ILR SET_O_11 - Section 4 - Clarification

Dear Wonderful people,

I understand this question may have been asked few times in the past but I still do not have full claririty so would appreciate your help:

Section 4 - Knowledge of language and life in the UK

For English Requirement

Do I need to either
Get a Certificate from UK NARIC confirming the equivalent level of my degree and official letter from university...
OR
Appear for ESOL test that would suffice the English Language Requirement

I have submitted my Master degree certificate on previous occasions as a proof of Qualification and English requirement.

I am sorry it is slightly confusing so your reply would be highly appreciated.

Dear Wonderful people,

I understand this question may have been asked few times in the past but I still do not have full claririty so would appreciate your help:

Section 4 - Knowledge of language and life in the UK

For English Requirement

Do I need to either
Get a Certificate from UK NARIC confirming the equivalent level of my degree and official letter from university...
OR
Appear for ESOL test that would suffice the English Language Requirement

I have submitted my Master degree certificate on previous occasions as a proof of Qualification and English requirement.

I am sorry it is slightly confusing so your reply would be highly appreciated.

if your degree obtained in UK then you don't need extra NORIC confirmation. Otherwise you must provide it.

Thank you SniperV
Just to clarify this means UK NARIC is compulsory to validate the education?? it has nothing to do with English requirement and ESOL B1 wouldn't fix the English requirement, please clarify

Sorry for the push and I understand there is no obligation to reply on priority.
May I please request as this is quite urgent for me and understanding the issue is important for me.

Should I go for UK NARIC or ESOL English test or None of these are required as degree has been used in the past.

Thanks Once again

As you have submitted degree in your initial application you do not need to send it again......and UK NAARIC and ESOL is irrelevant......

Thanks

Thank you for the prompt reply sunymalik
how do I complete section 4.3

Life in the UK test pass
And either
• A speaking and listening qualification at level B1 or above
from the Secure English Language Test (SELT) list (Go to
question 4.5 below);

OR
• An academic qualification deemed by UK NARIC to meet the
recognised standard of a Bachelor’s or Master’s degree or
PhD in the United Kingdom and:
˗ UK NARIC has confirmed that the qualification was
taught or researched in English; or
˗ the qualification was taught or researched in the UK
or a majority English speaking country (other than
Canada); OR
▪ You are a national of a majority English speaking country
(as in the list at https://www.gov.uk/english-language)

[quote="omnamah"]Thank you for the prompt reply sunymalik
how do I complete section 4.3

[b]Life in the UK test pass (YES)
And either
• A speaking and listening qualification at level B1 or above
from the Secure English Language Test (SELT) list (Go to
question 4.5 below);

OR
• An academic qualification deemed by UK NARIC to meet the
recognised standard of a Bachelor’s or Master’s degree or
PhD in the United Kingdom and:
˗ UK NARIC has confirmed that the qualification was
taught or researched in English; or
˗ the qualification was taught or researched in the UK
or a majority English speaking country (other than
Canada); OR (YES)
▪ You are a national of a majority English speaking country
(as in the list at https://www.gov.uk/english-language)[/quote]

sorry sunymalik.. May be I am not getting the point:

My degree was not taught or researched in the UK or English speaking country so I am not sure if below is applicable for me. My degree was earlier recognized on PBS

˗ the qualification was taught or researched in the UK
or a majority English speaking country (other than
Canada); OR (YES)

Exemptions if you’re applying to settle
You don’t need to prove your knowledge of English if you’re applying as:

• a victim of domestic violence as the partner or spouse of a British citizen or someone settled in the UK
• the partner or spouse of a person who has died who was either a British citizen or someone settled in
the UK
• an adult dependent relative between 18 and 64 of someone who is present and settled in the UK, is a
refugee or has humanitarian protection
• a refugee living in the UK
• someone living in the UK with discretionary leave
• someone living in the UK for with humanitarian protection
• someone who has permission to stay in the UK as a retired person of independent means
• a Commonwealth citizen on discharge from HM Forces, including Gurkhas
• a highly skilled migrant applying under the terms of the highly skilled migrant program (HSMP)
judicial review and your dependants
• someone in exceptional circumstances, eg as an orphan, widow or over-age dependent

Team,

Please clarify my doubt.
Appreciate your help.

Hey guys,

I just found below on 34 page for Knowledge of language and life in the UK.
does this mean UK NARIC or Test is not required?

