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xxxtieee
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nissa wrote:
very wired until we will not take the oath of fertility we cant be a citizen and enjoy citizenship rights.2nd thing after getting citizenship certificate and travel document the onus is on us to inform the inis dept about our citizenship.


Oath for fertility! I will take no such oath!! Wink

thought that would relax us all a bit... Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When they will start invitation for next ceremony? Anyone knows?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

depim wrote:
When they will start invitation for next ceremony? Anyone knows?


Hopefully in the last week of Aug or 1st week of Sept. I am waiting too for the Oct ceremony invitation Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you guys will get next approvals end of august or beggining of sep .i wish you good luck those are still waiting for it.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you guys will get next approvals end of august or beggining of sep .i wish you good luck those are still waiting for it.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

waiting2beirish wrote:
depim wrote:
When they will start invitation for next ceremony? Anyone knows?


Hopefully in the last week of Aug or 1st week of Sept. I am waiting too for the Oct ceremony invitation Wink

When did you get your reference number?

Any ideas on which batch of applications are due next. I apple aid November but no reference number till jan. could I be in the next batch?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IQU wrote:
you guys will get next approvals end of august or beggining of sep .i wish you good luck those are still waiting for it.


Thanks for your best wishes.

courny

I had applied in Oct 2011 and got ref Number in Jan 2012. I believe we have to have faith in INIS as they aim to clear all back log by the end of his year. I guess we all will have Irish citizenship before the end of this year. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

waiting2beirish wrote:
IQU wrote:
you guys will get next approvals end of august or beggining of sep .i wish you good luck those are still waiting for it.


Thanks for your best wishes.

courny

I had applied in Oct 2011 and got ref Number in Jan 2012. I believe we have to have faith in INIS as they aim to clear all back log by the end of his year. I guess we all will have Irish citizenship before the end of this year. Smile



it is amazing, based on what you're saying when backlog is referred to applications that are applied in 2011, I wonder what term should we use for applications which are applied in 2008?

my spouse applied in 2008 and still no news, still they are waiting for garda report, they have recently asked for proof of address (which we have sent and they confirmed they've received it) and the letter was stated to be in further processing applications but no news since then.

but I am amused since applications of 2011 are considered to be the backlog, then 2008 applications are either mission impossible or legacy.

This is the most annoying and ridiculous time of my life.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the most annoying and ridiculous time of my life.[/quote]

Tell me about it man, it is very frustrating when we dot even what is the delay for and if any further information will be required.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Again i emailed the doj following is the reply i hope for the end of this year

The position is as stated previously, Every effort is being made to clearany remaining backlog of applications on hand. Your application will besubmitted to the Minister for decision as soon as possible.I have noted your new address on our records.Kind regards
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="blessed_sinner"]This is the most annoying and ridiculous time of my life.[/quote]

Tell me about it man, it is very frustrating when we dot even what is the delay for and if any further information will be required.[/quote] i can imagine buddy.this is very hard time in our life.but atleast they are clearing the backload.if there was still old policies we cant get our results before 2014.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PQ: NATURALISATION – NUMBERS AND NATIONALITIES SINCE 2005
Tue, July 10, 2012
Deputy Maureen O’Sullivan asked the Minister for Justice and Equality the number of persons, since 2005, that have been naturalised every year and to date in 2012; and if he will give an indication of the top ten nationalities that have been naturalised since 2005.

Minister for Justice and Equality (Deputy Alan Shatter): The top ten nationalities naturalised since 2005 are Nigerian, Filipino, Indian, South African, Chinese (including Hong Kong nationals), Pakistani, Bangladeshi, Ukrainian, Russian Federation nationals and nationals of the United States of America.Minister for Justice and Equality (Deputy Alan Shatter): I am advised by the Irish Naturalisation and Immigration Service that the number of Certificates of Naturalisation issued in the years 2005 to 2012 were approximately 1 400, 1 400, 1 500, 3 100, 4 500, 6 400, 10 700, and 12 300 in the year to date respectively.
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PQ: NATURALISATION – SPOUSE OF IRISH NATIONAL
Tue, July 17, 2012

