous · Post by **marvellous** » Sat May 30, 2015 1:08 pm

Blackhawk80 wrote:Morning all,did anyone applied and got his or her RR to live before applying for PR?.I did and got it 7 months before I applied for PR in January.Is someone in in the same situation as me or knows anyone ,pls shear if you can thank you.

Yes, I got my RR before I applying for PR, in April I received the acknowledgement letter and Biometric Letter which I summited after 3days of receiving it. since then nothing
No COA. I think they still need to send me COA, But I don't think I need it as I have retained my right of residence. Please I just want know if is normal All Guru in the House.
thanks.

AngieD · Post by **AngieD** » Sat May 30, 2015 2:42 pm

My husband received his PR today (its actually dated 18.5.15)

Applied on 1 February 2015 using old EEA4 form - Singh case

Blackhawk80 · Post by **Blackhawk80** » Sun May 31, 2015 9:23 am

AngieD wrote:My husband received his PR today (its actually dated 18.5.15)

Applied on 1 February 2015 using old EEA4 form - Singh case

Congratulations AngieD,I also did applied with the old eea4 form ,if I may ask was your husband ask for a biometric info.I applied on the 24/01/15 and still waiting.

harmeetsingh · Post by **harmeetsingh** » Sun May 31, 2015 11:02 am

Hi Guys,

Thought I would share my timeline so far

Application received by HO - 02/05/2015
Acknowledgment received - 08/05/2015
Bio metric submitted - 23/05/2015

PR - Waiting

AngieD · Post by **AngieD** » Sun May 31, 2015 12:30 pm

Blackhawk80 wrote:
AngieD wrote:My husband received his PR today (its actually dated 18.5.15)

Applied on 1 February 2015 using old EEA4 form - Singh case
Congratulations AngieD,I also did applied with the old eea4 form ,if I may ask was your husband ask for a biometric info.I applied on the 24/01/15 and still waiting.

No he wasn't asked for biometrics and the PR is in his passport not a separate card

Blackhawk80 · Post by **Blackhawk80** » Sun May 31, 2015 4:31 pm

Hello to all,I will like to ask if my eea4 application will be affected at all ie put back in the the line if I request the return of my passport,application made on 24/01/15 and received the next day by UKBA.Am taking this steps because I need to travel next month and am not sure I am likely to receive it by then.thank you.

k7bs · Post by **k7bs** » Sun May 31, 2015 5:18 pm

Blackhawk80 wrote:Hello to all,I will like to ask if my eea4 application will be affected at all ie put back in the the line if I request the return of my passport,application made on 24/01/15 and received the next day by UKBA.Am taking this steps because I need to travel next month and am not sure I am likely to receive it by then.thank you.

It looks like they are approving the January applications now so yours might be on its way to you soon but if your travel plans are urgent then I urge you to request for it because it takes a while. Doing this might even cause them to look at your file and approve your application and send your PR together with your passport: this happened to me during my RC application. However I don't think it will put you behind the queue as everyone has the right to this. Doing that will be sheer discrimination!

Oliver2011 · Post by **Oliver2011** » Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:23 am

Dear Members

I am New to the forum
I Got few questions about EEA4 Please any one can help me out

1. I got EEA2 Residance Card in Nov 2010 so I am due to apply Nov 2015 for May EEA 4
so How many days before I can Apply for EEA4?

2. My wife working history since last 5 years
Nov 2010-Sept 2011 ( Fulltime working)
Oct 2011-Sept 2012( Meternity Pay( Oct 2011-June 2012) from the employer but ,July2012, Aug 2012, Sep 2012 no payment but still with same company until P45 Issued on 21st Sep 2012
Oct 2012-March 13( Part time working but Oct- Dec 12 by Banks Pay,Jan 2013-March 2013 Cash Payment)
April 2013-May 2015( Full time working ) Still working

her total income for last 5 year ( £45000 )

is that ok as she is accessing treat rights as a worker and self sufficiant

3. We Receiving Child Benfit and Child tax credit , does it effet for my eea4 Appliction

4. As I am working( Non EEA) from since last five years.

Please help me out

Oliver2011 · Post by **Oliver2011** » Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:46 am

Oliver2011 wrote:Dear Members

I am New to the forum
I Got few questions about EEA4 Please any one can help me out

1. I got EEA2 Residance Card in Nov 2010 so I am due to apply Nov 2015 for May EEA 4
so How many days before I can Apply for EEA4?

2. My wife working history since last 5 years
Nov 2010-Sept 2011 ( Fulltime working)
Oct 2011-Sept 2012( Meternity Pay( Oct 2011-June 2012) from the employer but ,July2012, Aug 2012, Sep 2012 no payment but still with same company until P45 Issued on 21st Sep 2012
Oct 2012-March 13( Part time working but Oct- Dec 12 by Banks Pay,Jan 2013-March 2013 Cash Payment)
April 2013-May 2015( Full time working ) Still working

her total income for last 5 years ( £45000 )

is that ok as she is accessing treat rights as a worker and self sufficiant

3. We Receiving Child Benfit and Child tax credit , does it effet for my eea4 Appliction

4. As I am working( Non EEA) from since last five years.

Please help me out

haris butt · Post by **haris butt** » Mon Jun 01, 2015 2:58 pm

dear members plz help me on this

Currently im holding 5year RC as a famlily member of eea national (my dad) my dad is exercising his treaty rights as self employed since 2008.i came in the uk on a student visa in 2010 and in 2011 I got RC ( over 21 child dependent on my dad).