This page tells you how a person can meet the speaking and listening part of the knowledge
of language and life in the UK (KoLL) requirement by having a degree taught in English.
They must also have passed the Life in the UK test, see related link.
They do not need to show a formal speaking and listening qualification. The qualification
must be academic (not vocational or professional) and deemed by UK National Academic
Recognition Information Centre (NARIC) to meet the recognised standard of a Bachelor’s or
Master’s degree or PhD in the UK and to have been taught in English or delivered in a
majority English language speaking country (excluding Canada).
Before 6 April 2016, a PBS online points calculator printout, showing 10 points has been
awarded for English language could be submitted, together with the original degree
certificate, to satisfy the English language element of the Knowledge of Language and Life
in the UK (KOLL) requirement.
The points based calculator was turned off on 6 April 2016. An official statement from UK
NARIC must be obtained before applying. Further information is provided on
www.naric.org.uk/visasandnationality.
If we have previously accepted a degree qualification as meeting the requirements for an
earlier application, and leave was granted, we will not need additional confirmation from
NARIC. If the qualification has not previously been used for an immigration application, or
the previous application was refused, the applicant must obtain confirmation from NARIC
that it meets the relevant criteria.
Degrees obtained in the UK are acceptable without UK NARIC assessment.
If the applicant has a degree that was taught or researched in a majority English speaking
country (excluding Canada) they must provide:

Dear Moderators, Senior Member of the team,

Please help me understanding this clause 4.3.

Thanks

Its a humble request please help me understanding 4.3 of application part/

Thanks

Team Helpers,

Hope my question is not stupid as there are so many views but no one seems to replying
Please could you advise if UK NARIC OR English test request is required for ILR if previous applicatio was approved on the same Master Degree.

Also how do I complete section 4.3.

Thanks

Hi all,

Just wanted to clarify if English test or UK NARIC is a mandatory requirement for ILR if using the same qualification which had qualified for both english and Competitive Master Degree on PBS.

Thanks so much

omnamah wrote:Hey guys,

I just found below on 34 page for Knowledge of language and life in the UK.
does this mean UK NARIC or Test is not required?

This page tells you how a person can meet the speaking and listening part of the knowledge
of language and life in the UK (KoLL) requirement by having a degree taught in English.
They must also have passed the Life in the UK test, see related link.
They do not need to show a formal speaking and listening qualification. The qualification
must be academic (not vocational or professional) and deemed by UK National Academic
Recognition Information Centre (NARIC) to meet the recognised standard of a Bachelor’s or
Master’s degree or PhD in the UK and to have been taught in English or delivered in a
majority English language speaking country (excluding Canada).
Before 6 April 2016, a PBS online points calculator printout, showing 10 points has been
awarded for English language could be submitted, together with the original degree
certificate, to satisfy the English language element of the Knowledge of Language and Life
in the UK (KOLL) requirement.
The points based calculator was turned off on 6 April 2016. An official statement from UK
NARIC must be obtained before applying. Further information is provided on
http://www.naric.org.uk/visasandnationality.
If we have previously accepted a degree qualification as meeting the requirements for an
earlier application, and leave was granted, we will not need additional confirmation from
NARIC. If the qualification has not previously been used for an immigration application, or
the previous application was refused, the applicant must obtain confirmation from NARIC
that it meets the relevant criteria.
Degrees obtained in the UK are acceptable without UK NARIC assessment.
If the applicant has a degree that was taught or researched in a majority English speaking
country (excluding Canada) they must provide:

You answered your own question with the above extract.

If you obtained the degree in UK then you don't need to provide NORIC confirmation letter.

You dont need NARIC if degree was taught in UK or from majority english language speaking country (only from the list).

Otherwise, it does explicitly state that you need confirmation that the degree was taught or researched in English.

Hi Char,

Thank you for your reply.
Just to clarify my degree was taught outside UK but I did qualify Tier 1 which was valid on PBS earlier.
If I don't need to go for UK NARIC or English test, which option should I select in 4.3

Life in the UK test pass
And either
• A speaking and listening qualification at level B1 or above
from the Secure English Language Test (SELT) list (Go to
question 4.5 below); OR
• An academic qualification deemed by UK NARIC to meet the
recognised standard of a Bachelor’s or Master’s degree or
PhD in the United Kingdom and:
˗ UK NARIC has confirmed that the qualification was
taught or researched in English; or
˗ the qualification was taught or researched in the UK
or a majority English speaking country (other than
Canada); OR
▪ You are a national of a majority English speaking country
(as in the list at https://www.gov.uk/english-language)

Thanks you for your reply. My degree was not taught in the UK.
I found below quote from Koll guidance and as per below neither English test or UK NARIC is required.. I am very confused.

