10 years long residence applications

[niceguy123]

I got My ILR on 20th so thought will update you guys for case study. My situation was below:

Came in UK 2004 as student.
Extended as student until 2012. completed under grad and post grad education
PSW 2012 - 2014

I applied for tier 1 entrepreneur visa in Jan 2014. Visa refused in Aug 2014 alleging deception. Appealed against HO decision, heard in Nov 2014 and appeal was allowed in Dec 2014 saying not in accordance of immigration rules remitted back to security offices asking to determine the application on other criteria of application to meet the requirement for issuance if visa.

I completed my 10 year in Dec 2014 so varied the application to ILR in Jan 2015 before decision was made by HO. I received acknowledgement and a further letter that application involves HR issued so service time do not apply. No Bio-metric letter received and fee not deducted from bank account.

In March 2015 I receive my Tier 1 entrepreneur visa with passport and all supporting docs of Tier 1 and ILR returned !!! I had varied the application in Jan 2015!! In the same correspondence they returned all supporting docs sent with Tier 1 and ILR application except application forms. No Explanation given

We wrote to HO in March 2015 asking the status of ILR application but as usual they never reply

Wrote to them again in April 2015, no reply

I called HO and they said there is an outstanding ILR application and our letter passed to case handler.

Called HO about 10 time explaining situation, every time person answering HO phone calls, query was raised to security office about bio-metric, fee, docs returned etc, but no reply.

In August 2015 withdrew application via online, no reply given. another progress request sent, no reply. Wrote to them about this , again no reply.

Called HO they said request received but need actioning!!!!

Basically they had made a mistake of not dealing with variation of leave and returned docs to me and now had nothing with them to consider application.

I booked premium service and application was dealt in about 1 hour 30 minutes with grant of ILR.

Thank you for your support.

Regards,

[MoiMichMe]

Hi all, my 10 years was on the basis of Tier 4 student (5 years) + PSW (2 years) + 7 months waiting for HO to approve FLR(M) visa (new rules) + 2.5 years on FLR(M), and I applied a bit early so my visa wasn't expired when I sent in the application (but not a full 28 days in advance of my 10th anniversary, which was mid-Sept 2015). In 2013-2014, I spent more than 250 days out of the UK, but never more than 180 days at a time (which would have made me ineligible for SET(LR)). Also, I was out of the UK for around 500 days in total over the 10-year period. I'm happy to answer any questions people may have. It's such a relief to be free of immigration control and to know there are no more hoops to jump through! Wishing all of you this happiness soon.

[Survivor07]

Hi All

I will be applying for ILR (10 years long residence) in June 2016.

I have a MSc degree from a recognised UK university in London.

I was just wondering if my degree could suffice to provide English language assessment.

Do I need to show any other documents along with my MSc degree?

I would really appreciate it If someone could answer my question.

Regards,

As of now for your english language requirement your degree should be sufficient.

[aemrek]

Hi All

I will be applying for ILR (10 years long residence) in June 2016.

I have a MSc degree from a recognised UK university in London.

I was just wondering if my degree could suffice to provide English language assessment.

Do I need to show any other documents along with my MSc degree?

I would really appreciate it If someone could answer my question.

Regards,

[smir]

Svatuk


Remember this record is from back home India


Where they have a separate agency who do this work


They can't prove it as you had withdrawn


If you mention the a high risk and that is no doubt

If they would have sent letter then that would had been other thing

But their records dosent show

Remember for settlement they want clear record

Either you declare it or not


Oh you think you can survive till 2018 !!

What if they change the rule and stop 10 year law ?

What if they say in 2018 you can only apply Ilr if you have never used deception !!!


Just be bold and submit set Ilr

If they say their is deception then you can defend

But if you say yes then u are gone
quote="svatuk"]

@Svatuk


Keep it simple


You haven't received any letter regarding deception


So you are not guilty of deception

Don't even mention it in Set lr form

Don't dig hole for yourself

You only come to know about it when you got SAR


If it was deception you would not be able to extend your tier 1 or 4 visa


And it's just I think they were not able to verify your statement

My be just suspicious nothing else


Keep it simple


If they say you didn't declared at that time you have to defend that I was never told and after 9 years they are claiming



I don't think it should say deception but just that they were unable to verify



@smir

Many thanks for the reply.

