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Re: PAKISTAN UK SPOUSE VISA APPEALS

Post by rosie.x » Fri Feb 12, 2016 8:29 pm

I must mention that @raymandosnr has been a great help throughout this process.
May Allah swt reward you for your help and efforts.

@stillwaiting your always in my duas. Especially for the sake of ur little boy. I pray that your spouse will join you soon inshallah.


And just to mention ive had an email stating my user fees will be refunded.
Documents submitted at ISB: 23/06/15
Visa refused: 18/09/15
Review & appeal submitted: 25/09/15
Payment taken: 09/10/15
Review deadline date: 15/02/16


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Re: PAKISTAN UK SPOUSE VISA APPEALS

Post by stillwaiting123 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 8:31 pm

rosie.x wrote:I must mention that @raymandosnr has been a great help throughout this process.
May Allah swt reward you for your help and efforts.

@stillwaiting your always in my duas. Especially for the sake of ur little boy. I pray that your spouse will join you soon inshallah.


And just to mention ive had an email stating my user fees will be refunded.

Thankyou and hope your husband arrives quickly xx
1st App:10.06.14-Refused 21.11.14
2nd App:04.02.15-Refused 22.04.15

Appealed:19.05.15-Review Deadline:27.10.15
Court Date:02.09.16

3rd App:
Bio:29.04.16 (priority)
HO enquiry:16.05.16
Processed:17.05.16
Call:20.05.16
Collected:23.05.16
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Re: PAKISTAN UK SPOUSE VISA APPEALS

Post by MrsSUA » Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:28 pm

Hi

I'm in need of help and advice.

I applied for my husband's spouse visa in November 2015, iit was refused on 19 January 2016 .

Reason for refusal: Not satisfied relationship is genuine as I only provided 5 month's of WhatsApp chat history along with call records, money transfer receipts and wedding photos.

I then provided full 14 months of WhatsApp chat history and more recent call records.

Solicitor advised he has sent this off to Sheffield again for reconsideration. The appeal has also been lodged in the 10 February.

Can anyone advise what may happen next?

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Re: PAKISTAN UK SPOUSE VISA APPEALS

Post by algeria 222 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:03 pm

assalamoalikoum brothers and sisters
visa app submited on 12/04/2015
refused on 15/06/2015
appeal loadged on 29/06/2015
payments taken on 05/07/2015
deadline 23/11/2015
bundle recieved on 30/10/2015
still waiting for court date
does anyone know how long is gonna take , im i close to court date ? please help

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Re: PAKISTAN UK SPOUSE VISA APPEALS

Post by stillwaiting123 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:05 pm

MrsSUA wrote:Hi

I'm in need of help and advice.

I applied for my husband's spouse visa in November 2015, iit was refused on 19 January 2016 .

Reason for refusal: Not satisfied relationship is genuine as I only provided 5 month's of WhatsApp chat history along with call records, money transfer receipts and wedding photos.

I then provided full 14 months of WhatsApp chat history and more recent call records.

Solicitor advised he has sent this off to Sheffield again for reconsideration. The appeal has also been lodged in the 10 February.

Can anyone advise what may happen next?

Salam sis

Sorry about your recent refusal!
Firstly it is crucial u submit enough evidence...

However now that u have lodged your appeal, the fee will be taken out of your account then 6/7 weeks time u will recieve your review deadline (which is 15 weeks long)

Hope this helps x
1st App:10.06.14-Refused 21.11.14
2nd App:04.02.15-Refused 22.04.15

Appealed:19.05.15-Review Deadline:27.10.15
Court Date:02.09.16

3rd App:
Bio:29.04.16 (priority)
HO enquiry:16.05.16
Processed:17.05.16
Call:20.05.16
Collected:23.05.16
Alhamdulilah

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Re: PAKISTAN UK SPOUSE VISA APPEALS

Post by stillwaiting123 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:06 pm

algeria 222 wrote:assalamoalikoum brothers and sisters
visa app submited on 12/04/2015
refused on 15/06/2015
appeal loadged on 29/06/2015
payments taken on 05/07/2015
deadline 23/11/2015
bundle recieved on 30/10/2015
still waiting for court date
does anyone know how long is gonna take , im i close to court date ? please help
Check out my timline brother

My deadline was 27/10/15
I Recieved a court date today for 02/09/16
1st App:10.06.14-Refused 21.11.14
2nd App:04.02.15-Refused 22.04.15