This page tells you how a person can meet the speaking and listening part of the knowledge
of language and life in the UK (KoLL) requirement by having a degree taught in English.
They must also have passed the Life in the UK test, see related link.
They do not need to show a formal speaking and listening qualification. The qualification
must be academic (not vocational or professional) and deemed by UK National Academic
Recognition Information Centre (NARIC) to meet the recognised standard of a Bachelor’s or
Master’s degree or PhD in the UK and to have been taught in English or delivered in a
majority English language speaking country (excluding Canada).
Before 6 April 2016, a PBS online points calculator printout, showing 10 points has been
awarded for English language could be submitted, together with the original degree
certificate, to satisfy the English language element of the Knowledge of Language and Life
in the UK (KOLL) requirement.
The points based calculator was turned off on 6 April 2016. An official statement from UK
NARIC must be obtained before applying. Further information is provided on
http://www.naric.org.uk/visasandnationality.
If we have previously accepted a degree qualification as meeting the requirements for an
earlier application, and leave was granted, we will not need additional confirmation from
NARIC. If the qualification has not previously been used for an immigration application, or
the previous application was refused, the applicant must obtain confirmation from NARIC
that it meets the relevant criteria.
Degrees obtained in the UK are acceptable without UK NARIC assessment.
If the applicant has a degree that was taught or researched in a majority English speaking
country (excluding Canada) they must provide:

Dear Char,

Please could you clarify as whole situation has confused me.
Thank you in anticipation.

Best

My ILR is due very soon and I would be most grateful to you if you could please clarify my doubt;

is English test or UK NARIC a mandatory requirement for ILR in case where applicant is using the same qualification which was used in initial application for Tier 1 and were recognised on then PBS.

Just to add my degree was not taught in the UK.

If above is not required since I satisfied the english requirement with initial application please could you advise Section 4 of application form, which option I should choose for 4.3?

Thank you very much in advance.

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CR001 wrote:

omnamah wrote:Hey guys,

I just found below on 34 page for Knowledge of language and life in the UK.
does this mean UK NARIC or Test is not required?

This page tells you how a person can meet the speaking and listening part of the knowledge
of language and life in the UK (KoLL) requirement by having a degree taught in English.
They must also have passed the Life in the UK test, see related link.
They do not need to show a formal speaking and listening qualification. The qualification
must be academic (not vocational or professional) and deemed by UK National Academic
Recognition Information Centre (NARIC) to meet the recognised standard of a Bachelor’s or
Master’s degree or PhD in the UK and to have been taught in English or delivered in a
majority English language speaking country (excluding Canada).
Before 6 April 2016, a PBS online points calculator printout, showing 10 points has been
awarded for English language could be submitted, together with the original degree
certificate, to satisfy the English language element of the Knowledge of Language and Life
in the UK (KOLL) requirement.
The points based calculator was turned off on 6 April 2016. An official statement from UK
NARIC must be obtained before applying. Further information is provided on
http://www.naric.org.uk/visasandnationality.
If we have previously accepted a degree qualification as meeting the requirements for an
earlier application, and leave was granted, we will not need additional confirmation from
NARIC. If the qualification has not previously been used for an immigration application, or
the previous application was refused, the applicant must obtain confirmation from NARIC
that it meets the relevant criteria.
Degrees obtained in the UK are acceptable without UK NARIC assessment.
If the applicant has a degree that was taught or researched in a majority English speaking
country (excluding Canada) they must provide:

You answered your own question with the above extract.

omnamah wrote:is English test or UK NARIC a mandatory requirement for ILR in case where applicant is using the same qualification which was used in initial application for Tier 1 and were recognised on then PBS.

Just to add my degree was not taught in the UK.

Knowledge of language and life in the UK wrote:If we have previously accepted a degree qualification as meeting the requirements for an
earlier application, and leave was granted, we will not need additional confirmation from
NARIC. If the qualification has not previously been used for an immigration application, or
the previous application was refused, the applicant must obtain confirmation from NARIC
that it meets the relevant criteria.

omnamah wrote:If above is not required since I satisfied the english requirement with initial application please could you advise Section 4 of application form, which option I should choose for 4.3?

You kindly previously gave the questions and available choices for 4.3. It would have been helpful if you had continued in the same thread instead of opening new topics on the same subject.

If NARIC did not confirm, then you cannot tick 'yes' under the comment 'UK NARIC has confirmed that the qualification was taught or researched in English;...', can you?