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Applaying for British citizen eu route

Post by Indianlonly » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:44 pm

Hello guys
That's is my first topic here and I will appropriate your help
I'm due to apply for citizen ship application and there are few point I would like someone to clearfy them
1- I'm applaying through Europe route and I'm holiding a permanent resident less than a year but I'm already have acquired perminant resident So I would like to know shall I send 6 years history of my residence in uk only or I will have to include my ex wife as well ( based ror ) till divorce ?
2- I got a freind he is nurse but he finishe uni (b1) but he is 24 years old is that ok and his age does it make matter ?
3- anyone knows the legal frame ground of qualifying permanent automaticly acquired without wait a year from my perminant card was issued to include it in my cover letter
Thank you for advance

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Re: Applaying for British citizen eu route

Post by Indianlonly » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:52 am

Anyone ????

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Re: Applaying for British citizen eu route

Post by physicskate » Wed Apr 06, 2016 11:31 am

Indianlonly wrote:Hello guys
That's is my first topic here and I will appropriate your help
I'm due to apply for citizen ship application and there are few point I would like someone to clearfy them
1- I'm applaying through Europe route and I'm holiding a permanent resident less than a year but I'm already have acquired perminant resident So I would like to know shall I send 6 years history of my residence in uk only or I will have to include my ex wife as well ( based ror ) till divorce ?
2- I got a freind he is nurse but he finishe uni (b1) but he is 24 years old is that ok and his age does it make matter ?
3- anyone knows the legal frame ground of qualifying permanent automaticly acquired without wait a year from my perminant card was issued to include it in my cover letter
Thank you for advance
You must have permanent residence for a year unless you are married to a british citizen.

No idea what your second question is about.

the only exemption of waiting for a year is if you are currently married to a british citizen.

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Post by ohara » Wed Apr 06, 2016 11:43 am

You need to apply for a document certifying permanent residence first. You must hold PR status (not the card) for 12 months before you apply for citizenship. The only exception to this rule is if you are married to a British citizen. You will need to prove your residence in the UK between the date of your PR and the date you make the citizenship application (this isn't really a problem if you apply immediately after you acquire PR, I waited 4 years so I had to send some evidence).

How do you plan to satisfy the English language requirement?

Have you also passed the Life in the UK test?

Worry about the references later - you're quite far from this point at the moment.

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Re: Applaying for British citizen eu route

Post by Indianlonly » Fri Apr 08, 2016 6:09 am

Thank you bro
First of all I already have Pr card few months ago and I aquired perminant resident in 2015 and in October will complete 6 years considering my my automaticallyacquired pR in 2015
So in October 2015 aquired pr and in just received my pr card few weeks ago and oct 2016 6 years complete
I have already passed life in uk exams and tomorrow my appointment for B1 test in London trinty college
So a?????

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Post by ohara » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:10 am

Sounds good, once you have passed your English test and Life in the UK, assuming you meet other residency and good character requirements you should be OK to apply in October :)

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Post by Indianlonly » Sat Apr 09, 2016 2:43 am

ohara wrote:Sounds good, once you have passed your English test and Life in the UK, assuming you meet other residency and good character requirements you should be OK to apply in October :)

I know but I wana know please shall I send my 6 years history only me or also my ex ?

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Post by ohara » Sat Apr 09, 2016 4:25 am

I'm not sure what you are asking :?

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Post by Richard W » Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:34 pm

Indianlonly wrote:I know but I wana know please shall I send my 6 years history only me or also my ex ?
You are no longer married to your ex-wife. Therefore, what matters is that you are applying at least one year after the date that you acquired PR status. The Home Office records when you acquired PR, but don't automatically tell you what date they decided on. If you use the Nationality Checking Service (NCS), they can find out and should check that you meet the requirement.

