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You can go to the Upper Tribunal and take your chances or reapply again within 28 days of the FTT decision explaining with a cover letter in detail of the circumstances around your first application.shortdays wrote:Hi,
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No 3rd party bank letter (as No UK Bank provides), no landline number on contract & no advertisement. However, I proved the last two points & were accepted.cpmlkhan wrote:Hello mate, What was the reason they rejected second time?
shortdays wrote:Thanks rooney..
Just to add into that, FTT decision letter quotes "At the outset of the appeal hearing, HOPO conceded that the respondent (HOPO) had failed to prove that no fee had been paid in relation to the prior application. Accordingly, I find that the applications were made in-time and there is a right of appeal.
By this, does it mean at the same time I was given confirmation that I'm covered under 3C/3D & still can make fresh application by correcting previous refusal reasons?
I spoke to home office today (this was the starting point of confusion) but felt either their call centre didn't have sufficient info or they were diplomatically trying to scare / confuse me. As per them I'm not an overstayer as long as I go to UTT but once I decided not to do that, then I am overtayer & can't submit fresh application.
can't read your PM aI just registered. what was that about?rooney0511 wrote:Sent you a PM please check
@ Olasunkanmi, thanks for this but FTT decision letter doesn't say anything / give timeline about making a fresh application. It only has application form for UT application.Olasunkanmi wrote:@ shortdays, better apply for permission to appeal at UT and then make necessary plans for your fresh application by correcting the mistakes in your previous application.
From the FTT judgement, you have full appeal right and can submit fresh application within the time given on last decision letter from the tribunal.
@Shah05, thank you for taking time & giving this clarification.Shah05 wrote:@shortdays, I will suggest you to apply UT as many ppl from this forum have won the case in UT. By that time you will get time to prepare your self for new application.
Now 1. If you decide to go to UT and don't get the permission, (appeal right exausts and 3c ends here) in this case once you will receive the confirmation letter from UT you will have 28 days to make a new application.
2. If you get the permission than just focus on winning there. (section 3c continues).
3. If you get refused in UT (3c ends, you can go to JR, but I won't suggest this option),make a fresh application within 28 days.
By applying to UT you are buying time for preparing a new application. So either way just start working on and hope that you go through in UT.
If you don't decide to go to UT than you have 28 days to make a fresh application, if you are ready than go ahead. But if not than u have 5 working days to apply to UT. So better make ur move fast.
Hope this will help.
Yes certainly you cansky100 wrote:I have a question. Can one make a fresh application within 28 days after permission to appeal was refused by the court of appeal?
@ Sheikh123, your section 3C extension of leave continues until your appeal is concluded or abandoned. This implies that until you exhaust all your appeal right, your section 3C continues. Section 3C will stops if the ffg happen;sheikh123 wrote:shah can u explain plz first u have write FT for write to go UT, if they give u right then ur 3c is still continuos, but if FT is refuse permission for UT in that case 3C is still continuous? plz give me ur opinion briefly.
If your appeal to 1st Tier Tribunal is dismissed then you can lodge your next appeal for permission to appeal to the Upper tribunal with in 5 working days of decision from 1st Tier Tribunal.shortdays wrote:
Now my question is:
Can I still submit fresh application in all the possibilites mentioned below? & what date does my 28 days start from?
1. If I decide to go to UTT & don't get permission -
2. If I decide to go to UTT & get permission -
3. If I decide to go to UTT & get refused -
4. What If I DONT decide to go to UTT? -