10 years long residence applications

[coolboyuk]

any more good newses people ?

[oluwa112]

Here is the updated list if anyone wants to add themselves on:
RECEIVED APPLICATION
Rajj applied on 15/07/09 received 17/12/09 WAITED FOR 22.1 weeks
Haha applied on 24/07/09 received 25/11/09 WAITED FOR 17.7 weeks
Oluwa112 applied 10/08/08 and received 17/02/10: WAITED FOR 27.3 weeks
Croydon applied 17/08/09 received 23/03/10 WAITED FOR 31.1 weeks
Foxy applied 24/08/09 received 27/03/10 WAITED FOR 30.5 weeks

STILL PENDING: under 10 years lawful SET(O) category

NoWayOut applied on 03/08/09 and is still waiting: now 33.5 weeks
Sheng applied on 05/08/09 and is still waiting: now 33.3 weeks
Boonbin applied on 10/08/09 and is still waiting: now 32.5 weeks
Kingie67applied 17/08/09 and is still waiting: now 31.5 weeks
Dolf applied 24/08/09 and is still waiting: now 30.5 weeks
CLS applied 27/08/09 and is still waiting: now 30.2 weeks
Thms applied 28/08/09 and is still waiting: now 30.1 weeks
Terriblefish applied 08/09/09 and still waiting: now 28.4 weeks
Taylondon applied 11/09/09 and is still waiting: now 28.1 weeks
Hangermajor applied 17/09/09 and is still waiting: now 27.2 weeks

SO sad the the number of waiting weeks keep going up!! But then it is good news that between Feb 17th and March 27th we have heard 3 sucessful stories. This could be a good sign. I was the 1st Recipient in 2010.

[oluwa112]

Hello all,

Some good news, finally!!

Got the passport back in the post this morning, ILR issued from 02 March 2010.

I only received my passports back, but my KOL certificate was not returned? Anybody know if this is normal?

Very relieved this is all over, I hope the rest of the August 2009 and later crew get their paperwork soon. It appears there is some more delay in posting as well as mine came around 3.5 weeks after my decision.

Congratulations!!! So pleased for you and Welcome to the Freedom Zone!!

[coolboyuk]

congrats Foxy. must be over the moon now..lol

[kiwigirl25]

It's okay, think of it as my congrats present to you

[foxy]

Thanks again chaps

Kiwigal, thanks for digging up the rulebook. Much appreciated. TBH, I'd rather just do the tick box. I simply do not see myself trying to call the UKBA hotline again, if they return it, then great. Otherwise, the ticking will suffice!

I forgot to mention my application was done in Liverpool, so perhaps those who applied before me but haven't received theirs yet may be at Sheffield, so, hopefully soon guys. Will watch out this thread for sure!

[kiwigirl25]

I only received my passports back, but my KOL certificate was not returned? Anybody know if this is normal?

Call HO to enquire as you may need KOL certificate again when you apply for citizenship.

The UKBA site says

If you satisfied the settlement-stage requirements to have sufficient knowledge of language and life in the United Kingdom you do not have to do it again. Simply tick the appropriate box in section 1.20 of the application form.

Section 1.22 (not 1.20) ô

[aman5]

I only received my passports back, but my KOL certificate was not returned? Anybody know if this is normal?

Call HO to enquire as you may need KOL certificate again when you apply for citizenship.

[aman5]

Congratulations foxy....major hurdle now crossed....progress towards citizenship process got a lot more closer....

[NoWayOut]

Hello all,

Some good news, finally!!

Got the passport back in the post this morning, ILR issued from 02 March 2010.

I only received my passports back, but my KOL certificate was not returned? Anybody know if this is normal?

Very relieved this is all over, I hope the rest of the August 2009 and later crew get their paperwork soon. It appears there is some more delay in posting as well as mine came around 3.5 weeks after my decision.

Congratulations Foxy!! I'm so happy for you.
It must be such a huge relief!

Here is the updated list if anyone wants to add themselves on:

RECEIVED APPLICATION
Rajj applied on 15/07/09 received 17/12/09 WAITED FOR 22.1 weeks
Haha applied on 24/07/09 received 25/11/09 WAITED FOR 17.7 weeks
Oluwa112 applied 10/08/08 and received 17/02/10: WAITED FOR 27.3 weeks
Croydon applied 17/08/09 received 23/03/10 WAITED FOR 31.1 weeks
Foxy applied 24/08/09 received 27/03/10 WAITED FOR 30.5 weeks

