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hamadauk123
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| Lucapooka wrote: | You can complain now but on the basis that there are no absolute deadlines in which they must make a decision. There are performance targets in place whereby they aim to make a decision on 95% of applications within 3 months and the remainder within 6 months. If you are one of the unlucky people who fall into the 5% of applications that go beyond this target, then that's unfortunate.
We have service standards for processing UK visa applications. Our standards say that we will process:
90 per cent of non-settlement applications within 3 weeks, 98 per cent within 6 weeks and 100 per cent within 12 weeks of the application date;
and 95 per cent of settlement applications within 12 weeks of the application date and 100 per cent within 24 weeks of the application date. |
Hi lukapooka my wife she got call from embassy Thursday asking her things about me! Like how long you know him where did you met how often you spoke in phone with you . Some info we put in application basically . So what's that suppose to mean? Thanks
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garry10
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| Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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| hamadauk123 wrote: | | Lucapooka wrote: | You can complain now but on the basis that there are no absolute deadlines in which they must make a decision. There are performance targets in place whereby they aim to make a decision on 95% of applications within 3 months and the remainder within 6 months. If you are one of the unlucky people who fall into the 5% of applications that go beyond this target, then that's unfortunate.
We have service standards for processing UK visa applications. Our standards say that we will process:
90 per cent of non-settlement applications within 3 weeks, 98 per cent within 6 weeks and 100 per cent within 12 weeks of the application date;
and 95 per cent of settlement applications within 12 weeks of the application date and 100 per cent within 24 weeks of the application date. |
Hi lukapooka my wife she got call from embassy Thursday asking her things about me! Like how long you know him where did you met how often you spoke in phone with you . Some info we put in application basically . So what's that suppose to mean? Thanks |
I THINK THEY ARE CHECKING ON THE RELATIONSHIP BE READY TO GET AN ANSWER SOON
GOODLUCK
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email recived from ukba decision made 10/10/2012
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garry10
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| garry10 wrote: | | hamadauk123 wrote: | | Lucapooka wrote: | You can complain now but on the basis that there are no absolute deadlines in which they must make a decision. There are performance targets in place whereby they aim to make a decision on 95% of applications within 3 months and the remainder within 6 months. If you are one of the unlucky people who fall into the 5% of applications that go beyond this target, then that's unfortunate.
We have service standards for processing UK visa applications. Our standards say that we will process:
90 per cent of non-settlement applications within 3 weeks, 98 per cent within 6 weeks and 100 per cent within 12 weeks of the application date;
and 95 per cent of settlement applications within 12 weeks of the application date and 100 per cent within 24 weeks of the application date. |
Hi lukapooka my wife she got call from embassy Thursday asking her things about me! Like how long you know him where did you met how often you spoke in phone with you . Some info we put in application basically . So what's that suppose to mean? Thanks |
I THINK THEY ARE CHECKING ON THE RELATIONSHIP BE READY TO GET AN ANSWER SOON
GOODLUCK |
dont forget to let me know if your wife get the visa
thanks
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Arrived at visa section:28-06-2012
email recived from ukba decision made 10/10/2012
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garry10
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| Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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| hamadauk123 wrote: | | Lucapooka wrote: | You can complain now but on the basis that there are no absolute deadlines in which they must make a decision. There are performance targets in place whereby they aim to make a decision on 95% of applications within 3 months and the remainder within 6 months. If you are one of the unlucky people who fall into the 5% of applications that go beyond this target, then that's unfortunate.