The real worry is if I don't mention it in the application and if they find it will it be again a big mess? Because it is given in the SAR and I think while they were printing the SAR report specially priniting this refusal letter they might flagged it up on my file online and it will comes up when I apply for ILR? Don't know bro. Really very frustrating.
They had clearly mentioned 320 (7a) and (7b) in the refusal letter and futher visas will be refused for 10 years until 2018. Why the hell they had issued 4 extensions then after and we established life well here. With family kids and all. Now it is hard to go back at this age of life, start the life again from zero.

Thanks in advance

[svatuk]

[quote="smir"]@Svatuk


Keep it simple


You haven't received any letter regarding deception


So you are not guilty of deception

Don't even mention it in Set lr form

Don't dig hole for yourself

You only come to know about it when you got SAR


If it was deception you would not be able to extend your tier 1 or 4 visa


And it's just I think they were not able to verify your statement

My be just suspicious nothing else


Keep it simple


If they say you didn't declared at that time you have to defend that I was never told and after 9 years they are claiming



I don't think it should say deception but just that they were unable to verify



@smir

Many thanks for the reply.

The real worry is if I don't mention it in the application and if they find it will it be again a big mess? Because it is given in the SAR and I think while they were printing the SAR report specially priniting this refusal letter they might flagged it up on my file online and it will comes up when I apply for ILR? Don't know bro. Really very frustrating.
They had clearly mentioned 320 (7a) and (7b) in the refusal letter and futher visas will be refused for 10 years until 2018. Why the hell they had issued 4 extensions then after and we established life well here. With family kids and all. Now it is hard to go back at this age of life, start the life again from zero.

Thanks in advance

[oalondon]

Hi, I just apply for my 10 years. I last 5 years I had a dependent visa from my ex-wife, I need to prov than she was working in the time than we receiv divorc. (July 15) The problem is, after a send she's payslips I new than than account's office didn't register her yet, She is working in there since April 15.
My Question is:
The HO will check this?
What can I do now?

Thank for any help

[applicant77]

Can you help me about my 10 years long resident application please.

My immigration status are follwoing,

First Uk entry with student Visa: 12 September 2005
Student Visa Expire: 31 January 2009

Psw applied in time but refused because of something wrong with bank statements then done appeal but lost the case then done fresh application again and get PSW issued.

The period from 31 January 2009 to 25 June 2009 I was in period of 1st application send for PSW then refused then Appeal and then 2nd time re apply and got successfull PSW.

PSW Issued: 25 June 2009
Psw Expire: 25 June 2011

Then got Tier 1 General and the Tier 1 general extension which will expire 11 June 2016.

I want to go for 10 years long resident visa now as my 10 years legal residency already done.
1. Do I need to worry about my student to PSW period which I was in processing of visa-rejection- appeal- rejection- re apply??
2. With application do I need to send any covering letter?
3. Shall I go for PEO application or Postal?
4. Do I need to face any interview at PEO application?

Please help as I am not applying by any solicitor....

Please Help.........

Hi,
Please request your SAR, check if there is any break in your 10 years residency first.
You don't need a cover letter the case workers are trained to deal according to your application form.
If there is no break apply through PEO sameday if you can afford.
they dont take interviews at PEO they make decision on the documents you submit,
if they have any confusion then only they may ask you.

hi i cant receive PM, please ask anything on the forum itself

[applicant77]

Can you help me about my 10 years long resident application please.

My immigration status are follwoing,

First Uk entry with student Visa: 12 September 2005
Student Visa Expire: 31 January 2009

Psw applied in time but refused because of something wrong with bank statements then done appeal but lost the case then done fresh application again and get PSW issued.

