Every EU migrant can stay in UK after Brexit (???)

It has been widely reported today that "all EU nationals currently living in Britain will be allowed to stay following Brexit, after the Home Office discovered that five in six could not legally be deported.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10 ... iven-amne/

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ter-brexit

I can't find any official links to back this up. I have the feeling the government is playing with EU immigrants and giving mixed messages (see Amber Rudd and her proposal to list foreign workers) just to test the waters with the public opinion.

Why would there be any links if nothing is official.

And its probably the Gov UK web admin guy's day off.

Although C_abinet ministers are privately giving assurances that they will all be allowed to stay in the country after Brexit, the Home Office is still working on a way to identify the exact number of Europeans living in the UK and establish how long they have been here. The amnesty plan is in its infancy and will raise fears that EU migrants could begin travelling to the UK in large numbers before Brexit

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rooibos wrote:It has been widely reported today that "all EU nationals currently living in Britain will be allowed to stay following Brexit, after the Home Office discovered that five in six could not legally be deported.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10 ... iven-amne/

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ter-brexit

I can't find any official links to back this up. I have the feeling the government is playing with EU immigrants and giving mixed messages (see Amber Rudd and her proposal to list foreign workers) just to test the waters with the public opinion.

Well we have a senior Government Minister saying EU migrant will be used as a Negotiating card.

It is important to note that what the papers are publishing is not actually government policy, it is the product of an Home Office research.

We have seen the government double and triple down on migrant and how they intend to make life as difficult for them as possible and for people who dare to employ them, irrespective of whether they are in the UK lawfully , settled or not.

We are not talking about illegal migrant, but legal migrants with rights to take up employment.

I suspect this is a means of calming EU leaders anger at what they heard last week.

Rights to stay doesn't mean rights to work. For example, the Permanent residence card has to be renewed every 10 years and submitting the documents again. So why does the HO call it a Permanent Residence if it has an expiry date? Now, they know that 1.5 million British who live in Europe would be at risk, if their hosting countries have decided to treat them in the same way their citizens will be treated in the UK. In the future, most likely the UK will negotiate a single deal with every country in Europe based on their importance to the UK and how many British citizens are living there.

Manchester171 wrote:Rights to stay doesn't mean rights to work. For example, the Permanent residence card has to be renewed every 10 years and submitting the documents again. So why does the HO call it a Permanent Residence if it has an expiry date? Now, they know that 1.5 million British who live in Europe would be at risk, if their hosting countries have decided to treat them in the same way their citizens will be treated in the UK. In the future, most likely the UK will negotiate a single deal with every country in Europe based on their importance to the UK and how many British citizens are living there.

Its not HO calling anything PR, its the free movement Directive that defines what PR is.

The card expires not the PR status, (just like a UK driving license expires and needs renewal).

Manchester171 wrote:Rights to stay doesn't mean rights to work.

Nor a right to welfare, free NHS, free education or social housing anymore either.

We already know that for the last 5 years, because of the ever increasing massive rises in the UK's annual welfare bill, the UK have been recording where welfare claimants were born. MAC has already reported on the billions per year the UK's welfare state is having to give to "foreign borns" via Tax Credits (for those of working age who don't work enough to keep their own families).

We also know that when the UK allows people to stay, outside the rules, that can mean they have to pay when they use the NHS. i.e.the elderly SA citizens with heart problems, who entered as a visitor but had really planned to join her family who had settled in the UK.

The UK did say four months ago that all this is part of the negoitiations. Tusk threatening is just showing the British how desparate Poland and maybe some other EEA countires are, and how heavily they rely on the British to provide for their citizens. The UK will already will know this through their records and now they know the EU is aware of this too. It's not just the loss of the UK's money to the EU budget, that will hit the EU.

They UK also said months ago that there may have already been a cut-off date as they knew there would be a rush to get to the UK before they closed their EU immigration doors. People who entered after 23 June, know the risk they took.