Appealed:19.05.15-Review Deadline:27.10.15
Court Date:02.09.16

3rd App:
Bio:29.04.16 (priority)
HO enquiry:16.05.16
Processed:17.05.16
Call:20.05.16
Collected:23.05.16
Alhamdulilah

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Re: PAKISTAN UK SPOUSE VISA APPEALS

Post by algeria 222 » Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:27 am

stillwaiting123 wrote:
algeria 222 wrote:assalamoalikoum brothers and sisters
visa app submited on 12/04/2015
refused on 15/06/2015
appeal loadged on 29/06/2015
payments taken on 05/07/2015
deadline 23/11/2015
bundle recieved on 30/10/2015
still waiting for court date
does anyone know how long is gonna take , im i close to court date ? please help
Check out my timline brother

My deadline was 27/10/15
I Recieved a court date today for 02/09/16

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Re: PAKISTAN UK SPOUSE VISA APPEALS

Post by algeria 222 » Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:31 am

until september wow , that is a joke .i hope mine will reach me soon
may allah swt make it easy for all ameen

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Re: PAKISTAN UK SPOUSE VISA APPEALS

Post by MGH » Sat Feb 13, 2016 4:19 am

[quote="MrsSUA"]Hi

I'm in need of help and advice.

I applied for my husband's spouse visa in November 2015, iit was refused on 19 January 2016 .

Reason for refusal: Not satisfied relationship is genuine as I only provided 5 month's of WhatsApp chat history along with call records, money transfer receipts and wedding photos.

I then provided full 14 months of WhatsApp chat history and more recent call records.

Hello, sorry to hear of your visa refusal. I was told by my solicitor that any type of evidence such as whatsapp that could be edited has really no weight as far as proving relationship. Where most of our Pakistani community fails is that they don't send greeting cards, i.e Eid cards, birthday cards, Valentine's cards and get well soon cards.Also photos of you and your spouse after the wedding, on days out to parks, restaurants etc, I know that they are only small and petty, however they go a very long way in convincing
The ECO that the relationship is genuine and subsisting.

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Re: PAKISTAN UK SPOUSE VISA APPEALS

Post by farrukh786786 » Sat Feb 13, 2016 3:56 pm

@binubinu
Sister any good news ??

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Re: PAKISTAN UK SPOUSE VISA APPEALS

Post by asif_sharif » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:38 pm

got the letter my case isnt going to be expediated dunno when i will get a court date :cry: :(
married 21/02/2014
21/04/15 DOCUMENTS submitted
22/04/15 reaches BHC islamabad
REFUSED 10/07/2015
appeal 31/07/2015
payment 14th August
review deadline 24th December 2015
COURT DATE 18TH JANUARY 2017
entry allowed
wife arriving 29th April 2017

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Re: PAKISTAN UK SPOUSE VISA APPEALS

Post by MrsSUA » Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:12 pm

Thank you guys

I got married on 11.10.2014 so have not been back since as I changed jobs when I came back but going in April.

I did provide everything except for any photos taken after the wedding as I only had 5 days left. Although I only provides 4-5 months of chat history but my solicitor said that shouldn't be an issue.

He said along with the appeal he's also sending a reconsideration request and they should reply within a week with their decision.

No idea what to expect now..looks like they just refuse cases based on nothing or any valid reasons.

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Re: PAKISTAN UK SPOUSE VISA APPEALS

Post by MGH » Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:21 pm

MrsSUA wrote:Thank you guys

I got married on 11.10.2014 so have not been back since as I changed jobs when I came back but going in April.

I did provide everything except for any photos taken after the wedding as I only had 5 days left. Although I only provides 4-5 months of chat history but my solicitor said that shouldn't be an issue.

He said along with the appeal he's also sending a reconsideration request and they should reply within a week with their decision.

No idea what to expect now..looks like they just refuse cases based on nothing or any valid reasons.

Any media such as whatsapp viber they can be edited has no weight at all, photos after the wedding on outings to parks, restaurants, cinemas. Greeting cards for birthdays, anniversaries, get well soon cards, eid and valentines cards are very good in. Convincing the ECO that the marriage is genuine and subsisting. Unfortunately the Pakistani community don't send these.

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Re: PAKISTAN UK SPOUSE VISA APPEALS

Post by binubinu » Sat Feb 13, 2016 8:21 pm

farrukh786786 wrote:@binubinu
Sister any good news ??