STILL PENDING: under 10 years lawful SET(O) category

NoWayOut applied on 03/08/09 and is still waiting: now 33.5 weeks
Sheng applied on 05/08/09 and is still waiting: now 33.3 weeks
Boonbin applied on 10/08/09 and is still waiting: now 32.5 weeks
Kingie67applied 17/08/09 and is still waiting: now 31.5 weeks
Dolf applied 24/08/09 and is still waiting: now 30.5 weeks
CLS applied 27/08/09 and is still waiting: now 30.2 weeks
Thms applied 28/08/09 and is still waiting: now 30.1 weeks
Terriblefish applied 08/09/09 and still waiting: now 28.4 weeks
Taylondon applied 11/09/09 and is still waiting: now 28.1 weeks
Hangermajor applied 17/09/09 and is still waiting: now 27.2 weeks

[foxy]

Hi Foxy, since your ILR issued on 02 March.
did you called HO between 02 march - 28 march to find out the progress of your application? what replied do you get? i just wondering if your ILR granted on 02 march and they still tell you that your application not yet been decided?

No, I didn't call them between those dates. However, the letter received by my MP which stated my application was under active consideration was dated 10 March 2010, so I am not too sure what the process is to be honest.

did you applied via solicator?

No. Just sent in a postal one.

did you received any letter saying your case under queue for awaiting consideration or under active consideration?

Yes, as above.

did you received any letter before you granted ILR?

No, didn't receive the first letter as I know some people did here.

what is the KOL cert?

The Knowledge Of Life in the UK test certificate which we have to send anyway.

looking forward to hearing from you. Cheers. enjoy your life with ILR now and you are officially out of the list now. Congratulation

Thanks - It's a big relief I have to admit. Hope you guys get yours soon. Will be sticking around anyway, this forum has been a lot of help!

[boonbin]

Got the passport back in the post this morning, ILR issued from 02 March 2010.

I only received my passports back, but my KOL certificate was not returned? Anybody know if this is normal?

Hi Foxy, since your ILR issued on 02 March.
did you called HO between 02 march - 28 march to find out the progress of your application? what replied do you get? i just wondering if your ILR granted on 02 march and they still tell you that your application not yet been decided?

did you applied via solicator?

did you received any letter saying your case under queue for awaiting consideration or under active consideration?

did you received any letter before you granted ILR?

what is the KOL cert?

looking forward to hearing from you. Cheers. enjoy your life with ILR now and you are officially out of the list now. Congratulation

[boonbin]

Hello all,

Some good news, finally!!

Got the passport back in the post this morning, ILR issued from 02 March 2010.

I only received my passports back, but my KOL certificate was not returned? Anybody know if this is normal?

Very relieved this is all over, I hope the rest of the August 2009 and later crew get their paperwork soon. It appears there is some more delay in posting as well as mine came around 3.5 weeks after my decision.

Dear Foxy,
great to heard that you finally got it and relieved now!!

received letter from Phil Woolas (Minister of Border and immigration) today confirmed that my application under active consideration. they are look to complete their consideration as soon as they can.

hopefully can hear something back next week and real progress and decision will be made. wishes all good luck

[foxy]

Hello all,

Some good news, finally!!

Got the passport back in the post this morning, ILR issued from 02 March 2010.

I only received my passports back, but my KOL certificate was not returned? Anybody know if this is normal?

Very relieved this is all over, I hope the rest of the August 2009 and later crew get their paperwork soon. It appears there is some more delay in posting as well as mine came around 3.5 weeks after my decision.

[kiwigirl25]

Hi boonbin

That was interesting Saturday morning reading.

My question is based on the average processing time for over 6 months as I think the figure is too great for a 10 year legal application. Taking the sample applications on this site, the average appears to be approx 30 weeks which is, roughly (very), 150 working days (I've not calculated bank hols).

They have confirmed that asylum cases aren't considered with this category but are 14 year long term residency (legal/illegal) cases considered along side 10 years applications? Are these statistics solely 10 or a combination of both criteria? If 14 year apps are included in these stats then this is not a true representation of 10 year legal applications and may over-inflated the stats provided.

My only other question would echo aman's point 3 - what criteria takes an application over the 6 month SLA? What makes an application "difficult"?

[boonbin]

which mean that for those wait over 6 months likely to wait 563 days to 2,060 days.

That's not strictly true. The average is 563 days not the minimum. 2,060 is just the maximum figure.

Also, consider that they count in working days (presumably to make the figures look smaller!), so 563 working days are in fact 788 days of actual waiting time (bank holidays excluded). That's an average of over 2 years!!!

The data you asked for also goes back to February 2009. We know that prior to August 2009, their record was relatively good with respect to 10 year ILRs, so I suspect a lot of the applications that fell within the 6 months are from the period February 2009-July 2009 and are skewing these figures with respect to the situation we now find ourselves in. Even so, as aman5 pointed out, their success rate of managing applications within 6 months falls well below 95%.