We have service standards for processing UK visa applications. Our standards say that we will process:
90 per cent of non-settlement applications within 3 weeks, 98 per cent within 6 weeks and 100 per cent within 12 weeks of the application date;
and 95 per cent of settlement applications within 12 weeks of the application date and 100 per cent within 24 weeks of the application date. |
Hi lukapooka my wife she got call from embassy Thursday asking her things about me! Like how long you know him where did you met how often you spoke in phone with you . Some info we put in application basically . So what's that suppose to mean? Thanks |
hello I hope your wife get the visa. we are still waiting we hate been waiting INSHALLAH all we get it soon and we start our life like normal people AMINE
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Arrived at visa section:28-06-2012
email recived from ukba decision made 10/10/2012
visa stamped 10/10/2012
visa collected VISA APROVED ALHAMDOLLILAH 11/10/2012 |
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garry10
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| garry10 wrote: | | hamadauk123 wrote: | | Lucapooka wrote: | You can complain now but on the basis that there are no absolute deadlines in which they must make a decision. There are performance targets in place whereby they aim to make a decision on 95% of applications within 3 months and the remainder within 6 months. If you are one of the unlucky people who fall into the 5% of applications that go beyond this target, then that's unfortunate.
We have service standards for processing UK visa applications. Our standards say that we will process:
90 per cent of non-settlement applications within 3 weeks, 98 per cent within 6 weeks and 100 per cent within 12 weeks of the application date;
and 95 per cent of settlement applications within 12 weeks of the application date and 100 per cent within 24 weeks of the application date. |
Hi lukapooka my wife she got call from embassy Thursday asking her things about me! Like how long you know him where did you met how often you spoke in phone with you . Some info we put in application basically . So what's that suppose to mean? Thanks |
hello I hope your wife get the visa. we are still waiting we hate been waiting INSHALLAH all we get it soon and we start our life like normal people AMINE |
54 DAYS AND WE ARE STILL WAITING . IS ANYBODY GET THE VISA FROM ALGERIA????????
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Application submited:27-06-2012
Arrived at visa section:28-06-2012
email recived from ukba decision made 10/10/2012
visa stamped 10/10/2012
visa collected VISA APROVED ALHAMDOLLILAH 11/10/2012 |
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krip
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| hamadauk123 wrote: | | krip wrote: | | hamadauk123 wrote: | | krip wrote: | we also married in ALgeria, my husband applied for his settlement Visa in Algeirs. He has been to the British embassy many times regarding his visa, just told to wait. I have got my local MP involved now, who is also the immigration minister, so inshallah, he will be able to help. I am sure you will here soon, applying for settlement visa is a good test of patents, if nothing else.
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Thanks krip I hope you reunited with your husband soon but I recon as he got immigration history before that's maybe the case for delay. Good luck |
Inshallah i hope so. The time scale is normal for appeal. we won in a tribunal, and we won on both grounds of appeal. His case is closed and finalised, its just admin error. We paid a fortune for excellent legal team, who won our case. The appeal process always takes this amount of time, because you have to wait 6 months before your hearing date, then 28 days for decsion, then up to 3 months for call to get your Visa. Its all their time scales tht make it such a long period. As anyone would know, who have had to experience drawn out appeal process. Anyway its all worth it in theend, Inshallah. have you read this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18448733 |
Yes I heard if that I hope not the from whom his application been rejected unfairly! .But that was few months go I guess the learned lesson and acting fairly same with all applicants . |
Hi My husband got his Visa today at last.  Alhamdilliah.
How are things, hve you heard yet? I know this is such an anxious time, inshallah your will have good news. |
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garry10
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| krip wrote: | | hamadauk123 wrote: | | krip wrote: | | hamadauk123 wrote: | | krip wrote: | we also married in ALgeria, my husband applied for his settlement Visa in Algeirs. He has been to the British embassy many times regarding his visa, just told to wait. I have got my local MP involved now, who is also the immigration minister, so inshallah, he will be able to help. I am sure you will here soon, applying for settlement visa is a good test of patents, if nothing else.
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Thanks krip I hope you reunited with your husband soon but I recon as he got immigration history before that's maybe the case for delay. Good luck |
Inshallah i hope so. The time scale is normal for appeal. we won in a tribunal, and we won on both grounds of appeal. His case is closed and finalised, its just admin error. We paid a fortune for excellent legal team, who won our case. The appeal process always takes this amount of time, because you have to wait 6 months before your hearing date, then 28 days for decsion, then up to 3 months for call to get your Visa. Its all their time scales tht make it such a long period. As anyone would know, who have had to experience drawn out appeal process. Anyway its all worth it in theend, Inshallah. have you read this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18448733 |
Yes I heard if that I hope not the from whom his application been rejected unfairly! .But that was few months go I guess the learned lesson and acting fairly same with all applicants . |
Hi My husband got his Visa today at last. Alhamdilliah.
