One missed payslip!

[lj]

Hello all,

I've been lurking in the forum because it's nice to see everyone sharing their processing times. Thanks for doing it!

I applied 16 June for switch from Work Permit to Tier 1. However, one of the payslips failed to be included in the pack sent to HO (despite many checks!) I have more than enough points for previous earning even discounting that payslip.

Does anyone know how will HO view this issue? My pay claim period is from April 08 to Feb 09 but now August 08 is missing. Will they just deduct the missing amount or will they be likely to reject the entire thing?

Many thanks!

[ChetanOjha]

Hello all,

I've been lurking in the forum because it's nice to see everyone sharing their processing times. Thanks for doing it!

I applied 16 June for switch from Work Permit to Tier 1. However, one of the payslips failed to be included in the pack sent to HO (despite many checks!) I have more than enough points for previous earning even discounting that payslip.

Does anyone know how will HO view this issue? My pay claim period is from April 08 to Feb 09 but now August 08 is missing. Will they just deduct the missing amount or will they be likely to reject the entire thing?

Many thanks!

In processing one of my friend's application, HO deduct the amount from the total and awarded the points. He still manage to claim sufficient point to get through.
BUT, this doesn't necesarily means that HO will consider it same for all. I would advice to send your left-out payslip to HO mentioning the reason as early as possible. It will show that you have atleast submitted all document. Who knows your payslips can be included in the application before it is sent to evaluation.

[lj]

In processing one of my friend's application, HO deduct the amount from the total and awarded the points. He still manage to claim sufficient point to get through.
BUT, this doesn't necesarily means that HO will consider it same for all. I would advice to send your left-out payslip to HO mentioning the reason as early as possible. It will show that you have atleast submitted all document. Who knows your payslips can be included in the application before it is sent to evaluation.

Thank you for sharing your friend's experience with the same problem. It gives hope! I have sent the left-out payslip today. Unfortunately it was not sent sooner because when I called HO and on the acknowledgement letter they told me very forcefully not to send it in.

Today I find out that website says additional documents can be sent anytime as long as application is still in consideration! HO does not even know its own policy!

[sanjacs]

The thing with that is, it takes about a week to get approval these days.

Your visa may have been processed before the payslip gets there. I sent an additonal document to HO, not knowing my visa was already on its way back. I never got an acknowledgement for that one.

[ChetanOjha]

In processing one of my friend's application, HO deduct the amount from the total and awarded the points. He still manage to claim sufficient point to get through.
BUT, this doesn't necesarily means that HO will consider it same for all. I would advice to send your left-out payslip to HO mentioning the reason as early as possible. It will show that you have atleast submitted all document. Who knows your payslips can be included in the application before it is sent to evaluation.

Thank you for sharing your friend's experience with the same problem. It gives hope! I have sent the left-out payslip today. Unfortunately it was not sent sooner because when I called HO and on the acknowledgement letter they told me very forcefully not to send it in.

Today I find out that website says additional documents can be sent anytime as long as application is still in consideration! HO does not even know its own policy!

I think if you are able to get points even without the missing payslips, you should be fine. As far as my friend's experience is concerned. Two of my friend applied with the same problem and both got approval at the same time. So if I were you, I will not give up hopes.

[tvn_ramesh]

Thank you for sharing your friend's experience with the same problem. It gives hope! I have sent the left-out payslip today. Unfortunately it was not sent sooner because when I called HO and on the acknowledgement letter they told me very forcefully not to send it in.

Today I find out that website says additional documents can be sent anytime as long as application is still in consideration! HO does not even know its own policy!

Hope you sent a covering letter along with the aug 08 pay slip and hope you also mentioned your reference letter no.. u received from HO.. give the HO some time to receive the docs n to link it with ur file..

[lj]

Thank you for the replies and thoughts on the problem! It does seem weird nothing has been heard even though people are getting one weeks turnaround. This has worried me! Nothing has been received today and it has been 3 weeks.

