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Re: EEA2 / FM-EFM Discussion thread

Post by Garth1989 » Mon Feb 01, 2016 1:23 pm

Hi everyone

I applied for an RP at the end of October so I'm in the waiting period of 6 months now. However, my sponsor changed employment at the beginning of the year. Is it advisable to send through updated employment details to the HO ?.
From what I can see in the EEA2 guidelines, it does not mention anywhere that details need to be updated with the HO during the application process.

Any suggestions will be welcome.

Thanks

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Re: EEA2 / FM-EFM Discussion thread

Post by noajthan » Mon Feb 01, 2016 1:35 pm

Garth1989 wrote:Hi everyone

I applied for an RP at the end of October so I'm in the waiting period of 6 months now. However, my sponsor changed employment at the beginning of the year. Is it advisable to send through updated employment details to the HO ?.
From what I can see in the EEA2 guidelines, it does not mention anywhere that details need to be updated with the HO during the application process.

Any suggestions will be welcome.

Thanks
The Declaration you will have signed on the application form includes:
I confirm that if, before this application is decided, there is a material change in my circumstances or new information relevant to this application becomes available, I will inform the Home Office
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Re: EEA2 / FM-EFM Discussion thread

Post by samfam » Mon Feb 01, 2016 1:44 pm

Garth1989 wrote:Hi everyone

I applied for an RP at the end of October so I'm in the waiting period of 6 months now. However, my sponsor changed employment at the beginning of the year. Is it advisable to send through updated employment details to the HO ?.
From what I can see in the EEA2 guidelines, it does not mention anywhere that details need to be updated with the HO during the application process.

Any suggestions will be welcome.

Thanks
You should inform to HO about any kind of updates.
I got refusal on the grounds that my EEA spouse is not exercising treaty rights thats why they rejected my application EEA(FM) .What My fault was I didn't update HO about my spouses's change of employment while they were processing my application.
Application sent : 8th Feb 2016 (Postal order)
Biometric received : 26th Feb 2016
Bimoetric sent : 26th Feb 2016
COA received : 1st March 2016 (with right of work)
Decision made : 8th Aug 2016
Residence card : 12th Aug 2016

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Re: EEA2 / FM-EFM Discussion thread

Post by Garth1989 » Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:03 pm

Thank you for your response guys, I will send through the updated info to the HO.

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Re: EEA2 / FM-EFM Discussion thread

Post by galvano » Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:53 pm

Any idea whether Biometric Letter is taking longer now? It's been 2 weeks now since I applied and I still haven't received the letter!

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Re: EEA2 / FM-EFM Discussion thread

Post by nickasa » Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:28 am

alex1128 wrote:You need to send only one proof of id :)
You don't need to have two proofs or two copies of each document you are sending just fill up the two application forms and put them along all the proofs in one envelope and send !

Thank you @alex1128! it's very helpful

And another question which I'm worried about. Will HO return the original documents at the end?

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Re: EEA2 / FM-EFM Discussion thread

Post by alex1128 » Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:49 am

nickasa wrote:
alex1128 wrote:You need to send only one proof of id :)
You don't need to have two proofs or two copies of each document you are sending just fill up the two application forms and put them along all the proofs in one envelope and send !

Thank you @alex1128! it's very helpful

And another question which I'm worried about. Will HO return the original documents at the end?
All the documents you've provided will be returned in case your application is successful !
=> In case your application is not successful, the non-EEA passport will be retained by the HO.

Moreover you can request your passport back after you receive the COA :
The EEA ID will be returned without restrictions.
The Non-EEA passport will only be returned if it still has a valid visa on it .
Application sent: 25.06
Biometrics : 10/07 (dated 07/07)
COA: 29/07
Received Questionnaire: 09/11
RC : Refused ( 23/01/2016)
Appeal Filed : 25/01/2016

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Re: EEA2 / FM-EFM Discussion thread

Post by chriskv1 » Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:54 am

Any updates guys ?
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Re: EEA2 / FM-EFM Discussion thread

Post by geeb33 » Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:44 am

Hi there,

I will be applying for the EEA EFM soon with my unmarried Dutch partner who is a student in the UK. I'm on a tier 5 YMS visa ending in May. My question is - if I receive a COA with no right to work, am I able to continue working until my current visa expires? Or does the COA superseed it? Also can I argue my right to work? If it takes six months for my application to process how does the home office expect me to live in the UK waiting for my RC outcome without being able to work for months??

Thanks!

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Re: EEA2 / FM-EFM Discussion thread

Post by alex1128 » Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:33 am

The COA does not cancel your current visa !

We have had people in this forum with a similar situation, After your receive your COA you can request online your passport and visa back and you can even travel with them until it expires!
Application sent: 25.06
Biometrics : 10/07 (dated 07/07)
COA: 29/07
Received Questionnaire: 09/11
RC : Refused ( 23/01/2016)
Appeal Filed : 25/01/2016

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Re: EEA2 / FM-EFM Discussion thread

Post by j22737 » Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:50 am

Hi Everyone,

HO took my payment 4 weeks ago on 7th of Jan, but I haven't received my biometric enrollment yet.
I'm panicking, as this is taking unusually long comparing to people's timeline here.
I called the EU help line yesterday but they told me it can take up to 2 months, and they don't have access to individual cases...

Is there any other way to contact the HO?
I live in a flat, so chances are the letter could have been accidentally thrown away by neighbours. (I hope not!)

Any feedback would be appreciated!
Thank you!

