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ILR Dependent

Post by Bigman » Fri Sep 09, 2011 1:27 am

Hi
I will be eligible for ILR in Oct'11.
Nov'11 will be my marriage in india. As my dependent (dependent to settlement person) what application she has to use it in india?
what documents she has to show?
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Post by vinny » Fri Sep 09, 2011 3:16 am

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Post by Bigman » Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:04 pm

Venny,
Applications from outside the UK

you and your partner married or formed a civil partnership at least 4 years ago.

My question is, we haven't been in relation since 4 years. in this circumstances what type of visa i can apply for my wife?


vinny wrote:VAF4A.
Documents.

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Post by Lucapooka » Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:09 pm

It's the same application form and category. That statement you have cited is referring to situations where you have been married for 4 years (living outside the UK). It's not demanding this; it's merely asking if it is so. If you are not in this situation then it does not matter.

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Post by Bigman » Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:16 pm

thanks lucapooka.
you mean, even we are not in relation since 4 years. still we can use same application form, am i correct?
but rules are saying like...
Applications from outside the UK

If your visa application is successful, we may give you permission to settle permanently in the UK as soon as you arrive here. To be given this permission, you will need to provide evidence that:
you and your partner married or formed a civil partnership at least 4 years ago; and
you have spent those 4 years living together outside the UK; and
you are both coming to the UK to settle here together;
you do not have any unspent convictions within the meaning of the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974; and
you have sufficient knowledge of the English language and life in the UK. (You do not need to meet this last requirement if you are aged 65 or over.)


If your application is successful but you do not meet the above criteria, we will grant you a visa lasting 27 months. This is known as your 'probationary period' or 'qualifying period'.

Shortly before the end of your probationary period, you can apply for permission to settle permanently in the UK. This is known as 'indefinite leave to remain'. The Settlement pages contain more information.

Lucapooka wrote:It's the same application form and category. That statement you have cited is referring to situations where you have been married for 4 years (living outside the UK). It's not demanding this; it's merely asking if it is so. If you are not in this situation then it does not matter.

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Post by Bigman » Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:19 pm

We also going to get arranged marraige in india. even i am going to see her one week before my marriage. but requirements are saying ..been married for 4 years to get approve.
Lucapooka wrote:It's the same application form and category. That statement you have cited is referring to situations where you have been married for 4 years (living outside the UK). It's not demanding this; it's merely asking if it is so. If you are not in this situation then it does not matter.

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Post by Lucapooka » Fri Sep 09, 2011 5:20 pm

I really don't understand what you are asking (if, indeed, there is a question). You've been told which application form to apply for a spouse visa after the marriage. Your partner is the applicant and all the questions will be directed at her (even when the answer relates to you). VAF4A ia general settlement form that covers a wide range of categories (not just wives and not just people who have recently married). She must answer all the questions that relate to her category honestly and to the best of her understanding.

Really, if you are out of your depth with this then I suggest you get professional help; otherwise you are wasting time and money on an application that will not meet the rules.

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Post by Bigman » Fri Sep 09, 2011 8:03 pm

Sorry, i might not asked you in understandable way.
My questions are...
I am going to get my ILR in Oct2011 & also i am going get arranged marriage in india on Nov2011. as you said, spouse of settled person should use VAF4A application form to get a settlement.
a) even me & my wife doesn't have four year relation with each other, has she can apply and eligible for settlement from outside UK?
b) if she doesn't have right to apply for settlement, can she able to apply for dependent visa? if yes, what application she has to use?

Thanks.
Lucapooka wrote:I really don't understand what you are asking (if, indeed, there is a question). You've been told which application form to apply for a spouse visa after the marriage. Your partner is the applicant and all the questions will be directed at her (even when the answer relates to you). VAF4A ia general settlement form that covers a wide range of categories (not just wives and not just people who have recently married). She must answer all the questions that relate to her category honestly and to the best of her understanding.

Really, if you are out of your depth with this then I suggest you get professional help; otherwise you are wasting time and money on an application that will not meet the rules.

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Post by geriatrix » Fri Sep 09, 2011 8:20 pm

1. Your spouse will be eligible to apply for "settlement visa" (in other words, spouse visa) from outside the UK, not settlement!
2. Vinny has already answered this question.
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Post by Bigman » Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:29 pm

Thanks sushdmehta...
Actually i been confusing by seeing content in VAF4A form
"YOU SHOULD COMPLETE THIS FORM IF YOU ARE COMING TO THE UK TO SETTLE.
If you are not coming to the UK to settle then you are completing the wrong form."


by using this form, my wife will get settlement visa. then what will be the difference between settlement visa and settlement?
sushdmehta wrote:1. Your spouse will be eligible to apply for "settlement visa" (in other words, spouse visa) from outside the UK, not settlement!
2. Vinny has already answered this question.

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Post by Greenie » Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:42 pm

Bigman wrote:Thanks sushdmehta...
Actually i been confusing by seeing content in VAF4A form
"YOU SHOULD COMPLETE THIS FORM IF YOU ARE COMING TO THE UK TO SETTLE.
If you are not coming to the UK to settle then you are completing the wrong form."


by using this form, my wife will get settlement visa. then what will be the difference between settlement visa and settlement?
sushdmehta wrote:1. Your spouse will be eligible to apply for "settlement visa" (in other words, spouse visa) from outside the UK, not settlement!
2. Vinny has already answered this question.
she is applying for leave to enter with a view to settlement. It doesn't mean she will immediately be granted settlement.

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Post by Bigman » Sat Sep 10, 2011 12:24 am

Thanks Greenie.
Please would you help me out these below...

a)evidence of your age and your partner's age
we both are not holding birth certificates, alternatively can we show any or passport evidence is enough?

b)evidence that you have met
marriage photographs are enough?

c)evidence of your English language ability - see the English language page
she passed bachelors degree in english, does it require NARIC has to confimed this qualification?

d)evidence that you can can maintain yourselves and any dependants adequately without needing public funds - see the Maintenance (funds) page
How much funds i have to maintain & how many months i have to show?
i am maintaining £800 + £533 since 3 months. still she has to maintain any funds?

thanks
Greenie wrote:
Bigman wrote:Thanks sushdmehta...
Actually i been confusing by seeing content in VAF4A form
"YOU SHOULD COMPLETE THIS FORM IF YOU ARE COMING TO THE UK TO SETTLE.
If you are not coming to the UK to settle then you are completing the wrong form."


by using this form, my wife will get settlement visa. then what will be the difference between settlement visa and settlement?
sushdmehta wrote:1. Your spouse will be eligible to apply for "settlement visa" (in other words, spouse visa) from outside the UK, not settlement!
2. Vinny has already answered this question.
she is applying for leave to enter with a view to settlement. It doesn't mean she will immediately be granted settlement.

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Post by vinny » Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:10 pm

Bigman wrote:Hi All,
Who are in this board, have had huge experience on immigration. i am going to apply Spouses of persons present and settled in the United Kingdom. that's the reason i have been chosen here to post my thread too. please guide me!

I am on ILR status & going to be married on Oct 2011 (arranged marraige) in india. my questions are...

a) what application form, my wife has to use to apply to ILR dependent?

b)she has completed her bachelors degree(Btech) & tought in english. convocation states, she tought in english. does she need to get it authorised NARIC? or any alternative?

c) does she need to write life in the UK test?

d)i am maintaining funds £800 +£533 since three months, are they enough?

e)evidence of age, both can show 10th class certificates. will they be enough?

f)how long will it take to get this visa(processing times)?

g)Initially, how many years visa she may get it?

Please your input will be more useful. thank you.
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