After getting my RC im self employed since that time . regarding my PR application do i need to provide dependncy on my dad or what ?

what do i have to include in my PR application?

thanks

k7bs · Post by **k7bs** » Mon Jun 01, 2015 11:31 pm

haris butt wrote:dear members plz help me on this

Currently im holding 5year RC as a famlily member of eea national (my dad) my dad is exercising his treaty rights as self employed since 2008.i came in the uk on a student visa in 2010 and in 2011 I got RC ( over 21 child dependent on my dad).

After getting my RC im self employed since that time . regarding my PR application do i need to provide dependncy on my dad or what ?

what do i have to include in my PR application?

thanks

As an older dependant over 21 on your dad who is your sponsor, you will need to show that you have been solely financially dependant on him for the qualifying 5 years. This includes regular monthly transfers from his account to your account, prove you live at the same address where he pays the bills, rents or owns and receipts of any type of expenses he covers for you (in the case of students accommodation costs, books, food and basic essentials).
Once you start working and earning your own money then it becomes harder to even qualify but under the new forms there is nothing on there to declare if you have ever worked so I think you'll be able to get away with this if you have all the necessary documents mentioned above. Good luck with your application!

hunpak · Post by **hunpak** » Mon Jun 01, 2015 11:59 pm

Andrewbird35 wrote:Hi Love123
Half good and half bad news..
When did you get your passport back?
Iran when your Soliciter received your documents?
In terms of appeal I'm not sure about your 2 years gape.
Some law expert in forum can advice on it.
What about your Soliciter?What he/she says.
Good luck for your appeal..

sorry to hear that what was the status of your spouse does she/he have a PR him/herself

sabastine · Post by **sabastine** » Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:37 am

i applied in jan 2015 i received COA end of jan and my pr arrived may 28th 2015

Oliver2011 · Post by **Oliver2011** » Tue Jun 02, 2015 1:00 pm

sabastine wrote:i applied in jan 2015 i received COA end of jan and my pr arrived may 28th 2015

Congrats Sanastine

Oliver2011 · Post by **Oliver2011** » Tue Jun 02, 2015 1:03 pm

Dear Members

I am New to the forum
I Got few questions about EEA4 Please any one can help me out

1. I got EEA2 Residance Card in Nov 2010 so I am due to apply Nov 2015 for May EEA 4
so How many days before I can Apply for EEA4?

2. My wife working history since last 5 years
Nov 2010-Sept 2011 ( Fulltime working)
Oct 2011-Sept 2012( Meternity Pay( Oct 2011-June 2012) from the employer but ,July2012, Aug 2012, Sep 2012 no payment but still with same company until P45 Issued on 21st Sep 2012
Oct 2012-March 13( Part time working but Oct- Dec 12 by Banks Pay,Jan 2013-March 2013 Cash Payment)
April 2013-May 2015( Full time working ) Still working

her total income for last 5 years ( £45000 )

is that ok as she is accessing treat rights as a worker and self sufficiant

3. We Receiving Child Benfit and Child tax credit , does it effet for my eea4 Appliction

4. As I am working( Non EEA) from since last five years.

Please help me out

suzannedel · Post by **suzannedel** » Tue Jun 02, 2015 4:30 pm

Oliver2011 wrote:Dear Members

I am New to the forum
I Got few questions about EEA4 Please any one can help me out

1. I got EEA2 Residance Card in Nov 2010 so I am due to apply Nov 2015 for May EEA 4
so How many days before I can Apply for EEA4?

2. My wife working history since last 5 years
Nov 2010-Sept 2011 ( Fulltime working)
Oct 2011-Sept 2012( Meternity Pay( Oct 2011-June 2012) from the employer but ,July2012, Aug 2012, Sep 2012 no payment but still with same company until P45 Issued on 21st Sep 2012
Oct 2012-March 13( Part time working but Oct- Dec 12 by Banks Pay,Jan 2013-March 2013 Cash Payment)
April 2013-May 2015( Full time working ) Still working

her total income for last 5 years ( £45000 )

is that ok as she is accessing treat rights as a worker and self sufficiant

3. We Receiving Child Benfit and Child tax credit , does it effet for my eea4 Appliction

4. As I am working( Non EEA) from since last five years.

Please help me out

oliver,
for your first question im not sure, in general people apply like 1 month before their residence card expore so October for you, however I think some solicitor say we can apply 5 years after a couple has been living together (evidence of council tax, tenancy agreement ...) however not all solicitors do that.... you should ask few lawyers about that point ... don't ask just 1 but few ...

And, as far as I know and been told by sollicitoir getting child benefit and child tax credit is YOUR RIGHT IN THIS COUNTRY. so shouldn't be any problem. and if your wife has been working for the last 5 years so that's great, that means she is exercising her treaty rights and hopefully you will get your PR. as for you being working that doesn't matter if you work or no because that's your spouse who has to provide financial help for you

so good luck !!!!

Blackhawk80 · Post by **Blackhawk80** » Tue Jun 02, 2015 5:29 pm

sabastine wrote:i applied in jan 2015 i received COA end of jan and my pr arrived may 28th 2015

Hello Sebastine congratulations on your application,if I may ask did you apply to retain your right of leave before your PR application?

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