Deputy Noel Grealish asked the Minister for Justice and Equality the number of persons that have applied for naturalisation on the basis of being married to an Irish citizen since it was no longer possible to make a post nuptial declaration of citizenship, 29 November 2005; the number of those applicants since 29 November 2005 that have been deemed acceptable to be naturalised and eligible to apply for citizenship; the number of applicants since 29 November 2005 that have been refused as eligible to apply for citizenship; the number of applications now pending for spouses of Irish citizens since 29 November 2005; the logistics of interdepartmental checks that take place for this process; what the departmental checks entail; and if he will make a statement on the matter.

Minister for Justice and Equality (Deputy Alan Shatter): The number of persons that have applied for a Certificate of Naturalisation under section 15A of the Irish Nationality and Citizenship Act, 1956 as amended for the period from 29 November 2005 to 30 June 2012 is approximately 7,300. This section refers to the circumstances in which spouses of Irish citizens may become naturalised.
In the period in question the approximate number of applications approved, including a small number lodged before the 29 November 2005, is approximately 4,300, the number deemed to be ineligible was 400 and the total number refused was 160. The number of applications awaiting decision is some 2,800, almost 80% of which were lodged in 2011 and 2012 to date.
The Deputy will appreciate that naturalisation applications must be processed in a way which preserves the necessary checks and balances to ensure that citizenship is not undervalued and is given only to persons who satisfy the necessary qualifying criteria. The processing procedures, which I am satisfied are necessary to maintain the integrity of the naturalisation process, have been developed and refined over a number of years.
The procedures employed to assess an applicant for naturalisation include an initial examination upon receipt of each application to determine if the statutory application is completed fully. Incomplete application forms are returned to the applicant for further attention. Valid applications are then examined to determine if the applicant meets the statutory criteria set out in the Irish Nationality and Citizenship Act such as good character and lawful residence, and, as appropriate, enquiries are made with the relevant Departments and agencies to establish if the applicant meets the requirements for the granting of naturalisation. Once these processes are completed, the application is submitted to me for a decision which I make in my absolute discretion by assessing the entirety of the information available to me.
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PQ: NATURALISATION APPLICATIONS – BREAKDOWN OF NUMBERS GRANTED AND APPROVED, REASONS

Tue, July 17, 2012

Deputy Dara Calleary asked the Minister for Justice and Equality the number of applications for citizenship by naturalisation processed by his Department between 1 January 2011 and 31 December 2011; the number of applications that were approved; the number refused; and if he will make a statement on the matter.
Deputy Dara Calleary asked the Minister for Justice and Equality the number of applications for Irish citizenship by naturalisation were granted between 1 January 2011 and 31 December 2011, disaggregated by the applicants previous nationalities, age and gender; and if he will make a statement on the matter.
Deputy Dara Calleary asked the Minister for Justice and Equality the number of applications for Irish citizenship by naturalisation refused between 1 January 2011 and 31 December 2011 disaggregated by the applicants nationalities, age and gender; and if he will make a statement on the matter.
Deputy Dara Calleary asked the Minister for Justice and Equality the number of applications for Irish citizenship by naturalisation refused between 1 January 2011 and 31 December 2011, disaggregated by the reasons for the refusal; and if he will make a statement on the matter.
Deputy Dara Calleary asked the Minister for Justice and Equality the number of applications for Irish citizenship by naturalisation refused between 1 January 2011 and 31 December 2011 on the basis that the applicant had come to the adverse attention of the Garda Siochana; and if he will disaggregate the data by the applicants nationalities; and if he will make a statement on the matter.
Deputy Dara Calleary asked the Minister for Justice and Equality the number of applications for Irish citizenship by naturalisation were refused between 1 January 2011 and 31 December 2011 on the basis that the applicant had come to the adverse attention of a member of the Garda Siochana in situations where the applicant has not had a conviction recorded against them; and if he will disaggregate the data by the applicants nationalities; and if he will make a statement on the matter.
Deputy Dara Calleary asked the Minister for Justice and Equality the number of applications for Irish citizenship by naturalisation approved between 1 January 2011 and 31 December 2011 in cases where the applicants had come to the adverse attention of a member of the Garda Siochana; if he will disaggregate the data by the applicants previous nationalities; and if he will make a statement on the matter.



