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If you are an Irish citizen and resident in Ireland, European freedom of movement of persons regulations (Directive 2004/38/EC), does not apply to you.injasuti wrote:I'm a recently naturalised Irish citizen and my two dependent sons have had their applications for permanent residence refused on the basis that "they are dependents of an Irish national" and "not a family member of an EU citizen as defined by the Regulations".
This sounds like nonsense to me - can someone explaing this to me?
Are they under 18 years of age?injasuti wrote:I'm a recently naturalised Irish citizen and my two dependent sons have had their applications for permanent residence refused on the basis that "they are dependents of an Irish national" and "not a family member of an EU citizen as defined by the Regulations".
This sounds like nonsense to me - can someone explaing this to me?
its even sadder when you read someone's comments and it seems clear that some people, who have probably spent all their live speeching the english language, have difficulty understanding the english language and serious difficulties in read and understanding an author's post in FULL before commenting.martind wrote:Actually walrusgrumble, you sound like someone who makes empty threats in an attempt to shut up criticism. Take it from an Irish American who now lives in the UK. Astartes has a right to free speech, and your attitude is undemocratic. Your attempts to threaten him because of his opinions are beyond ridiculous. Imagine the US trying to censor the rubbish "Team America" because it is "defamatory". Most Irish newspapers say much worse things about the US than what Astartes (rightly or wrongly) has been saying here about Ireland. Your excessive reaction does smack of low self-esteem.walrusgumble wrote: You do realise what you are saying is over generalising and deflamatory, with hints of absolute beloved. every one else is annoyed by the way they are treated but at least they can intelligently discuss their problems.
if people actually belived you, you would be on your way to inciting hatred which my dear boy is a punishable offence. last i saw europe have not being fining ireland.
i recommend that you check out european barometers, its funny casue the european union and transparency international consider ireland to be in the top table for least corrupt countries in the world.
you might need to note, that it was the irish courts who sent the cases to europe. it was the irish courts who have and will continue to have no problem ruling against ireland when its out of line
Whatever you think of his opinions, you can't shut him down without addressing his arguments. Childish claims of "defamation" and equating criticism with crime put you in a bad light.
Your rants don't help the image of Ireland, and sadden me as an Irish American. I never imagined that Ireland would do to foreigners precisely what others did to Irish immigrants not that long ago. One always learns new things about human nature.
About corruption... Bertie Ahern is under investigation for multiple corruption cases. Transparency International doesn't measure corruption but the national perception of corruption -- it simply says that people in Ireland don't have much problem with their government being corrupt, i.e. they are used to it. It's like the famous fact that Nigerians have the highest happiness self-estimation despite the situation in their country. I know few Irishmen who don't complain continuously that their leaders receive brown envelopes.
http://www.immigrantcouncil.ie/newslett ... .php?id=75Last Friday, the High Court in Ireland delivered its judgement in the case of John Tagni v the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform, where a judicial review was sought on this issue. The applicant is represented by Brophy Solicitors.
Judge John Edwards found that the six-month time frame allowed under EU law for the Minister to decide an application was mandatory in all cases. The judge found that, even where the Minister is uncertain about the nature of an application but the applicant has provided all the required documentation, the residence card must be granted within the six month period. A residence card can be revoked in cases of fraud.
While the judge also stated that there was no time limit in respect of reviews of decisions to refuse an application for a residence card, a period of consideration of more than three months would generally constitute an unreasonable delay. The EC is currently dealing with a number of complaints from people who have been waiting more than a year for a final decision on their application for a residence card.
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