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Post by Casa » Sat Apr 09, 2016 2:28 pm

Be aware that although the NCS staff have a direct line to the HO for basic queries they are unlikely to be able to check the PR qualifying date from the applicant's immigration history. It is and always will be the responsibility of the applicant to ensure they meet all the requirements. Submit a SAR request before booking your NCS appointment.
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Post by ohara » Sat Apr 09, 2016 2:32 pm

Casa wrote:Be aware that although the NCS staff have a direct line to the HO for basic queries they are unlikely to be able to check the PR qualifying date from the applicant's immigration history.
:shock:

When I had my NCS appointment, the advisor had obtained my PR date within about 20 seconds of picking up the phone :?

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Post by Casa » Sat Apr 09, 2016 2:34 pm

ohara wrote:
Casa wrote:Be aware that although the NCS staff have a direct line to the HO for basic queries they are unlikely to be able to check the PR qualifying date from the applicant's immigration history.
:shock:

When I had my NCS appointment, the advisor had obtained my PR date within about 20 seconds of picking up the phone :?
Then I bow to your superior knowledge and I'm impressed with the efficiency of the service. Thanks for the correction. :wink:
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Re: Applaying for British citizen eu route

Post by noajthan » Sat Apr 09, 2016 3:36 pm

ohara wrote: :shock:

When I had my NCS appointment, the advisor had obtained my PR date within about 20 seconds of picking up the phone :?
How many rings before HO answered the call?
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Re: Applaying for British citizen eu route

Post by Indianlonly » Sat Apr 09, 2016 8:02 pm

What does it mean booking ncs?
Richard w what do u mean she is not longer you wife ?
Do u mean I'm not qualify for bc because I'm not longer family member of eea ?
I have got pr card so and i have aquired my automaticly a year ago ? Please any admins clearfy that issue please for me

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Post by CR001 » Sat Apr 09, 2016 8:41 pm

Indianlonly wrote:What does it mean booking ncs?
Richard w what do u mean she is not longer you wife ?
Do u mean I'm not qualify for bc because I'm not longer family member of eea ?
I have got pr card so and i have aquired my automaticly a year ago ? Please any admins clearfy that issue please for me
NCS = Nationality Checking Service at the local council offices. They check your form, copy your documents and give you the originals including passport back. There is a fee for this service.

Your wife is irrelevant if she is not British and you are divorced. You effectively need 5 years residence which must include 12 months with PR. You must have no periods of overstay or illegal stay prior to your residence card. HO are very strict on the good character requirements/
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Post by ohara » Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:16 pm

Casa wrote:
ohara wrote:
Casa wrote:Be aware that although the NCS staff have a direct line to the HO for basic queries they are unlikely to be able to check the PR qualifying date from the applicant's immigration history.
:shock:

When I had my NCS appointment, the advisor had obtained my PR date within about 20 seconds of picking up the phone :?
Then I bow to your superior knowledge and I'm impressed with the efficiency of the service. Thanks for the correction. :wink:
No superior knowledge, just my own experience ;)

I was the first EEA applicant to use that particular NCS since the DCPR requirement was introduced in November and even the advisor didn't understand what I meant about the PR date and document issue date being different. It was something of a gamble but she made the call like I asked (which was answered immediately), she addressed the person on the other end by name, gave him the UKF number from the PR document and he came straight back and said yep June 2012.

I was somewhat relieved.

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Post by Casa » Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:56 pm

@ ohara Knew them by name? Maybe it was her husband and you struck lucky :wink:
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Post by Indianlonly » Sun Apr 10, 2016 3:27 am

So shall I send with my application my ex wife qualified till my ror or only send my application my six years history decuments ?

