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Doesn't she have to be dependent?benifa wrote:Ok, if he's sure..
Once your son is a British citizen, consider using EU law. Sacrifices will have to be made, largely on his part.
He will have to move to another EEA nation (like Ireland, for example). You will have to move with him. He will have to work (or be self-employed) there, for at least six months.
After that, he can return to the UK and you can return with him.
It is a free of charge process, but it may not be practical.
Not necessarily.Wanderer wrote:Doesn't she have to be dependent?
[url=http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2004:158:0077:0123:EN:PDF]Directive 2004/38/EC[/url] Article 2(2) wrote:2) "Family member" means:
(a) the spouse;
(b) the partner with whom the Union citizen has contracted a registered partnership, on the
basis of the legislation of a Member State, if the legislation of the host Member State
treats registered partnerships as equivalent to marriage and in accordance with the
conditions laid down in the relevant legislation of the host Member State;
(c) the direct descendants who are under the age of 21 or are dependants and those of the
spouse or partner as defined in point (b);
(d) the dependent direct relatives in the ascending line and those of the spouse or partner as
defined in point (b);
For example:[url=http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2004:158:0077:0123:EN:PDF]Directive 2004/38/EC[/url] Article 3(2) wrote:2. Without prejudice to any right to free movement and residence the persons concerned may have
in their own right, the host Member State shall, in accordance with its national legislation, facilitate
entry and residence for the following persons:
(a) any other family members, irrespective of their nationality, not falling under the definition in
point 2 of Article 2 who, in the country from which they have come, are dependants or
members of the household of the Union citizen having the primary right of residence, or
where serious health grounds strictly require the personal care of the family member by the
Union citizen;
(b) the partner with whom the Union citizen has a durable relationship, duly attested.
The host Member State shall undertake an extensive examination of the personal circumstances and
shall justify any denial of entry or residence to these people.
The ECJ ruling on Singh consistently mentions spouse, rather than family member.Wanderer wrote:Doesn't Singh apply to spouses only?
RIGHTS OF NON-EEA NATIONAL FAMILY MEMBERS OF EUROPEAN ECONOMIC AREA (EEA) NATIONALS (European Casework Instructions), 2.5.1 wrote:Family Members of a British national (Surinder Singh)
The ECJ case of SURINDER SINGH ruled that where a national of a Member State goes with his/her non-EEA national spouse to another Member State to exercise an economic Treaty right, on return to his/her own Member State the non-EEA national spouse is entitled to join the EEA national under EC law.
Under regulation 9 of the 2006 Regulations, the family members of a British national returning to the UK will be treated as if they were the family members of an EEA national under the following conditions:
The family member of a British national will only have a right to reside in the UK under the 2006 Regulations if the British national would have a right to reside in the UK under those Regulations if he/she were an EEA national, e.g. because he/she is working or self-sufficient.
- After leaving the United Kingdom, the British national resided in an EEA state and –
o Was employed there (other than on a transient or casual basis); or
o Established him/herself there as a self-employed person; and- If the family member is his/her spouse, the marriage took place, and the parties lived together in an EEA state, before the British national returned to the United Kingdom.
See section 3.2 of this chapter for information on issuing a residence card in SURINDER SINGH cases.
See Chapter 3 for more information on evidence required by Entry Clearance Officers in order to issue an EEA family permit in these circumstances.
eughhh!Obie wrote:The ruling consistently mentioned Spouse, because the case involved the spouse of a British Citizens, same with Metock and Mrax, just like Jia and Eind only mentioned dependent family members.
However under EU law, there is no discrimination among family member, which means rules applied to one type, applies to all, regardless of whether they are Article 2 or 3(Save for the few limitations and requirements attached for these categories of family members).
One could quote case law for Eind in cases involving Spouse, and it would be perfectly fine to do so.
Why have you posted in this thread from 2009? And what does your question relate to? You need to start your OWN thread where members can respond.avataar8 wrote:Hi,
One more thing I wanted to confirm. I am 52 years of age was in UK for 7 years