Salaam, there is no news! I haven't heard anything back yet, I am going to email my MP on Monday (15/02/16 my review deadline) because he said he can only help after this date. So let's see what he can do.
Have you heard anything regarding your appeal yet?

@stillwaiting

I am really sorry to hear how far away your court date is, its ridiculous. I am in a very similar situation to you too, 2 visa refusals, an appeal for which I don't when I will hear a decision on and I am working & raising 2 year old son on my own too.

I will remember you in my duas, In Sha Allah if you reapply, Allah will grant your husband a visa very very soon.
2nd Visa Application: 23/04/2015
Visa Refused: 07/09/2015
Appealed Lodged: 30/09/2015
Review Deadline: 15/02/2016
Review Overturned: 22/02/2016
Call in letter received via email: 21/03/2016
Passport submitted to VAC Islamabad: 07/04/2016

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Re: PAKISTAN UK SPOUSE VISA APPEALS

Post by farrukh786786 » Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:03 pm

@binubinu
In sha Allah u will hear soon and on Monday In sha ALLAH .
Did you emailed at shieffield.islamabad about enquiring how much more weeks they need to get it done ? Yes,do email your MP .Hope due to his involvement you will get prompt response.May Allah grant u success .
No ,sister I got no update unfortunately .If u r still in queue then I'm really far behind indeed as our MPs are not willing to help us both .:(

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Re: PAKISTAN UK SPOUSE VISA APPEALS

Post by stillwaiting123 » Sat Feb 13, 2016 10:49 pm

binubinu wrote:
farrukh786786 wrote:@binubinu
Sister any good news ??

Salaam, there is no news! I haven't heard anything back yet, I am going to email my MP on Monday (15/02/16 my review deadline) because he said he can only help after this date. So let's see what he can do.
Have you heard anything regarding your appeal yet?

@stillwaiting

I am really sorry to hear how far away your court date is, its ridiculous. I am in a very similar situation to you too, 2 visa refusals, an appeal for which I don't when I will hear a decision on and I am working & raising 2 year old son on my own too.

I will remember you in my duas, In Sha Allah if you reapply, Allah will grant your husband a visa very very soon.

Thankyou for your kind words and inshallah i will do dua for u too! It is very hard especially with a young child.

I hope to reapply in april and inshallah hope u get a date asap x
1st App:10.06.14-Refused 21.11.14
2nd App:04.02.15-Refused 22.04.15

Appealed:19.05.15-Review Deadline:27.10.15
Court Date:02.09.16

3rd App:
Bio:29.04.16 (priority)
HO enquiry:16.05.16
Processed:17.05.16
Call:20.05.16
Collected:23.05.16
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Re: PAKISTAN UK SPOUSE VISA APPEALS

Post by i.need.help » Sat Feb 13, 2016 11:38 pm

MrsSUA wrote:Thank you guys

I got married on 11.10.2014 so have not been back since as I changed jobs when I came back but going in April.

I did provide everything except for any photos taken after the wedding as I only had 5 days left. Although I only provides 4-5 months of chat history but my solicitor said that shouldn't be an issue.

He said along with the appeal he's also sending a reconsideration request and they should reply within a week with their decision.

No idea what to expect now..looks like they just refuse cases based on nothing or any valid reasons.
Providing 4-5 months chat history, when you've been married for a year (maybe even known your partner for longer) could very much be an issue.

You'll be very lucky if you do hear back within a week. It seems your solicitor may not be so experienced in spouse visa applications.
TIMELINE

Spouse Visa (Entry Clearance) granted on 20-02-15
FLR-M (Extension) granted on 24-08-17
ILR (SET-M) not due until 2020

Views and opinions provided by myself, should not be relied upon as professional advice.

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Re: PAKISTAN UK SPOUSE VISA APPEALS

Post by worried1 » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:46 am

I appealed in december 2015
Payment was taken January 2016
I have recievecd no confirmation of
Payment being taken or any other
Confirmtion from the court
Who do i contact for an update please

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Re: PAKISTAN UK SPOUSE VISA APPEALS

Post by MGH » Sun Feb 14, 2016 8:15 am

worried1 wrote:I appealed in december 2015
Payment was taken January 2016
I have recievecd no confirmation of
Payment being taken or any other
Confirmtion from the court
Who do i contact for an update please
Hi, it's far too early to contact anybody for an update. Your solicitor should get a date in which your case should be reviewed. You need to be patient.