The period from 31 January 2009 to 25 June 2009 I was in period of 1st application send for PSW then refused then Appeal and then 2nd time re apply and got successfull PSW.

PSW Issued: 25 June 2009
Psw Expire: 25 June 2011

Then got Tier 1 General and the Tier 1 general extension which will expire 11 June 2016.

I want to go for 10 years long resident visa now as my 10 years legal residency already done.
1. Do I need to worry about my student to PSW period which I was in processing of visa-rejection- appeal- rejection- re apply??
2. With application do I need to send any covering letter?
3. Shall I go for PEO application or Postal?
4. Do I need to face any interview at PEO application?

Please help as I am not applying by any solicitor....

Please Help.........

Hi,
Please request your SAR, check if there is any break in your 10 years residency first.
You don't need a cover letter the case workers are trained to deal according to your application form.
If there is no break apply through PEO sameday if you can afford.
they dont take interviews at PEO they make decision on the documents you submit,
if they have any confusion then only they may ask you.

[ishratsharhan]

I haven't received proper reply from anybody who actually have got proper knowledge about my questions. Is it for some reason?

[CR001]

NO ONE HELPED ME here ( i asked what they will ask in inteview 0 replies) this forum ussed to be very helpful long ago , i got my ilr 3 weeks ago, my 10 years in uk

When members/moderators/gurus don't reply, particularly when people post a query in a thread that is over 1100 pages long like this one, it is probably because we don't know the answer and don't want to give the wrong advice.

[tabarik77]

NO ONE HELPED ME here ( i asked what they will ask in inteview 0 replies) this forum ussed to be very helpful long ago , i got my ilr 3 weeks ago, my 10 years in uk

5 years student+2 year psw+3 years EEA2
applied on nth April 2015
received letter end of June to provide all documents for last 3 years that my wife's passport , exercising treaty rights and different bills both separate, and in joint names,and council tax etc........

i sent 3 years statements and EEA treaty hmrc letters and electoral register cards (that's all i had)
they called me for interview with my wife ,
as we were not together i emailed them that i can come for interview but my wife cant, as we separated by this time. they didn't not replied to my email but i went for interview as scheduled

interview lasted for an hour and half 6 weeks later on 3 October i received my passport and bio card.

[smir]

@Svatuk


Keep it simple


You haven't received any letter regarding deception


So you are not guilty of deception

Don't even mention it in Set lr form

Don't dig hole for yourself

You only come to know about it when you got SAR


If it was deception you would not be able to extend your tier 1 or 4 visa


And it's just I think they were not able to verify your statement

My be just suspicious nothing else


Keep it simple


If they say you didn't declared at that time you have to defend that I was never told and after 9 years they are claiming



I don't think it should say deception but just that they were unable to verify


="svatuk"]

Thx for your reply Omor.Will keep you posted.

@svatuk - You need professional advice but from what I believe you should be fine as long as you had valid leave when HSMP was refused because back in the days I remember people used to file for HSMP with valid leave by submitting docs first. Now if you were not granted HSMP and all other subsequent LTR were processed normally then there is no case of deception and moreover you have established private life in UK --you can argue that way in court if it comes down to it.Try to find a solicitor who deals with complex cases of ILR and discuss first all the costs involved including JR otherwise you ll be facing a huge bill plus VAT ( Govt wants it cut ) like my friend .

@survivor07

Hi Survivor
Many thanks for the reply.
You are correct, I was having the valid visa when my HSMP rejected.
What would you suggest in my case whether to go ahead or wait until the 10 years deceptions charges finish. Is there any possibility even after 10 years ban can they reject the ILR?

Anyway what happened to your friend, you did mentioned at the end of your post.

Regards

svatuk

It depends how cut and dry your deception case was . Was the evidence against you overwhelming?

Iam not an immigration advisor , you need professional advice. Find a firm which deals with large number of ILR cases so they should have some sort of precedent to advice you against.

My friend is out on bail on JR which is a long dark valley.