How are things, hve you heard yet? I know this is such an anxious time, inshallah your will have good news. |
CONGRATULATIONS !!!!!!!!!!! I hope we will get it soon
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Application submited:27-06-2012
Arrived at visa section:28-06-2012
email recived from ukba decision made 10/10/2012
visa stamped 10/10/2012
visa collected VISA APROVED ALHAMDOLLILAH 11/10/2012 |
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hamadauk123
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| Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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| garry10 wrote: | | krip wrote: | | hamadauk123 wrote: | | krip wrote: | | hamadauk123 wrote: | | krip wrote: | we also married in ALgeria, my husband applied for his settlement Visa in Algeirs. He has been to the British embassy many times regarding his visa, just told to wait. I have got my local MP involved now, who is also the immigration minister, so inshallah, he will be able to help. I am sure you will here soon, applying for settlement visa is a good test of patents, if nothing else.
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Thanks krip I hope you reunited with your husband soon but I recon as he got immigration history before that's maybe the case for delay. Good luck |
Inshallah i hope so. The time scale is normal for appeal. we won in a tribunal, and we won on both grounds of appeal. His case is closed and finalised, its just admin error. We paid a fortune for excellent legal team, who won our case. The appeal process always takes this amount of time, because you have to wait 6 months before your hearing date, then 28 days for decsion, then up to 3 months for call to get your Visa. Its all their time scales tht make it such a long period. As anyone would know, who have had to experience drawn out appeal process. Anyway its all worth it in theend, Inshallah. have you read this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18448733 |
Yes I heard if that I hope not the from whom his application been rejected unfairly! .But that was few months go I guess the learned lesson and acting fairly same with all applicants . |
Hi My husband got his Visa today at last. Alhamdilliah.
How are things, hve you heard yet? I know this is such an anxious time, inshallah your will have good news. |
CONGRATULATIONS !!!!!!!!!!! I hope we will get it soon |
Congrats krip hopefully all of us soon Inchalah
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Arrived at visa section:25-05-2012
email recived from ukba decision made on 17/09/12
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visa collected 20/09/12 |
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hamadauk123
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its about 4 months by next week i,couldnt wait any more  its there any one knows the phone number for ecm in appolo house to make complain  thanks
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garry10
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| hamadauk123 wrote: | | its about 4 months by next week i,couldnt wait any more its there any one knows the phone number for ecm in appolo house to make complain thanks |
we cant wait too it has been almost 3 months .we sold our car today ready to go but I didnt get the visa yet
try to send them an email to enquire but be polite ; we send them an email 2 weeks ago and they said if we havent heard by 12 weeks get back to them
https://www.visainfoservices.com/Pages/SendAnEmail.aspx
the processing time has been changed .42 decisions in August ;76% in 60 days and 100% IN 90 days;I can understand from this not many people are applying for settlement now its going to be faster
I think I am talking to myself in this forum lol
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Application submited:27-06-2012
Arrived at visa section:28-06-2012
email recived from ukba decision made 10/10/2012
visa stamped 10/10/2012
visa collected VISA APROVED ALHAMDOLLILAH 11/10/2012 |
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hamadauk123
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| garry10 wrote: | | hamadauk123 wrote: | | its about 4 months by next week i,couldnt wait any more its there any one knows the phone number for ecm in appolo house to make complain thanks |
we cant wait too it has been almost 3 months .we sold our car today ready to go but I didnt get the visa yet
try to send them an email to enquire but be polite ; we send them an email 2 weeks ago and they said if we havent heard by 12 weeks get back to them
https://www.visainfoservices.com/Pages/SendAnEmail.aspx
the processing time has been changed .42 decisions in August ;76% in 60 days and 100% IN 90 days;I can understand from this not many people are applying for settlement now its going to be faster
I think I am talking to myself in this forum lol |
hi farid i,m here lol. i have spoke to to worldbridge they said evry decision left in appolo house in london they will clear ir by next week cuz ecm offices for algeria they moving from london to paris so we will should get answer by next week inchallah by the way i recieved email from london they told me they made decision for my wife visa 17-09-12 you will be contacted by worldbridge very soon, plz pray for me to get possitive answer. by sunday. good luck
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Application submited:24-05-2012
Arrived at visa section:25-05-2012
email recived from ukba decision made on 17/09/12
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garry10
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| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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| hamadauk123 wrote: | | garry10 wrote: | | hamadauk123 wrote: | | its about 4 months by next week i,couldnt wait any more its there any one knows the phone number for ecm in appolo house to make complain thanks |