I suspect if another FOI was made this time looking at applications received between August 2009 and February 2010 for 10 year ILRs only, the figures we get would paint a very very sombre picture indeed.

i will response to FOI with the points from aman5, also will request new figures from period of 08/2009 - 02/2010.
is anyone can suggest some good points to ask FOI? please tell me, so i will request to them as well....

[aman5]

Further query(s) in connection with 10 year continuous legal stay ILR.

1. (A) How many caseworkers (actual numbers) are exclusively dealing with '10 year continuous legal stay' ILR applications at the UKBA?

(B) Any steps being initiated by the UKBA to increase the number of caseworkers dealing with '10 year continuous legal stay' ILR applications as from 1st Jan. 2010 all '10 year continuous legal stay' ILR applications are to be sent to the UKBA by post?

2. Is there any internal targets set by the UKBA as to how many minimum number of applications of '10 year continuous legal stay' ILR should be dealt by caseworkers, on an average, at the UKBA every day?

3. What is the criterion when deciding the sort of cases of '10 years continuous legal stay' ILR that normally fall in a category that are to dealt within six months and cases which normally take more than 6 months to arrive at a decision?

4. What is the basis of allocating '10 year continuous legal stay' ILR applications to various centres (e.g. Croydon, Liverpool, Sheffield etc) in UK?

5. Once an applicant has sent his '10 year continuous legal stay' ILR application to the UKBA and wants to sent some further documents to support his/her application, how does he/she find out which center is dealing with his/her application? Calling Home Office on the phone to enquire rarely achieves any results as people taking the calls at the call centers sometimes are not very helpfull in providing the necessary information to applicants.

6. Out of an average of 100 '10 year continuous legal stay' ILR applications received by the UKBA, how many of applications falling under this '10 year continuous legal stay' ILR category (in percentage terms) get a positive outcome?

7. (A) What is the interval of review as to whether the target of 95% applications '10 year continuous legal stay' ILRs decided within 6 months is being actually met by the caseworkers dealing with such applications?

(B) What steps have been taken in the last one year to speed up the process to clear the backlog as from 1st Jan. 2010 all '10 year continuous legal stay' ILR applications would only be accepted by post. This may significantly increase the number of applications received in this category this year (as opposed to last year when some of these applications were being decided also by the same day premium service).

[aman5]

I can confirm that applications made under 10 Years Long Residence are not routinely considered within Asylum casework units.

So what are the non-routine circumstances then under which 10 year Long Residence applications may be sometimes considered along with Asylum caseworker units?

[foxy]

which mean that for those wait over 6 months likely to wait 563 days to 2,060 days.

That's not strictly true. The average is 563 days not the minimum. 2,060 is just the maximum figure.

Also, consider that they count in working days (presumably to make the figures look smaller!), so 563 working days are in fact 788 days of actual waiting time (bank holidays excluded). That's an average of over 2 years!!!

The data you asked for also goes back to February 2009. We know that prior to August 2009, their record was relatively good with respect to 10 year ILRs, so I suspect a lot of the applications that fell within the 6 months are from the period February 2009-July 2009 and are skewing these figures with respect to the situation we now find ourselves in. Even so, as aman5 pointed out, their success rate of managing applications within 6 months falls well below 95%.

I suspect if another FOI was made this time looking at applications received between August 2009 and February 2010 for 10 year ILRs only, the figures we get would paint a very very sombre picture indeed.

[boonbin]

Please correct my calculation if I have goofed up (in my calculation) but 3890 (decisions within 6 months) divided by total 5090 decisions taken by HO in last one year comes to 76.42%.

So how come HO is claiming 95% of decisions are taken within 6 months?

that is a good question to ask again from them, but the main points are.....
Average Consideration Time in Working Days (For Over 6mths) 563
Maximum Consideration Time in Working Days 2,060

which mean that for those wait over 6 months likely to wait 563 days to 2,060 days.

[aman5]

Please correct my calculation if I have goofed up (in my calculation) but 3890 (decisions within 6 months) divided by total of 5090 decisions taken by the UKBA last year (Feb. 2009 to Feb. 2010) comes to 76.42%.

So how come the UKBA is claiming 95% of decisions are taken within 6 months?

[boonbin]

I got replied from FOI which can share with you all stated below:

Thank you for your enquiry of 11 March in which you have requested information regarding Indefinite Leave to Remain (ILR) applications pertaining to 10 years continuous stay. This has been dealt with under the Freedom of Information Act 2000.

1)
UKBA website waiting time:
•decide 95% of postal applications within six months; and
•decide 90% of applications made in person at a public enquiry
office within 24 hours.

1.If applicants apply on premium service they will get their ILR
with in 24 hours. If applicants send it through post then it may
take 6 months or more. Premium service paid £200 more than postal
applicant so that they get more privilege?

Ans: 1) Applications made at the Public Enquiry Office PEO are charged at a higher rate due to the increased processing costs involved in turning an application around in one day.