Many thanks for the reply

The deception charges were against the bank statement given by my sponsor at that time, HO said they found it as not genuine and put deception charges against me. Which I never received the deception document to appeal just find out by SAR report few weeks ago. The reason I haven't received is I withdrawn my entry clearance application after waited for 4 months and returned to UK. They've processed the enquires even after the withdrawn the application and kept the deception charges on the file.

Any suggestions about the immigration firms ?

Any advise highly appreciated

Regards

svatuk[/quote]

[svatuk]

Thx for your reply Omor.Will keep you posted.

@svatuk - You need professional advice but from what I believe you should be fine as long as you had valid leave when HSMP was refused because back in the days I remember people used to file for HSMP with valid leave by submitting docs first. Now if you were not granted HSMP and all other subsequent LTR were processed normally then there is no case of deception and moreover you have established private life in UK --you can argue that way in court if it comes down to it.Try to find a solicitor who deals with complex cases of ILR and discuss first all the costs involved including JR otherwise you ll be facing a huge bill plus VAT ( Govt wants it cut ) like my friend .

@survivor07

Hi Survivor
Many thanks for the reply.
You are correct, I was having the valid visa when my HSMP rejected.
What would you suggest in my case whether to go ahead or wait until the 10 years deceptions charges finish. Is there any possibility even after 10 years ban can they reject the ILR?

Anyway what happened to your friend, you did mentioned at the end of your post.

Regards

svatuk

It depends how cut and dry your deception case was . Was the evidence against you overwhelming?

Iam not an immigration advisor , you need professional advice. Find a firm which deals with large number of ILR cases so they should have some sort of precedent to advice you against.

My friend is out on bail on JR which is a long dark valley.

Many thanks for the reply

The deception charges were against the bank statement given by my sponsor at that time, HO said they found it as not genuine and put deception charges against me. Which I never received the deception document to appeal just find out by SAR report few weeks ago. The reason I haven't received is I withdrawn my entry clearance application after waited for 4 months and returned to UK. They've processed the enquires even after the withdrawn the application and kept the deception charges on the file.

Any suggestions about the immigration firms ?

Any advise highly appreciated

Regards

svatuk

[Xam]

By the grace of all mighty I would like to share my good news after 13 months of wait I have received my approval on Friday. Thanks to all the people who helped me and other fellow members. The reason as it took soo long cuz I did toeic in 2012. My case as follow

Applied: 29 Aug 2014
Bio done: 01 Oct 2014
Interview: 02 Sep 2015
Approval received: 09 Oct 2015

Hope you all get positive reply specially the ones who are suffering cuz of toeic..

COngratulation K4. Thank you for your post
May I have your contact number so that I can discuss my issue a bit further.

Thank you again.
Kind Regards
Xam

[Survivor07]

Thx for your reply Omor.Will keep you posted.

@svatuk - You need professional advice but from what I believe you should be fine as long as you had valid leave when HSMP was refused because back in the days I remember people used to file for HSMP with valid leave by submitting docs first. Now if you were not granted HSMP and all other subsequent LTR were processed normally then there is no case of deception and moreover you have established private life in UK --you can argue that way in court if it comes down to it.Try to find a solicitor who deals with complex cases of ILR and discuss first all the costs involved including JR otherwise you ll be facing a huge bill plus VAT ( Govt wants it cut ) like my friend .

@survivor07

Hi Survivor
Many thanks for the reply.
You are correct, I was having the valid visa when my HSMP rejected.
What would you suggest in my case whether to go ahead or wait until the 10 years deceptions charges finish. Is there any possibility even after 10 years ban can they reject the ILR?

Anyway what happened to your friend, you did mentioned at the end of your post.

Regards

svatuk

It depends how cut and dry your deception case was . Was the evidence against you overwhelming?

Iam not an immigration advisor , you need professional advice. Find a firm which deals with large number of ILR cases so they should have some sort of precedent to advice you against.

My friend is out on bail on JR which is a long dark valley.