The payslip was sent with a covering letter with reference number, name, address and phone number. It also explained why it was being sent and that although the letter of receipt said not to send extra documents, the website says otherwise. A printout of where the website says that was attached.

But now Royal Mail delivered it too early and it is sitting in a PO box waiting to be collected??? Hope HO collects tomorrow.

[tvn_ramesh]

Thank you for the replies and thoughts on the problem! It does seem weird nothing has been heard even though people are getting one weeks turnaround. This has worried me! Nothing has been received today and it has been 3 weeks.

The payslip was sent with a covering letter with reference number, name, address and phone number. It also explained why it was being sent and that although the letter of receipt said not to send extra documents, the website says otherwise. A printout of where the website says that was attached.

But now Royal Mail delivered it too early and it is sitting in a PO box waiting to be collected??? Hope HO collects tomorrow.

you dont need to worry till 28th of july (6weeks) since by that time ur application will be Awaiting consideration... when a caseworker will start to look into ur application... so if ur pay slip reaches them before that time and attached to ur application.. u shd be ok..

[ChetanOjha]

Thank you for the replies and thoughts on the problem! It does seem weird nothing has been heard even though people are getting one weeks turnaround. This has worried me! Nothing has been received today and it has been 3 weeks.

The payslip was sent with a covering letter with reference number, name, address and phone number. It also explained why it was being sent and that although the letter of receipt said not to send extra documents, the website says otherwise. A printout of where the website says that was attached.

But now Royal Mail delivered it too early and it is sitting in a PO box waiting to be collected??? Hope HO collects tomorrow.

Just sitback and relax. You cannot do anything more than that. I think it will be fine. In the unlikely worst case, if you are not granted approval you can challenge decision based on the facts:
1. Even without your payslips you were getting enough points.
2. You have sent the left-out payslips which was received by HO before deicision was made.Why this was not considered?(Retain all proof of despatches, website printout etc)
3. People have been granted as per the point 1 above. Hence the precedence is already set, so it would be desccrimination from HO side, which is highly unlikely.

Therefore, I think you should be fine. Make sense?

[lj]

Just sitback and relax. You cannot do anything more than that. I think it will be fine. In the unlikely worst case, if you are not granted approval you can challenge decision based on the facts:
1. Even without your payslips you were getting enough points.
2. You have sent the left-out payslips which was received by HO before deicision was made.Why this was not considered?(Retain all proof of despatches, website printout etc)
3. People have been granted as per the point 1 above. Hence the precedence is already set, so it would be desccrimination from HO side, which is highly unlikely.

Therefore, I think you should be fine. Make sense?

Yeah, I agree, it hopefully is fine. Thank you for the advice on what to do about challenging it. A woman on the phone earlier in the week said if it is rejected, I should get no ability to appeal because my leave is still valid. That sounds incredibly unfair. Hopefully she's wrong and there will be ability to appeal and I can use your advice!

I called again today and was told I'd sent the payslip to the wrong address. But it's the address the website said--Durham, same place to send the app. Then I found a bit on another part of the site that said to send it to Croydon. But the woman on the phone said I should send it to Sheffield! ???

It was a PO box for Sheffield. I complained that I cannot send recorded items to a PO box. She said it would be fine. I asked who would sign for it. She said it won't need to be signed for, they will just place it in the box. !!! It seems HO has special agreement with the postal system regarding their PO boxes?

I asked to speak to her manager about all the misinformation and she refused. She said that a complaint would have to be written up and sent to complaint centre. Who will read? NO ONE...it probably goes to a post box that goes straight into paper shredder

And I know, I could always go back to my country if I don't like it, fair enough, but still...we should not be treated this badly. Especially when I never use NHS, never miss day of work and, most importantly, love England.

[ChetanOjha]

Just sitback and relax. You cannot do anything more than that. I think it will be fine. In the unlikely worst case, if you are not granted approval you can challenge decision based on the facts:
1. Even without your payslips you were getting enough points.
2. You have sent the left-out payslips which was received by HO before deicision was made.Why this was not considered?(Retain all proof of despatches, website printout etc)
3. People have been granted as per the point 1 above. Hence the precedence is already set, so it would be desccrimination from HO side, which is highly unlikely.