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Re: PAKISTAN UK SPOUSE VISA APPEALS

Post by worried1 » Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:15 am

MGH wrote:
worried1 wrote:I appealed in december 2015
Payment was taken January 2016
I have recievecd no confirmation of
Payment being taken or any other
Confirmtion from the court
Who do i contact for an update please
Hi, it's far too early to contact anybody for an update. Your solicitor should get a date in which your case should be reviewed. You need to be patient.
How long till update

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Re: PAKISTAN UK SPOUSE VISA APPEALS

Post by stillwaiting123 » Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:16 am

worried1 wrote:
MGH wrote:
worried1 wrote:I appealed in december 2015
Payment was taken January 2016
I have recievecd no confirmation of
Payment being taken or any other
Confirmtion from the court
Who do i contact for an update please
Hi, it's far too early to contact anybody for an update. Your solicitor should get a date in which your case should be reviewed. You need to be patient.
How long till update
U should get your deadline in 6/7 weeks time
1st App:10.06.14-Refused 21.11.14
2nd App:04.02.15-Refused 22.04.15

Appealed:19.05.15-Review Deadline:27.10.15
Court Date:02.09.16

3rd App:
Bio:29.04.16 (priority)
HO enquiry:16.05.16
Processed:17.05.16
Call:20.05.16
Collected:23.05.16
Alhamdulilah

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Re: PAKISTAN UK SPOUSE VISA APPEALS

Post by MGH » Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:34 am

worried1 wrote:
MGH wrote:
worried1 wrote:I appealed in december 2015
Payment was taken January 2016
I have recievecd no confirmation of
Payment being taken or any other
Confirmtion from the court
Who do i contact for an update please
Hi, it's far too early to contact anybody for an update. Your solicitor should get a date in which your case should be reviewed. You need to be patient.
How long till update
You should receive a notice of pending shortly, this will have a date on which is essentially the deadline for the ECM to review your case and any grounds of appeal. This is usually around 15 weeks from date of appeal submission. From what members on the forum have been posting it seems that these deadlines are not been adhered to.If the ECM decides to overturn the original decision you will receive a call letter to submit passport. If he decides to uphold the original refusal decision your case will be listed for court. My court hearing date was exactly 1 year after my application was submitted. I've been told that was pretty quick, some people have been waiting much longer for a court hearing

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Re: PAKISTAN UK SPOUSE VISA APPEALS

Post by MGH » Sun Feb 14, 2016 12:05 pm

worried1 wrote:I appealed in december 2015
Payment was taken January 2016
I have recievecd no confirmation of
Payment being taken or any other
Confirmtion from the court
Who do i contact for an update please

You should receive a notice of pending shortly, this will have a date on which is essentially the deadline for the ECM to review your case and any grounds of appeal. This is usually around 15 weeks from date of appeal submission. From what members on the forum have been posting it seems that these deadlines are not been adhered to.If the ECM decides to overturn the original decision you will receive a call letter to submit passport. If he decides to uphold the original refusal decision your case will be listed for court. My court hearing date was exactly 1 year after my application was submitted. I've been told that was pretty quick, some people have been waiting much longer for a court hearing
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Out of my 3 reasons for refusal one was overturned at the review stage by an ECM, the other 2 were upheld and later overturned by a first tier tribal judge in court.

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Re: PAKISTAN UK SPOUSE VISA APPEALS

Post by farrukh786786 » Sun Feb 14, 2016 1:20 pm

@MrsSUA
Sorry to hear about it.Could u please confirm me how your solicitor is sending reconsideration request as far as I know its not allowed for immigrants who have RIGHT TO APPEAL OR ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW .
So its likely to be refused said by most of Solicitors.
u can check the official page for reconsideration request it also says the same.

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Re: PAKISTAN UK SPOUSE VISA APPEALS

Post by MGH » Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:15 pm

i.need.help wrote:
MrsSUA wrote:Thank you guys

I got married on 11.10.2014 so have not been back since as I changed jobs when I came back but going in April.

I did provide everything except for any photos taken after the wedding as I only had 5 days left. Although I only provides 4-5 months of chat history but my solicitor said that shouldn't be an issue.

He said along with the appeal he's also sending a reconsideration request and they should reply within a week with their decision.

No idea what to expect now..looks like they just refuse cases based on nothing or any valid reasons.
Providing 4-5 months chat history, when you've been married for a year (maybe even known your partner for longer) could very much be an issue.

You'll be very lucky if you do hear back within a week. It seems your solicitor may not be so experienced in spouse visa applications.[/quote

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