[Arsal385]

Can you help me about my 10 years long resident application please.

My immigration status are follwoing,

First Uk entry with student Visa: 12 September 2005
Student Visa Expire: 31 January 2009

Psw applied in time but refused because of something wrong with bank statements then done appeal but lost the case then done fresh application again and get PSW issued.

The period from 31 January 2009 to 25 June 2009 I was in period of 1st application send for PSW then refused then Appeal and then 2nd time re apply and got successfull PSW.

PSW Issued: 25 June 2009
Psw Expire: 25 June 2011

Then got Tier 1 General and the Tier 1 general extension which will expire 11 June 2016.

I want to go for 10 years long resident visa now as my 10 years legal residency already done.
1. Do I need to worry about my student to PSW period which I was in processing of visa-rejection- appeal- rejection- re apply??
2. With application do I need to send any covering letter?
3. Shall I go for PEO application or Postal?
4. Do I need to face any interview at PEO application?

Please help as I am not applying by any solicitor....

Please Help.........

Request your SAR documents from HO and check if there is any out of stay period of your residency in the UK.

[Kmaj007]

You're asking too many questions at a time which mostly relates to personal choice, Going to PEO or Postal is entirely personal decision, Only you can make this decision, as in either case you will deal with UKVI.....
Ask other questions again as you've bored me already

[ishratsharhan]

Can you help me about my 10 years long resident application please.

My immigration status are follwoing,

First Uk entry with student Visa: 12 September 2005
Student Visa Expire: 31 January 2009

Psw applied in time but refused because of something wrong with bank statements then done appeal but lost the case then done fresh application again and get PSW issued.

The period from 31 January 2009 to 25 June 2009 I was in period of 1st application send for PSW then refused then Appeal and then 2nd time re apply and got successfull PSW.

PSW Issued: 25 June 2009
Psw Expire: 25 June 2011

Then got Tier 1 General and the Tier 1 general extension which will expire 11 June 2016.

I want to go for 10 years long resident visa now as my 10 years legal residency already done.
1. Do I need to worry about my student to PSW period which I was in processing of visa-rejection- appeal- rejection- re apply??
2. With application do I need to send any covering letter?
3. Shall I go for PEO application or Postal?
4. Do I need to face any interview at PEO application?

Please help as I am not applying by any solicitor....

Please Help.........

[smir]

SVatuk



In HSMP refusal did they mentioned that you used fake documents ? Or you used deception ?

Thx for your reply Omor.Will keep you posted.

@svatuk - You need professional advice but from what I believe you should be fine as long as you had valid leave when HSMP was refused because back in the days I remember people used to file for HSMP with valid leave by submitting docs first. Now if you were not granted HSMP and all other subsequent LTR were processed normally then there is no case of deception and moreover you have established private life in UK --you can argue that way in court if it comes down to it.Try to find a solicitor who deals with complex cases of ILR and discuss first all the costs involved including JR otherwise you ll be facing a huge bill plus VAT ( Govt wants it cut ) like my friend .

@survivor07

Hi Survivor
Many thanks for the reply.
You are correct, I was having the valid visa when my HSMP rejected.
What would you suggest in my case whether to go ahead or wait until the 10 years deceptions charges finish. Is there any possibility even after 10 years ban can they reject the ILR?

Anyway what happened to your friend, you did mentioned at the end of your post.

Regards

svatuk

[svatuk]

Thx for your reply Omor.Will keep you posted.

@svatuk - You need professional advice but from what I believe you should be fine as long as you had valid leave when HSMP was refused because back in the days I remember people used to file for HSMP with valid leave by submitting docs first. Now if you were not granted HSMP and all other subsequent LTR were processed normally then there is no case of deception and moreover you have established private life in UK --you can argue that way in court if it comes down to it.Try to find a solicitor who deals with complex cases of ILR and discuss first all the costs involved including JR otherwise you ll be facing a huge bill plus VAT ( Govt wants it cut ) like my friend .