2)
From 1st January 2010 UKBA stopped accepting same day applications
for people applying under 10 years continuous legal stay in UK
category.

Would appreciate if exact reason is disclosed for withdrawing the
same day facility for people applying under '10 years continuous
legal stay in UK' ILR while still allowing some other categories
applying for ILR the facility to apply under the same day premium
service facility as this directive could be perhaps highly
discriminatory in nature.

Ans: 2) PEO provides a same day premium service for straightforward immigration applications. This service attracts a higher fee than an application that is submitted by post. Every effort is made to complete a case on the same day, but it has become increasingly difficult to provide a premium service for applications made on the basis of length of residence.

The fact that there have been significant changes to Immigration Rules over recent years, and that applications made on the basis of residence can cover a wide variety of immigration categories over the period in question, means that cases often take longer than a day to complete. The PEO have given a commitment to the Home Affairs Committee to review and monitor case types in the PEO and to ensure unsuitable cases are removed from the list of services provided. In view of the fact that these cases are no longer straightforward, and acceptance of such cases in the PEO results in applicants having to pay a premium charge, it is not considered appropriate or reasonable to accept premium applications in this category where a premium service may not be delivered.

This change was laid out in the Statement of Changes in Immigration Rules laid before Parliament on 10 December 2009 under section 3(2) of the Immigration Act 1971.

3)
Accordingly on UKBA website waiting time for ILR applications for
long stay applications is as follows:

• UKBA decides 95% of postal applications within six months;

Please could you give a exact breakdown (actual numbers) of
application received between 1st February 2009 and 28th February
2010 under ‘10 years continuous legal stay in UK’ indefinite leave
to remain category and how many of these applications (actual
numbers) were decided within 6 months?

Please could you also in your reply give exact breakdown of number
of cases which UKBA took more than 6 months to decide between the
period 1st Feb. 2009 and 28th Feb 2010?

Also, what was the average time as well as maximum time taken to
decide cases which fall in the remaining 5% that do not get a
decision within 6 months of their ILR applications?

ANS:
3) Please see the table below in answer to question 3. We have provided the following information because applications submitted on 28th February 2010 are still being considered and we are therefore unable to provide accurate information.

We have therefore supplied the following information:

- Number of applications received in this date period.
- Number of applications decided in this date period
(although the decided applications may have been submitted before the 1st Feb 2009 date).
- Number of decisions made within 6 months.
- Number of decisions made outside 6 months.
- The average consideration time for cases made outside 6 months.
- The maximum consideration time for cases made outside 6 months.

Applications 5,270
Decisions 5,090
Decisions (Within 6mths) 3,890
Decisions (Over 6mths) 1,200
Average Consideration Time in Working Days (For Over 6mths) 563
Maximum Consideration Time in Working Days 2,060
Notes:
1. Applications based on cases raised between the 1 Feb 2009 and the 28 Feb 2010.
2. Decision, Average and Maximum figures based on cases despatched between the 1 Feb 2009 and the 28 Feb 2010.
3. All figures rounded to the nearest 5 (except the average).
4. Figures based on local Management Information only and are not subject to National Statistics Protocol. The figures are therefore provisional and subject to change.

4)
please could UKBA confirm whether when processing
applications, applications under '10 years continuous lawful stay
in UK' ILR category are clubbed along with asylum applications in
UKBA i.e. caseworkers of a particular unit in UKBA who are assigned
to deal with asylum applications are also assigned to deal with '10
years continuous legal stay in UK' applications?

ANS: 4) I can confirm that applications made under 10 Years Long Residence are not routinely considered within Asylum casework units.

[thms]

10 years long residency :

I called home office today , luckily today I found a nice lady on the phone and very gentle , i told her about my situation of a long wait nearly 6 months and one week , she did not speak to me like a robot or other people in the past ,, I asked her what is going on with my case ,, she said it is nearly completed and they have not dispached documents yet,,,, she also said very soon you will hear from us ,,,,,,,,,,,

what do you think about this ? I think I will hear in a week or 2 weeks time ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,god help me and I pray for each and every one to get their positive result as soon as possible.

Please write if anyone has a progress,,,,,,,,,,thanks

hangermajor

Fingers crossed Hangermajor..... I did not have such luck this morning when I called. The stoned voiced lady who answered my call told me she is unable to give any info other than " your application is not yet completed". Very frustrating.

[SBT_Owner]

PS I like kiwigal better than "girl". Wonder if the mods will let me change my name

That is possible dear . I myself had a name change a month or so ago , if you wish to have your id changed all you need to do is send a private message to John

He mention name changes in this thread >> http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=50959 .

[coolboyuk]

ha..ha. i dont think you can change the user name now. but I [or we] will call you kiwigal25 from now on if that makes you happy...lol