we cant wait too it has been almost 3 months .we sold our car today ready to go but I didnt get the visa yet
try to send them an email to enquire but be polite ; we send them an email 2 weeks ago and they said if we havent heard by 12 weeks get back to them
https://www.visainfoservices.com/Pages/SendAnEmail.aspx
the processing time has been changed .42 decisions in August ;76% in 60 days and 100% IN 90 days;I can understand from this not many people are applying for settlement now its going to be faster
I think I am talking to myself in this forum lol |
hi farid i,m here lol. i have spoke to to worldbridge they said evry decision left in appolo house in london they will clear ir by next week cuz ecm offices for algeria they moving from london to paris so we will should get answer by next week inchallah by the way i recieved email from london they told me they made decision for my wife visa 17-09-12 you will be contacted by worldbridge very soon, plz pray for me to get possitive answer. by sunday. good luck |
Realy good news that you finally have a decision.I will pray that it is your wife has her visa .How do you know I will be contacted very soon?
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Application submited:27-06-2012
Arrived at visa section:28-06-2012
email recived from ukba decision made 10/10/2012
visa stamped 10/10/2012
visa collected VISA APROVED ALHAMDOLLILAH 11/10/2012 |
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garry10
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| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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| garry10 wrote: | | hamadauk123 wrote: | | garry10 wrote: | | hamadauk123 wrote: | | its about 4 months by next week i,couldnt wait any more its there any one knows the phone number for ecm in appolo house to make complain thanks |
we cant wait too it has been almost 3 months .we sold our car today ready to go but I didnt get the visa yet
try to send them an email to enquire but be polite ; we send them an email 2 weeks ago and they said if we havent heard by 12 weeks get back to them
https://www.visainfoservices.com/Pages/SendAnEmail.aspx
the processing time has been changed .42 decisions in August ;76% in 60 days and 100% IN 90 days;I can understand from this not many people are applying for settlement now its going to be faster
I think I am talking to myself in this forum lol |
hi farid i,m here lol. i have spoke to to worldbridge they said evry decision left in appolo house in london they will clear ir by next week cuz ecm offices for algeria they moving from london to paris so we will should get answer by next week inchallah by the way i recieved email from london they told me they made decision for my wife visa 17-09-12 you will be contacted by worldbridge very soon, plz pray for me to get possitive answer. by sunday. good luck |
Realy good news that you finally have a decision.I will pray that it is your wife has her visa .How do you know I will be contacted very soon? |
are you saying that all the applications submited before the 16 of september are staying at apolo house and thats is why you say I will hear soon because they will not send my application to paris
thanks
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Application submited:27-06-2012
Arrived at visa section:28-06-2012
email recived from ukba decision made 10/10/2012
visa stamped 10/10/2012
visa collected VISA APROVED ALHAMDOLLILAH 11/10/2012 |
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hamadauk123
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| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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| garry10 wrote: | | garry10 wrote: | | hamadauk123 wrote: | | garry10 wrote: | | hamadauk123 wrote: | | its about 4 months by next week i,couldnt wait any more its there any one knows the phone number for ecm in appolo house to make complain thanks |
we cant wait too it has been almost 3 months .we sold our car today ready to go but I didnt get the visa yet
try to send them an email to enquire but be polite ; we send them an email 2 weeks ago and they said if we havent heard by 12 weeks get back to them
https://www.visainfoservices.com/Pages/SendAnEmail.aspx
the processing time has been changed .42 decisions in August ;76% in 60 days and 100% IN 90 days;I can understand from this not many people are applying for settlement now its going to be faster
I think I am talking to myself in this forum lol |
hi farid i,m here lol. i have spoke to to worldbridge they said evry decision left in appolo house in london they will clear ir by next week cuz ecm offices for algeria they moving from london to paris so we will should get answer by next week inchallah by the way i recieved email from london they told me they made decision for my wife visa 17-09-12 you will be contacted by worldbridge very soon, plz pray for me to get possitive answer. by sunday. good luck |
Realy good news that you finally have a decision.I will pray that it is your wife has her visa .How do you know I will be contacted very soon? |
are you saying that all the applications submited before the 16 of september are staying at apolo house and thats is why you say I will hear soon because they will not send my application to paris
thanks |
inchallah all of us. i have called the worldbridge today and she told me that all application b4 the 16th they will sent back to algeria with decision by next next week unless if sh,s lieing to me ! you can send email to visa section in london as i did but they took them to reply after 24 days.