Minister for Justice and Equality (Deputy Alan Shatter): I propose to take Questions Nos. 584 to 590, inclusive, together.
The number of applications processed for the period from 1 January to 31 December 2011 was approximately 15,000. The number approved was approximately 13,000 and refused was approximately 600. In addition, almost 1,200 applications were deemed to be ineligible.
The primary aim since I was appointed Minister in March 2011 has been to reduce the large volume of cases on hand as swiftly as possible which has now been achieved in the majority of cases and I am confident that significant inroads will also be made with the remaining cases by year end. I can also inform the Deputy that from June 2012, in the generality of cases i.e. around 70%, persons applying for a certificate of naturalisation will be given a decision on their application within six months.
For the information of the Deputy the situation in March 2011 was that there were over 22,000 cases on hand and applications were taking an average time of over two years to process and many were waiting 3 to 4 years. Through the measures I introduced enormous progress has been made, notwithstanding a substantial increase in the volume of valid applications received in 2011, during which a total of 18,500 valid applications were received compared to 12,500 in 2010. As stated above, approximately 15,000 valid applications were determined in 2011. By contrast, in 2010, a decision was reached in just under 7,800 cases. In 2012 to date, I have made a decision in approximately 15,600 cases.
The Irish Nationality and Citizenship Act, 1956, as amended, provides that the Minister may decide to grant or refuse an application in his absolute discretion on a case by case basis by assessing the entirety of the available information. Where an application is refused the applicant is generally given reasons for that decision insofar as the explanation given cannot be interpreted as a fettering of the absolute discretion given to the Minister in the Act. I would make the general comment that this issue has been tested before the Courts and found to be in accordance with the law. The Deputy will therefore appreciate that it would be inappropriate for me to provide the information sought in respect of the reasons for refusing applications for naturalisation. In any event, I am advised by the Citizenship Division of my Department that the retrieval and compilation of this and other information requested by the Deputy for the period in question would necessitate a disproportionate use of time and resources which could not be justified in circumstances where the priority is to deal with the cases on hand.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so they are working fast enough then last govt.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so they are working fast enough then last govt.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

citdep wrote:
waiting2beirish wrote:
IQU wrote:
you guys will get next approvals end of august or beggining of sep .i wish you good luck those are still waiting for it.


Thanks for your best wishes.

courny

I had applied in Oct 2011 and got ref Number in Jan 2012. I believe we have to have faith in INIS as they aim to clear all back log by the end of his year. I guess we all will have Irish citizenship before the end of this year. Smile



it is amazing, based on what you're saying when backlog is referred to applications that are applied in 2011, I wonder what term should we use for applications which are applied in 2008?

my spouse applied in 2008 and still no news, still they are waiting for garda report, they have recently asked for proof of address (which we have sent and they confirmed they've received it) and the letter was stated to be in further processing applications but no news since then.

but I am amused since applications of 2011 are considered to be the backlog, then 2008 applications are either mission impossible or legacy.

This is the most annoying and ridiculous time of my life.


Weird they are waiting for Garda report for all EU/Irish spouse for applicants 2008-2010, my wife asked for similar report for US visa and she got it in less than 2 weeks but for her application they are waiting for it since 10/2011
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fine geal and yhe Min Allen Shatter e the best
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

did any one received acknowledgement for new application from department recently. Question
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After read above questions and answers look like no case from 2005 to 2011 will be left unprocessed and all cases will be decided by DEC 2012.i am Feb 2011 applicant and i hope the doj will clear the back log of all applications until dec 2011 before dec 2012. lets see what news will come up after few weeks.doj should clear all the back log of 2011 before dec 2012 other wise too many questions will arise on the statements given out by the officials that the back log will be cleared by dec 2012.
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