Therefore, I think you should be fine. Make sense?

Yeah, I agree, it hopefully is fine. Thank you for the advice on what to do about challenging it. A woman on the phone earlier in the week said if it is rejected, I should get no ability to appeal because my leave is still valid. That sounds incredibly unfair. Hopefully she's wrong and there will be ability to appeal and I can use your advice!

I called again today and was told I'd sent the payslip to the wrong address. But it's the address the website said--Durham, same place to send the app. Then I found a bit on another part of the site that said to send it to Croydon. But the woman on the phone said I should send it to Sheffield! ???

It was a PO box for Sheffield. I complained that I cannot send recorded items to a PO box. She said it would be fine. I asked who would sign for it. She said it won't need to be signed for, they will just place it in the box. !!! It seems HO has special agreement with the postal system regarding their PO boxes?

I asked to speak to her manager about all the misinformation and she refused. She said that a complaint would have to be written up and sent to complaint centre. Who will read? NO ONE...it probably goes to a post box that goes straight into paper shredder

And I know, I could always go back to my country if I don't like it, fair enough, but still...we should not be treated this badly. Especially when I never use NHS, never miss day of work and, most importantly, love England.

HO has got a dedicated PO box where all delivery lands. Even if you send Special Delivery it will land into that box. Better send it by Special Delivery (Before 1PM delivery and not before 9am delivery) so that you have proof of despatch.

[lj]

HO has got a dedicated PO box where all delivery lands. Even if you send Special Delivery it will land into that box. Better send it by Special Delivery (Before 1PM delivery and not before 9am delivery) so that you have proof of despatch.

I wish the woman on the phone explained it that simply! Hopefully they will forward it to the correct place. But Special Delivery still says it is sitting in PO Box now.

I called the HO again today to see if I could book an appointment just in case it is rejected, they said no. The woman I spoke to also said that the current turnaround is 6 weeks despite what their website says and what other people's results are.

I discussed the missed payslip and she said she definitely thinks it will be rejected if they do not receive it in time. She said that it is 12 consecutive months necessary and a missed month during that is not allowed.

Will it depend on the caseworker?

[tvn_ramesh]

I discussed the missed payslip and she said she definitely thinks it will be rejected if they do not receive it in time. She said that it is 12 consecutive months necessary and a missed month during that is not allowed.

Will it depend on the caseworker?

buddy you did not answer a simple question asked by CHETAN

1. Even without your payslips you were getting enough points.

if you get enough earning and qualification points without that payslip.. you dont need to worry... it is not mandatory that you shd submit all 12months payslips.. i saw ppl got approvals even with 7months payslips

[lj]

I discussed the missed payslip and she said she definitely thinks it will be rejected if they do not receive it in time. She said that it is 12 consecutive months necessary and a missed month during that is not allowed.

Will it depend on the caseworker?

buddy you did not answer a simple question asked by CHETAN

1. Even without your payslips you were getting enough points.

if you get enough earning and qualification points without that payslip.. you dont need to worry... it is not mandatory that you shd submit all 12months payslips.. i saw ppl got approvals even with 7months payslips

Apologies, I thought I answered question by saying I agree entirely w/what Chetan said. It does make sense to say it is 12 month continuous period payslips can come from but they can be any amount within that 12 months.

Problem is HO giving inconsistent information that counters this viewpoint. It has only been short time since submitting...I know it just will take time and patience. It is just stressful to wait with no answer and no update on whether additional document arrive safely. Thank you kindly for all of your information! You guys help make things less stressful.

[push]

You can claim for any number of months within a 12 month consecutive period. It is the period that should consist of 12 consecutive months. Of these 12 months you can claim points for say 1st month then 7th month and 10th month, provided earnings in these three months is sufficient for you to claim the desired points.