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Application submited:24-05-2012
Arrived at visa section:25-05-2012
email recived from ukba decision made on 17/09/12
visa stamped 18/09/12
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garry10
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| hamadauk123 wrote: | | garry10 wrote: | | garry10 wrote: | | hamadauk123 wrote: | | garry10 wrote: | | hamadauk123 wrote: | | its about 4 months by next week i,couldnt wait any more its there any one knows the phone number for ecm in appolo house to make complain thanks |
we cant wait too it has been almost 3 months .we sold our car today ready to go but I didnt get the visa yet
try to send them an email to enquire but be polite ; we send them an email 2 weeks ago and they said if we havent heard by 12 weeks get back to them
https://www.visainfoservices.com/Pages/SendAnEmail.aspx
the processing time has been changed .42 decisions in August ;76% in 60 days and 100% IN 90 days;I can understand from this not many people are applying for settlement now its going to be faster
I think I am talking to myself in this forum lol |
hi farid i,m here lol. i have spoke to to worldbridge they said evry decision left in appolo house in london they will clear ir by next week cuz ecm offices for algeria they moving from london to paris so we will should get answer by next week inchallah by the way i recieved email from london they told me they made decision for my wife visa 17-09-12 you will be contacted by worldbridge very soon, plz pray for me to get possitive answer. by sunday. good luck |
Realy good news that you finally have a decision.I will pray that it is your wife has her visa .How do you know I will be contacted very soon? |
are you saying that all the applications submited before the 16 of september are staying at apolo house and thats is why you say I will hear soon because they will not send my application to paris
thanks |
inchallah all of us. i have called the worldbridge today and she told me that all application b4 the 16th they will sent back to algeria with decision by next next week unless if sh,s lieing to me ! you can send email to visa section in london as i did but they took them to reply after 24 days. |
can you give the phone number you you called please ?
Thanks for your time
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hamadauk123
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no problem 021770122 you have to keep ringing till they answer the phone.
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garry10
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| hamadauk123 wrote: | | no problem 021770122 you have to keep ringing till they answer the phone. |
Thanks hope your wife will get it
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garry10
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| garry10 wrote: | | hamadauk123 wrote: | | no problem 021770122 you have to keep ringing till they answer the phone. |
Thanks hope your wife will get it |
HI hamadauk can check if they have changed the status in wroldbridg tracking webside ?.I phoned them all day no answer
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garry10
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| garry10 wrote: | | garry10 wrote: | | hamadauk123 wrote: | | no problem 021770122 you have to keep ringing till they answer the phone. |
Thanks hope your wife will get it |
HI hamadauk can you check if they have changed the status in wroldbridg tracking webside ?.I phoned them all day no answer |
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hamadauk123
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my decision its ready for pickup tomorrow morning my wife will go there and see whats happened inchalah she will get it and i can say nightmare its over inchalah. you have to keep calling till they answer farid i kept ringing for half day till they answered. try in midday between 12 to 1.good luck
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Application submited:24-05-2012
Arrived at visa section:25-05-2012
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