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extension visa refused urgent help required

Post by tier1hp » Sun Feb 26, 2017 7:51 am

hi i applied visa in December 2016 and got refusal yesterday. home office did not accept one my employee as his indefinite leave was revoked but he left job from me 2 and half year before so i did not know.
i have other employee who i can claim point i think but i need help.
my situation is that my company have , 1 part time employee 14 month (24 hour every week), 1 part time employee 12 month (24 hour every week), 1 part time employee 8 month (24 hour every week), 1 part time employee 4 month (20 hour each week) and i full time 8 month (30 hour each week).
i read on forum when we allowed for combining part time jobs to make one full time but i dont know if we allowed combine part time with full time. if i combine all hours for part time and full time then i fulfil the requirement but can i do that?
hlp plsssssssssssss

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Re: extension visa refused urgent help required

Post by tier1hp » Sun Feb 26, 2017 7:53 am

ho give option for AR only. what better AR or can i apply new application??
i need to show 2 jobs and combine hours or better if i leave all different jobs and combine hours.
help plsssss

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Re: extension visa refused urgent help required

Post by tier1hp » Sun Feb 26, 2017 8:21 am

plsss tell me what is good in my situation ar or new application and my part time and full time jobs, do they complete the requirement ????????

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Re: extension visa refused urgent help required

Post by tier1in2014 » Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:04 pm

tier1hp wrote:hi i applied visa in December 2016 and got refusal yesterday. home office did not accept one my employee as his indefinite leave was revoked but he left job from me 2 and half year before so i did not know.
i have other employee who i can claim point i think but i need help.
my situation is that my company have , 1 part time employee 14 month (24 hour every week), 1 part time employee 12 month (24 hour every week), 1 part time employee 8 month (24 hour every week), 1 part time employee 4 month (20 hour each week) and i full time 8 month (30 hour each week).
i read on forum when we allowed for combining part time jobs to make one full time but i dont know if we allowed combine part time with full time. if i combine all hours for part time and full time then i fulfil the requirement but can i do that?
hlp plsssssssssssss
Sorry for your ext refusal . was that employee indefinite leave was revoked while working you or after leaving job . If it was revoked while working for you then I think it was your responsibility to check the status but if it was after leaving your company them you might have good chances of AR . Wait for Zimba to reply with the best option for you.
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Re: extension visa refused urgent help required

Post by zimba » Sun Feb 26, 2017 3:05 pm

Was his ILR revoked after he left ?? Then you should be given the points as during the period of employment he was legally settled.

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Re: extension visa refused urgent help required

Post by tier1hp » Sun Feb 26, 2017 5:06 pm

Thank you kap and zimba, its my mistake, my employee had case ongoing when he employed with me and did not tell when his status changed. Ho didnt put deception on my case so i am lucky in that case. I have only confusion about all employees hours which i put in post above. Seeing the forum and other posts i have beleif that my hours fine and my part timer worker and full time hour is complete.
Can someone give suggestion about hour? Better i show all 5 different job and combine hour or show less job title and combine hours? I have categort of before april so i m ok i think.
Zimba and other senior can you confirm about hour? plsssss

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Re: extension visa refused urgent help required

Post by zimba » Sun Feb 26, 2017 5:42 pm

I already gave you the information you need. There has been many many discussions on this and the guide is not quite clear
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Re: extension visa refused urgent help required

Post by tier1in2014 » Sun Feb 26, 2017 5:47 pm

tier1hp wrote:Thank you kap and zimba, its my mistake, my employee had case ongoing when he employed with me and did not tell when his status changed. Ho didnt put deception on my case so i am lucky in that case. I have only confusion about all employees hours which i put in post above. Seeing the forum and other posts i have beleif that my hours fine and my part timer worker and full time hour is complete.
Can someone give suggestion about hour? Better i show all 5 different job and combine hour or show less job title and combine hours? I have categort of before april so i m ok i think.
Zimba and other senior can you confirm about hour? plsssss

In this case you won't have any luck with AR . Better to go for new application . Looking at your employee hrs you have 38 month part time which will be equal to 19 month full time and then another 8 month full time . 27 full time will be more than enough to claim the points . it will be better to put all of them on job table number wise and combine them together .
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Re: extension visa refused urgent help required

Post by tier1hp » Mon Feb 27, 2017 8:24 am

Thanks zimba and Kapoor

So that means i dont need to show only two job role and show different but combine all together

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Re: extension visa refused urgent help required

Post by tier1hp » Mon Feb 27, 2017 8:32 am

Looking other posts, we allowed to combine diffrent jobs together so part time and full time together to combine jobs.

