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vinny Moderator
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:25 am Post subject: Watch out old work permit holders |
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Watch out old work permit holders _________________ We do not inherit the Earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children. |
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Greenie Guru
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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Potentially helpful case for old work permit holders applying for ILR in particular that the tribunal held that the requirement for salary to meet the minimum as set out in the Code of Practice would not be appropriate in the case of a work permit holder who has never needed a certificate of sponsorship.
Philipson (ILR – not PBS: evidence) India [2012] UKUT 00039(IAC)
i) A decision on an application under rule 134 of the Immigration Rules for indefinite leave to remain is a not a points-based decision to which s.85A of the Nationality, Immigration and Asylum Act 2002 as amended by s.19 of the UK Borders Act 2007 applies.
ii) Post decision evidence of a back-dated wage increase is admissible on appeal to demonstrate compliance with rule 134(iv).
iii) It is doubtful whether rule 134(iv) applies to those who never needed a certificate of sponsorship with a salary level identified in guidance relating to such certificates.
iv) If such a person could not comply with the rules on settlement for reasons of a new salary level, there was a strong claim that leave to remain was required to respect the private life established in the reasonable expectation of settlement if the conditions for settlement applicable on arrival were adhered to, and a relatively weak case for justifying interference with such private life to promote a legitimate public interest recognised by Article 8(2) ECHR. |
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vinny Moderator
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Joe21 Newbie
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:22 pm Post subject: Re-Good news |
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Hi so what will the HO do to those of us already refused based on this code of practice, any ideas?. _________________ Settlement |
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bump Junior Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:08 pm Post subject: ilr- work permit holder |
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i got rejected on COP criteria. i know some other guys with the same fate. does this mean we have a chance of appeal?
can anyone give any answer please? |
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Vishal100 Newbie
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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Guys mean if there is a judicial review for all old style work permit holders there are good changes considering the recent judgement in our favour.
Has any one placed a Judicial review application yet?
I am planning to go ahead as I am not getting pay rise, does any one know good solicitors basically expert in Judicial review process of immigration matters.
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Vishal |
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Joe21 Newbie
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:41 pm Post subject: Re: ilr- work permit holder |
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When were you rejected as mine was rejected this month though waiting for my passport. _________________ Settlement |
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Joe21 Newbie
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:47 pm Post subject: Re-Old Work Permit |
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Have you got your passport from them? So this decision means the HO should automatically review its policy on that code and recalled all those rejected for review. _________________ Settlement |
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Vishal100 Newbie
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
I made application via premium service on 2nd Nov.2011 and received back my passport with rejection on 13th Dec. 2011.
Does it mean with this decision the new application made would be granted settlement and will Home office case worker keep this decision in mind with assessing the application now?
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Vishal |
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vinny Moderator
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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Ask for a reconsideration based on the new case law. If you have a right of appeal, then appeal within the time limit. _________________ We do not inherit the Earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children. |
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Vishal100 Newbie
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
I have already made the reconsideration once on 6th Jan.2012 and received the response from Home Office on 23rd Jan. that this issue is something related to policy introduce on 6th April 2011
They will pass it to Migration Policy team and give me feedback but haven't heard anything yet.
Shall I send them another re-consideration letter
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Vishal |
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Joe21 Newbie
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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Does HO received this notification and hence to change that policy on their website? _________________ Settlement |
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Vishal100 Newbie
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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Dear All,
Have been discussing the recent judgment with Barristers but, it’s not entirely in favor of work permit holder as the appellant already had letter of pay rise which was back date hence they partially full fill the income requirement.
I am planning Judicial Review process for Old work permit holder especially for people who cannot meet the income criteria, for those who are already been refused and no way out.
Please get in touch to me with your situation as I would need more evidence to make the case stronger.
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Vishal Parekh
Graduate_Vishal@yahoo.co.uk
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Vishal100 Newbie
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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Dear All,
I would like to draw to attention towards the Immigration Consultant / Solicitors who pretends the law is NOT applicable to old style work permit holder. But, actually that is NOT the case it is applicable to EVERY ONE, in order to make you there client they lie to you as if the law does not exist for old style work permit holder please be careful.
Kind Regards
Vishal |
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customer_s Newbie
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:07 am Post subject: |
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| Vishal100 wrote: | Hi
I have already made the reconsideration once on 6th Jan.2012 and received the response from Home Office on 23rd Jan. that this issue is something related to policy introduce on 6th April 2011
They will pass it to Migration Policy team and give me feedback but haven't heard anything yet.
Shall I send them another re-consideration letter
Thanks
Vishal |
any outcome yet? |
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KaneBarnet Newbie
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Vishal100 wrote: | Dear All,
I would like to draw to attention towards the Immigration Consultant / Solicitors who pretends the law is NOT applicable to old style work permit holder. But, actually that is NOT the case it is applicable to EVERY ONE, in order to make you there client they lie to you as if the law does not exist for old style work permit holder please be careful.
Kind Regards
Vishal |
I have spoken to 3 firms about this and today I was advised this was not issue for old work Permit holders from 2007. Whom is correct ? |
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vinny Moderator
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lapppt Junior Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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There is somewhere in the code of practice which states that "Applicants who are currently working in the UK (either for you or for a different employer) under Tier 2 (General), Tier 2 (Intra company transfer) or a work permit must have an offer of a job at or above NQF level 3 if their original grant of leave was made before 6 April 2011 or NQF level 4 or above where their original grant of leave was made on or after 6 April 2011.": http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/employersandsponsors/pointsbasedsystem/june2012-cop/section-M.pdf?view=Binary
Does this mean that if your offer/job is on NQF 6 per the code and you are working in the UK as a work permit holder, your application will be considered at or above NQF level 3 if your original grant of leave was made before 6 April 2011? |
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memoa Junior Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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| lapppt wrote: |
There is somewhere in the code of practice which states that "Applicants who are currently working in the UK (either for you or for a different employer) under Tier 2 (General), Tier 2 (Intra company transfer) or a work permit must have an offer of a job at or above NQF level 3 if their original grant of leave was made before 6 April 2011 or NQF level 4 or above where their original grant of leave was made on or after 6 April 2011.": http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/employersandsponsors/pointsbasedsystem/june2012-cop/section-M.pdf?view=Binary
Does this mean that if your offer/job is on NQF 6 per the code and you are working in the UK as a work permit holder, your application will be considered at or above NQF level 3 if your original grant of leave was made before 6 April 2011? |
hi guys
am in psw and now i been offered job in NOF 3 my visa was after 6 of April ,, could i still apply for T2 in ?NOF as am in the UK ?? in PWS is Like the old work permit ??
pls let me know
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vc555 Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:04 pm Post subject: Re: ilr- work permit holder |
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| bump wrote: | i got rejected on COP criteria. i know some other guys with the same fate. does this mean we have a chance of appeal?
can anyone give any answer please? |
Hi,
sorry to ask, can u please explain what is COP criteria >? |
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