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WalexK
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:50 pm    Post subject: Percentage of Family Permit Visa Issued. Reply with quote

Hi All,

Anybody knows the percentage of Family Permit Visas issued in Germany and France in 2011 or before today, August 1 2012?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your question lacks a certain context. 100% of legitimate applications are issued, whether that be at the time of applying or eventually, after appealing. The number of applications that were not legitimate and were not appealed or re-applied is, perhaps, beyond the scope of this discussion?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lucapooka wrote:
100% of legitimate applications are issued, whether that be at the time of applying or eventually, after appealing.

This is wrong.

Many applications are rejected for very incorrect reasons. Many of those applicants to not bother appealing. And so each of those rejections stands (i.e. is never challenged).

Sometimes people then move on to reapply, and sometimes they think to themselves that the hassle of visiting the UK is too much and so they go on vacation somewhere else.

Lucapooka wrote:
The number of applications that were not legitimate and were not appealed or re-applied is, perhaps, beyond the scope of this discussion?

Why exactly are you being so harsh with this poster's question?


WalexK, Good question! https://dl.dropbox.com/u/27885818/UK/UKBA-EEAFP-issued-refused-2011.xls is a spreadsheet with the EEA FP refusal statistics for various posts. For Germany/France the relevant posts are:
Dusseldorf 6%
"UK Visa Section" 9%
Paris 7%
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are the most common reasons for refusal in UK and else?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

anp wrote:
What are the most common reasons for refusal in UK and else?

Very good question!

UKBA claims that they do not have that information and that it is too expensive to find through an FOI request
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see.

I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw Chisinau 73%. I attempted years ago to invite my best friend from college days, but they didn't even accept his application demanding that he provided £120 for each day of his stay. Outrageous knowing that average salary in Moldova is $100 a month. Its so unfair!!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

anp wrote:
I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw Chisinau 73%. I attempted years ago to invite my best friend from college days, but they didn't even accept his application demanding that he provided £120 for each day of his stay. Outrageous knowing that average salary in Moldova is $100 a month. Its so unfair!!

Remember that these are just refusal statistics for EEA Family Permits. And there are very few legal reasons the EEA FP can be turned down.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:22 am    Post subject: Refusal Rate Reply with quote

Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:
Lucapooka wrote:
100% of legitimate applications are issued, whether that be at the time of applying or eventually, after appealing.

This is wrong.

Many applications are rejected for very incorrect reasons. Many of those applicants to not bother appealing. And so each of those rejections stands (i.e. is never challenged).

Sometimes people then move on to reapply, and sometimes they think to themselves that the hassle of visiting the UK is too much and so they go on vacation somewhere else.

Lucapooka wrote:
The number of applications that were not legitimate and were not appealed or re-applied is, perhaps, beyond the scope of this discussion?

Why exactly are you being so harsh with this poster's question?


WalexK, Good question! https://dl.dropbox.com/u/27885818/UK/UKBA-EEAFP-issued-refused-2011.xls is a spreadsheet with the EEA FP refusal statistics for various posts. For Germany/France the relevant posts are:
Dusseldorf 6%
"UK Visa Section" 9%
Paris 7%


Many thanks for your quick respond, Directive 2004/38/EC. This is exactly what I have been searching for. I have look through all the forum, I cannot get these results. I am trying to compare different countries Refusal rate, most especially those countries from Europe.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Were you able to open the spreadsheet? If you have any problems at all, let me know. I can also do it as a PDF for you sorted in any particular order
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