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Re: extension visa refused urgent help required

Post by tier1in2014 » Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:05 pm

Yes you can combine the part time jobs to make one full time job .
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Re: extension visa refused urgent help required

Post by tier1hp » Mon Feb 27, 2017 5:50 pm

Thank you kapoor

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Re: extension visa refused urgent help required

Post by Zafar1947 » Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:32 pm

Hi Kapooinusa,

I have a query from you i hope you can share your view.
First scenario:
Job 1:
8 monts full time (30 hours) - 1st employee
5 months part time (18 hours) - 2nd employee
7 months part time (24 hours) - 3rd employee

Job 2:
12 months part time (24 hours) - 4th employee
8 months part time (24 hours) - 5th employee
6 months part time (24 hours) - 6th employee

Second scenario:
Job 1:
8 monts full time (30 hours) - 1st employee
Job 2:
5 months part time (18 hours) - 2nd employee
Job 3:
7 months part time (24 hours) - 3rd employee

Job 4:
12 months part time (24 hours) - 4th employee

Job 5:
8 months part time (24 hours) - 5th employee

Job 6:
6 months part time (24 hours) - 6th employee

Kapoorinusa,
Are both scenarios accepted by HO?
Can we combine hours in both scenarios?

Please if you can advice on this.

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Re: extension visa refused urgent help required

Post by tier1in2014 » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:10 pm

Zafar1947 wrote:Hi Kapooinusa,

I have a query from you i hope you can share your view.
First scenario:
Job 1:
8 monts full time (30 hours) - 1st employee
5 months part time (18 hours) - 2nd employee
7 months part time (24 hours) - 3rd employee

Job 2:
12 months part time (24 hours) - 4th employee
8 months part time (24 hours) - 5th employee
6 months part time (24 hours) - 6th employee

Second scenario:
Job 1:
8 monts full time (30 hours) - 1st employee
Job 2:
5 months part time (18 hours) - 2nd employee
Job 3:
7 months part time (24 hours) - 3rd employee

Job 4:
12 months part time (24 hours) - 4th employee

Job 5:
8 months part time (24 hours) - 5th employee

Job 6:
6 months part time (24 hours) - 6th employee

Kapoorinusa,
Are both scenarios accepted by HO?
Can we combine hours in both scenarios?

Please if you can advice on this.
Best way to that will be Second scenario.

Keep job 1 for full time and from job 2 to job 6 for part timer and mention on the form which job numbers are you going to combine . you can combine like job 3 and 4 combine with job 2 and job 5 and 6 combined . just work out your hrs to get the best way which is better to combine with which one .
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urgent help : after refusal,AR,New application & 10 year

Post by tier1hp » Fri Mar 03, 2017 7:27 am

Hi all members,
I got refusal due to employee hours - different post.

I am applying for new application today. Just want to clarify some points as the more i read the more i get confused.

If i apply for new application? And worst case, its refused again, what happens then?
Do i get chance to apply for AR after 2nd regusal?
Do i get chance to apply for new application after 2nd refusal?
What would my options be after 2nd application refusal?

In what case my 10 year route will be affected?

Applying today, so plsssssss if i can get any advice it will be great.

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Re: urgent help : after refusal,AR,New application & 10 year

Post by zimba » Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:09 pm

If i apply for new application? And worst case, its refused again, what happens then?
You have to leave the UK
Do i get chance to apply for AR after 2nd refusal?
Yes
Do i get chance to apply for new application after 2nd refusal?
No, as you will be an overstayer for over 14 days
What would my options be after 2nd application refusal?
Apply for an initial visa form home country
In what case my 10 year route will be affected?
If you get another refusal, your continuous period of stay is broken
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