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Surrinder Singh. Next Steps?

Post by vweeks » Wed Oct 07, 2015 10:54 am

Hello

I arrived in Ireland with my British spouse 1 month ago.

Yesterday, we went to the Social Services office in Sligo to apply for a PPS number but according to the lady we spoke to in order to receive a PPS number I would need to have a GNIB card.

We honestly have no idea what is the next step in the immigration process.

Do I need to go to the local gardai and register?

Do I need to send in the EU1 form with supporting documents even though I do not have a PPS number?

When do I apply for a PPS number?

My visa expires December 5th and we really do not want any issues and would like to have everything in order before then. We would like to leave for the UK by February

ANY help is apreciated.

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Re: Surrinder Singh. Next Steps?

Post by Jane20231 » Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:02 am

Sorry can I asked you did you applied for accompany eu spouse ?? And in how many weeks did you get the decision???

as four month has passed I still not got my decision

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Re: Surrinder Singh. Next Steps?

Post by Jane20231 » Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:04 am

And also from which country did you applied from?? I wanted to know how long they are usually taking now a days for accompany eu spouse visa

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Re: Surrinder Singh. Next Steps?

Post by vweeks » Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:12 am

umairks123 wrote:Sorry can I asked you did you applied for accompany eu spouse ?? And in how many weeks did you get the decision???

as four month has passed I still not got my decision
Yes I applid to accompany my eu spouse. It would have taken 2-3 weeks but because I was denied a visa to the UK there was a delay in my decision. It took almost 6 weeks to get a decision. I am a Liberian national

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Re: Surrinder Singh. Next Steps?

Post by kunfayakun » Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:26 pm

vweeks wrote:Hello

I arrived in Ireland with my British spouse 1 month ago.

Yesterday, we went to the Social Services office in Sligo to apply for a PPS number but according to the lady we spoke to in order to receive a PPS number I would need to have a GNIB card.

We honestly have no idea what is the next step in the immigration process.

Do I need to go to the local gardai and register?

Do I need to send in the EU1 form with supporting documents even though I do not have a PPS number?

When do I apply for a PPS number?

My visa expires December 5th and we really do not want any issues and would like to have everything in order before then. We would like to leave for the UK by February

ANY help is apreciated.
I am surprised :roll: why do they need GNIB card to apply for the pps number? what documents did you bring with you when you go there? and don't worry you have 2 months left so you can prepare for your EU1 without any issue :)
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Re: Surrinder Singh. Next Steps?

Post by vweeks » Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:46 pm

I brought all the necessary documents (tenant agreement, job offer). She said to bring my GNIB card and passport on my appointment. I said I did not have a GNIB card. She said I would need to go to garda and apply for Immigration Certificates of Registration.

I am really confused. Is it necessary to get a pps number before applying for a resident card through Eu1 form? And do I need to register with garda now or do I do that after as well?

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Re: Surrinder Singh. Next Steps?

Post by noajthan » Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:50 pm

vweeks wrote:Hello

I arrived in Ireland with my British spouse 1 month ago.

...

We honestly have no idea what is the next step in the immigration process.

...

ANY help is apreciated.
This may give you some idea of steps to follow:
eea-route-applications/eea2-surinder-si ... t=surinder
All that is gold does not glitter; Not all those who wander are lost. E&OE.

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Re: Surrinder Singh. Next Steps?

Post by vweeks » Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:54 pm

noajthan wrote:
vweeks wrote:Hello

I arrived in Ireland with my British spouse 1 month ago.

...

We honestly have no idea what is the next step in the immigration process.

...

ANY help is apreciated.
This may give you some idea of steps to follow:
eea-route-applications/eea2-surinder-si ... t=surinder
Thank you. I have been following this for reference; however now that I am at the PPS step...I am being told that our joint tenancy agreement and passports are not sufficient.

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Re: Surrinder Singh. Next Steps?

Post by kunfayakun » Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:00 pm

Didn't you go with your British spouse? and show the marriage certificate?
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Re: Surrinder Singh. Next Steps?

Post by vweeks » Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:19 pm

kunfayakun wrote:Didn't you go with your British spouse? and show the marriage certificate?
Yes I did. And I had my marriage certificate.

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Re: Surrinder Singh. Next Steps?

Post by kunfayakun » Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:30 pm

They can't refuse your pps application as you brought all the required documents, and did they accept your british spouse pps application?
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Re: Surrinder Singh. Next Steps?

Post by vweeks » Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:34 pm

kunfayakun wrote:They can't refuse your pps application as you brought all the required documents, and did they accept your british spouse pps application?

He has a PPS number (dual citizenship British/Irish)

I emailed the dublin office for clarification.

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Re: Surrinder Singh. Next Steps?

Post by kunfayakun » Wed Oct 07, 2015 7:47 pm

Oh I see But pps number is not compulsory for the EU1 application, they refused our pps application 3 times :) that is how they are, so you can still make your application without it..
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Re: Surrinder Singh. Next Steps?

Post by vweeks » Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:05 pm

kunfayakun wrote:Oh I see But pps number is not compulsory for the EU1 application, they refused our pps application 3 times :) that is how they are, so you can still make your application without it..
Oh thanks.Did you register with garda before you sent in your EU1 application?

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Re: Surrinder Singh. Next Steps?

Post by kunfayakun » Fri Oct 09, 2015 1:04 am

No I didn't and it's not like that, you know once you send your eu1 application they will return your original documents and a letter to take garda for registration (GNIB card). without their letter you won't be able to get GNIB card :) so not to worry about it and prepare your documents for your application..
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Re: Surrinder Singh. Next Steps?

Post by Aaron-Law » Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:13 am

Hi VWeeks,

PPSN is just a formal document used by the Treaty rights Department as an item to show that you have been working / claiming any funds from the state.
However; the welfare department nor the PPS issuance officer can ask for a document showing your immigration status/ visa for the issuance of a PPSN.
If they do and refuse to grant you a PPSN, "POLITELY" request them to give you the reason in writing. Once you have the reasons of refusal you can complain against this document/ letter.
Leading to which they will invite you over and issue a PPSN.

Regarding your EU1 application, you can send the application without the PPSN.
I have noticed that you've stated that you have a job offer. How did that come into place?
As you'd need "Working permission" before starting employment in Ireland.
I would suggest that you send the application and then, when you receive the letter/ application acknowledgement from the treaty rights desk, which may state your working rights if any, would be able to undertake the job offer.

I hope this helps. Good luck.

Thank you,
Regards,

Aaron.


Regarding your EU1 application, you can apply for that without the PPSN.

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