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Post by tt » Mon Feb 20, 2006 12:27 am

Many thanks for that, ppron.

Except that how do you define those of Jesey heritage, and those of UK proper heritage.

If UK citizens can get a British Islands (Jersey) passport if they apply in Jersey, then is that enough? (to avoid the ID card)?

As was suggested earlier, the EU definition (leading to the work movement exclusion for Jersey residents), is quite different to the UK Parlt definition.

Are those not of the UK, but of the Crown Dependencies, those without UK ancestry or 5 years residence in the UK proper - or simply those who can get ILR/residency for Jersey (or any of the other Crown Depenencies ie NOT UK proper)?

These are the sort of issues I was envisaging.

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Post by JAJ » Mon Feb 20, 2006 12:52 am

ppron747 wrote:
tt wrote:......So, Jersey will not introduce ID cards. I wonder how this will test the constitutional arrangement between them now?
The ID Cards Bill refers only the "the United Kingdom" - not "the United Kingdom and Islands" so I wouldn't imagine that the constitutional arrangement will be tested much at all....

That's quite correct. It is up to each Crown Dependency and Overseas Territory whether (and how) it wishes to introduce an ID card scheme alongside the UK.

British citizens from Jersey who move to the UK (without an ID card) will be in the same position as those British citizens resident elsewhere in the world who move to the UK. Presumably such persons will be able to apply for a separate ID card.

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Post by JAJ » Mon Feb 20, 2006 12:54 am

tt wrote:Many thanks for that, ppron.

Except that how do you define those of Jesey heritage, and those of UK proper heritage.

If UK citizens can get a British Islands (Jersey) passport if they apply in Jersey, then is that enough? (to avoid the ID card)?
As far as I understand all British citizens *living* in the UK will need an ID card. Those not living in the UK - whether they live in a Crown Dependency, Overseas Territory, or another country, will not.

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