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Post by Casa » Sun Apr 10, 2016 10:03 am

You aren't applying through your ex-wife's residence. Submit proof of your 6 year qualifying period.
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Re: Applaying for British citizen eu route

Post by Indianlonly » Sun Apr 10, 2016 12:41 pm

Casa wrote:You aren't applying through your ex-wife's residence. Submit proof of your 6 year qualifying period.
Aaa thank you casa
My all decuments now ready
I passed life and uk exam and yesterday I passed b1 in trinty London Nd got pr card three month ago but aquired automaticly in 2015
I will gather my decuments since I come from India 2010 till now . I will send it with good cover letter

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Post by Indianlonly » Wed Apr 20, 2016 11:42 am

Hello again I'm in middle of filling my application Nd I got few point
How can I find test number in my life in uk exams ?
There few numbers nd non of them say test number
How can find reference number in my b1 trinity London certifcate or shall I leave both empty Nd send both certifcates ?
Third question my freind is nurse wih he register with NHS but I he is 24 years old can he reference me with my application as professional or he has to be 25 years old
Thank you

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Post by ohara » Wed Apr 20, 2016 12:20 pm

The number you need from the Life in the UK certificate is something like "test instance ID".

I never got a clear answer about the Trinity College certificate number, apparently it's the UER one, but even my NCS advisor wasn't sure. I left the box blank and sent the certificate.

I don't understand how you think your nurse friend can be a referee if he is 24 and the guidance says he has to be 25 :?

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Post by noajthan » Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:07 pm

Indianlonly wrote:Hello again I'm in middle of filling my application Nd I got few point
How can I find test number in my life in uk exams ?
There few numbers nd non of them say test number
How can find reference number in my b1 trinity London certifcate or shall I leave both empty Nd send both certifcates ?
Third question my freind is nurse wih he register with NHS but I he is 24 years old can he reference me with my application as professional or he has to be 25 years old
Thank you
Have you checked acceptable professions list?
Nurse (RN, SEN or holder of a BA in nursing) is listed. Age is not a factor if referee is a professional.

So if friend is RN, SEN or has BA and is not your relative; nor related to any other referee; is not your representative; nor has unspent convictions (etc etc) you are good to go.

Just a thought is your B1 ESOL a SELT? (that is: from approved provider & taken at approved test centre)?
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Re: Applaying for British citizen eu route

Post by Indianlonly » Thu Apr 21, 2016 10:23 am

noajthan wrote:
Indianlonly wrote:Hello again I'm in middle of filling my application Nd I got few point
How can I find test number in my life in uk exams ?
There few numbers nd non of them say test number
How can find reference number in my b1 trinity London certifcate or shall I leave both empty Nd send both certifcates ?
Third question my freind is nurse wih he register with NHS but I he is 24 years old can he reference me with my application as professional or he has to be 25 years old
Thank you
Have you checked acceptable professions list?
Nurse (RN, SEN or holder of a BA in nursing) is listed. Age is not a factor if referee is a professional.

So if friend is RN, SEN or has BA and is not your relative; nor related to any other referee; is not your representative; nor has unspent convictions (etc etc) you are good to go.

Just a thought is your B1 ESOL a SELT? (that is: from approved provider & taken at approved test centre)?
My freind is graduate from uni in uk as a nurse I think Ba Degree but he is only 24 years old Nd he is not relative to me bcos he is Nigerian nd I'm Indian we know other over 4 years Nd he is willing to sign for me but I'm scare to be refused by ukva becase he is only 24 years old
Nd my certifcate was done only 2 weeks ago from trinity London gase 5 b1 but it's says esol qualification but in button say selt so I asked them its esol Nd esol no longer exist for naturalism they said to me this certificate for British citizen approved !!!

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Re: Applaying for British citizen eu route

Post by Indianlonly » Thu Apr 21, 2016 10:29 am

ohara wrote:The number you need from the Life in the UK certificate is something like "test instance ID".

I never got a clear answer about the Trinity College certificate number, apparently it's the UER one, but even my NCS advisor wasn't sure. I left the box blank and sent the certificate.

I don't understand how you think your nurse friend can be a referee if he is 24 and the guidance says he has to be 25 :?
Thanx Ohara I found out the number it's the 17 number which start by Lct
All nearly done apart of reference :(

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