@survivor07

Hi Survivor
Many thanks for the reply.
You are correct, I was having the valid visa when my HSMP rejected.
What would you suggest in my case whether to go ahead or wait until the 10 years deceptions charges finish. Is there any possibility even after 10 years ban can they reject the ILR?

Anyway what happened to your friend, you did mentioned at the end of your post.

Regards

svatuk

[affiliate]

Hi guys, need some advice from senior members please

I applied for SET LR on 14 Aug 2015, got acknowledgement & biometric letter on 06 Oct 2015…biometric given on 07 Oct 2015 and waiting!

My history as follows:

September 2005 to May 2013- Student/Tier 4.
But leave was curtailed to 20 Nov 2012 (60 days curtailment) together with decision to refuse PSW application(no right of appeal due to 60 days curtailment). THIS DECISION LETTER AND PASSPORT WAS LOST IN POST. HO acknowlwdged loss of parcel on 12 Nov 2012 but didnot tell what the decision was.
I only became aware of decision on 20 January 2013 and filed Judicial review through a solicitor, because he advised any application will be refused being out of time.

JR went on till 14 Aug 2015 and applied for ILR after withdrawing JR…

I wrote covering letter citing the Syed case in curtailment where it says decision need to communicated properly follwing which HO had to change guidance which came into effect from 01 Occt 2013 and also stating that JR was the only option to exercise a right of appeal which should have been given to me considering the circumstances then…Also stated that any application after 20 Jan 2013 and 01 Oct 2013 would have been refused stating out of time application...Also mentioned Article 8 issues…

But funny thing is on 1 Sep 2015, I received Notice of liability of removal from Sheffield stating my leave ended 20 Nov 2012. I wrote to them stating that an application is pending, they wrote back saying they found the application now but still my leave ended on 20 Nov 2012, although no action will be taken but still liable for removal... I wrote back stating curtailment rules and bla bla bla..and waiting…

Any suggestions about anything else to do??? What would be the likely outcome??? Please advice

Thank you

[ahj]

Hi folks,

I will highly appreciate your advice on situation below:

- I applied for initial Tier1 G in 2011 (Employed + part Self employed). For self employment period shown to HO was accounts closing on 28 Feb (Net profit around £10k) as I was applying in March 2011. However, when the accounts were closed at end of tax period 6th April 2011 the profit dropped to around £3k due to client not happy with services received and resulted in refund of the payment received prior to 28th Feb. Tax was then paid to hmrc on the £3k profit earned on year ending April 2011, NI contributions were paid accordingly. Please note net profit for the same year shown to HO was £10 while declared to hmrc was £3, for the reason explained earlier. Will this impact on my application for ilr, I am eligible for both LR & Set(o) next year?

-In the first year of initial Tier1 G leave my earnings dropped from the required level of earnings as I could not find any business through self employment and was only employed. However I kept paying NI contributions as I was looking for business, but eventually I had to close self employment at the end of the year. Will this impact on my application for ilr?
Please note since second year of initial Tier1 G leave for last threes I am employed and meeting the earning requirements for last three years, and extention of Tier1 G was granted in 2013.

Also, what would be the best rout for to apply for ilr in this situation LR or Set (o)?

Senior members or members who have been through situation please advice/comment.

Many thanks,

[Survivor07]

Hi everyone, just wanted to update the Google doc, but for some reason it won't let me edit anything. I'm very happy to say that I received my approval and documents via Royal Mail (signed for) yesterday, with a letter dated 13 October 2015 - so less than 2 months from when I submitted the application! I missed DX delivery of my BRP card the day before, so it'll have to be re-delivered this coming week.

Thanks to everyone on this forum for their support and advice, and best of luck to everyone still waiting!

Congrats Moi , Could you give brief specs of your case. Thx

Congrats Applicant77 .

[Sami007]

@Sami007, I cant generalise, but as long some tax and NI have been paid your friend should be alright, but dont complicated your application by submitting unecessary Documents.

Thanks very much for your advice.i am going for my own in first week of January for the same day service.