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Are those really the reasons that were even put down in the refusal letter?alisonpal wrote:hi i am british born married to indian since feb 2009 we have been in relationship since 2007 and we have just had a refusal from visa section delhi on the grounds that i am 10 yrs older than my spouse and that we have different cultures and backgrounds is this not discrimination
what was the exact wording on the refusal letter?alisonpal wrote:hi i am british born married to indian since feb 2009 we have been in relationship since 2007 and we have just had a refusal from visa section delhi on the grounds that i am 10 yrs older than my spouse and that we have different cultures and backgrounds is this not discrimination
you have married a women who is ten years older than you and i am aware that entering into such a marriage in india would be unheard of .you and your wife have two entirely different backgrounds .personal circumstanses and religions and ages while these are not neccessarily a bar to a genuine marriage it would appear that you have little or indeed anything in common it would appear likely that this a marriage of convience to allow you re entry into ukJohn wrote:alisonpal, can you post what the rejection letter actually says. You have not done that yet. ECOs don't write in "text-speak" and don't tend to write in block capitals.
Has your spouse been to the UK before? Have they been in breach of a previous visa? Have they been refused a visa to the UK before?alisonpal wrote: you have married a women who is ten years older than you and i am aware that entering into such a marriage in india would be unheard of .you and your wife have two entirely different backgrounds .personal circumstanses and religions and ages while these are not neccessarily a bar to a genuine marriage it would appear that you have little or indeed anything in common it would appear likely that this a marriage of convience to allow you re entry into uk
Even if this was the case, I don't believe that a visa can be refused on these grounds only. Besides, ofcourse the visa applicant would normally apply for ILR after the end of the two year spouse visa, and would not be looking to return home. It is a settlement visa for goodness sake! Looks like there's more to it....desperate_wife wrote:
but i believe the ECO got a feeling that since the woman is 10 years older than the male....the relationship may not last...and after two years of the spouse visa validity expiry, the visa applicant may not return to his home country.
thats what i think.....
Yes it certainly can. My Pakistani friend was in a similar position. His wife was rejected on the basis that the ECO thinks the marriage was one of convenience and that the wife doesn't seem to have any long time ambition to stay with my friend, even though she was five months pregnant.Rozen wrote: Even if this was the case, I don't believe that a visa can be refused on these grounds only. Besides, ofcourse the visa applicant would normally apply for ILR after the end of the two year spouse visa, and would not be looking to return home. It is a settlement visa for goodness sake! Looks like there's more to it....
Okay, I get the marriage of convenience part of it. But not to say that the ECO fears that after the expiry of the two year spouse visa the applicant may not return to home country. Because that's ridiculous! (which was a response to deperate_wife's post, by the way).Obie wrote:Yes it certainly can. My Pakistani friend was in a similar position. His wife was rejected on the basis that the ECO thinks the marriage was one of convenience and that the wife doesn't seem to have any long time ambition to stay with my friend, even though she was five months pregnant.Rozen wrote: Even if this was the case, I don't believe that a visa can be refused on these grounds only. Besides, ofcourse the visa applicant would normally apply for ILR after the end of the two year spouse visa, and would not be looking to return home. It is a settlement visa for goodness sake! Looks like there's more to it....
It took him nearly a year for her visa to be approved and her appeal to be allowed, by then she had given birth, with the child having to apply for Pakistani Citizenship as his dad obtained his British passport by descent.
They have been behaving quite erratically of late.I am not quite sure exactly when the UK border agency started trying their staff to become marriage expert.
The worst thing is the guy who told him that seem to be in his late teen early twenties to make a prediction on how a relationship will end.
My point exactly! This is where I've said there's more to it than just saying you might not go back to your country. I am not saying that it is an isolated case in it's nature. I am saying that there looks to be more to the story than meets the eye.Obie wrote: It can only be refused on ground of Public policy (Serious criminal Record), public health or Public security.
he was there for 5 yrs and he got a refusal for extension on 20th jan 2009 we returned to india 18th febRozen wrote:Has your spouse been to the UK before? Have they been in breach of a previous visa? Have they been refused a visa to the UK before?alisonpal wrote: you have married a women who is ten years older than you and i am aware that entering into such a marriage in india would be unheard of .you and your wife have two entirely different backgrounds .personal circumstanses and religions and ages while these are not neccessarily a bar to a genuine marriage it would appear that you have little or indeed anything in common it would appear likely that this a marriage of convience to allow you re entry into uk
me british citizen 37 him indian citizen 28 we have been in a reltionship for 2 and half yrs he has been in employment in uk as a trainee manager for food company he applied for post graduate visa was refused we both returned to uk yes i am white he is asian what my age religion .race has to do with him applying i have no idea i have 3 thousand pounds in my uk we have a joint indian bank account with just under 4 lachs in it we got this as a wedding present from his mum they are classing this as 3rd party family money even although we provided a affidavit from mum stating that the money was a wedding gift.thr eco says he has it has never been heard of such a marriage in india would not be allowed .i gave him my uk lease and covering letter from landlord stating i am sole occupier of the premises and that my lease has been renewed ever 6 months since april 2008 they say we have no housebatleykhan wrote:Alisonpal
I think we need a bit more info about your personal circumstances and that of your spouse to try and give you a definitive answer in view of what your spouse was refused for.
For example, how old you both are, when and how did you meet, are you both Indians(I mean your race) what your religious beliefs are,how long you have known each other etc.
If you can give us this information, we might be able to tell you the truth in that you have genuinly been discriminated or the ECO is correct and that your marriage is indeed a marriage of convieniance
The information you have given so far is in in dribs and drabs. This is not good enough for other people to help you here. You must be honest with the truth, otherwise you are wasting other peoples time