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Re: EEA2 / FM-EFM Discussion thread

Post by geeb33 » Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:57 am

Hi Alex,

Thank you for your help that's great! So I am unable to travel once my YMS ends and I am waiting a response for my RC?

Thanks

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Re: EEA2 / FM-EFM Discussion thread

Post by alex1128 » Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:07 am

geeb33 wrote:Hi Alex,

Thank you for your help that's great! So I am unable to travel once my YMS ends and I am waiting a response for my RC?

Thanks
Well technically you can get out of the country easily with no problem, In order to come back you will need to apply for a family permit at a foreign british embassy (from what ive seen here nobody was able to get that family permit while the application is pending...)!

It also depends on the country you are from, if you do not require a visa to enter the UK then you wouldnt find a problem boarding an airplane on your way back, but once you are at UKBA you will need to provide the COA letter and proove that your partner is exercing treaty rights and that you have a genuine relationship in order to convince the Immigration Officer to let you in !
Application sent: 25.06
Biometrics : 10/07 (dated 07/07)
COA: 29/07
Received Questionnaire: 09/11
RC : Refused ( 23/01/2016)
Appeal Filed : 25/01/2016

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Re: EEA2 / FM-EFM Discussion thread

Post by geeb33 » Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:52 am

Oh dear okay thank you. I'm from New Zealand but don't like the sound of immigration on my return. Last question - we lived together at my parents house in New Zealand but do not have any joint documents or anything. He never changed his mail address as his parents house was a 10 minute drive away and we often went over there. What proof should I add into my application as this is part of the previous two years? Letter from his and my parents, letter from him and I, deed of property in my parents name, photos in house?

Many thanks

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Re: EEA2 / FM-EFM Discussion thread

Post by IvanovMarin » Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:38 pm

Omg. This forum is so useful.

Can I ask some questions as I'm very nervous after reading some cases.

I'm about to apply for EEA FM.

I'm on tier4 from sept 2014 until October 2016.
I was dating with a guy for two years, we married in January 2016 and I moved to his place after marriage (yes-yes only after marriage). So we are living together for two weeks now.
He is self employed (estate agent, director of his company) for 5 months now, paying him self min salary as not much profit in the beginning.
Previously he was a job-seaker for 5 year and on the benefits.

Anything I should take into account according to previous experience in order not to fail with the application?

Many thanks

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Re: EEA2 / FM-EFM Discussion thread

Post by noajthan » Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:51 pm

geeb33 wrote:Oh dear okay thank you. I'm from New Zealand but don't like the sound of immigration on my return. Last question - we lived together at my parents house in New Zealand but do not have any joint documents or anything. He never changed his mail address as his parents house was a 10 minute drive away and we often went over there. What proof should I add into my application as this is part of the previous two years? Letter from his and my parents, letter from him and I, deed of property in my parents name, photos in house?

Many thanks
Regarding proving to HO that you have a durable relationship 'akin to marriage' (ie more than boyfriend-girlfiend or fiance-fiancee type of relationship), see your post here:
eea-route-applications/eea-efm-travel-t ... l#p1297465
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Re: EEA2 / FM-EFM Discussion thread

Post by noajthan » Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:54 pm

IvanovMarin wrote:Omg. This forum is so useful.

Can I ask some questions as I'm very nervous after reading some cases.

I'm about to apply for EEA FM.

I'm on tier4 from sept 2014 until October 2016.
I was dating with a guy for two years, we married in January 2016 and I moved to his place after marriage (yes-yes only after marriage). So we are living together for two weeks now.
...

Anything I should take into account according to previous experience in order not to fail with the application?

Many thanks
Marriage is cool - congratulations.

Make sure you have unimpeachable documentary supporting evidence to back your case;
don't leave HO any 'wriggle room'.

If you are a student & are changing visa status make sure you keep your college/university fully-informed;
suggest seek confirmation in writing that they are aware & ok with it.
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Re: EEA2 / FM-EFM Discussion thread

Post by noajthan » Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:05 pm

alex1128 wrote:
geeb33 wrote:Hi Alex,

Thank you for your help that's great! So I am unable to travel once my YMS ends and I am waiting a response for my RC?

Thanks
Well technically you can get out of the country easily with no problem, In order to come back you will need to apply for a family permit at a foreign british embassy (from what ive seen here nobody was able to get that family permit while the application is pending...)!

It also depends on the country you are from, if you do not require a visa to enter the UK then you wouldnt find a problem boarding an airplane on your way back, but once you are at UKBA you will need to provide the COA letter and prove that your partner is exercing treaty rights and that you have a genuine relationship in order to convince the Immigration Officer to let you in !
This may float OP's boat:
https://eumovement.wordpress.com/2010/0 ... to-travel/
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Re: EEA2 / FM-EFM Discussion thread

Post by galvano » Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:09 pm

j22737 wrote:Hi Everyone,

HO took my payment 4 weeks ago on 7th of Jan, but I haven't received my biometric enrollment yet.
I'm panicking, as this is taking unusually long comparing to people's timeline here.
I called the EU help line yesterday but they told me it can take up to 2 months, and they don't have access to individual cases...

Is there any other way to contact the HO?
I live in a flat, so chances are the letter could have been accidentally thrown away by neighbours. (I hope not!)

Any feedback would be appreciated!
Thank you!
I am in a similar situation. Payment was taken on 21 January and still no word from HO. My EU applied together and he received an email today saying his application had been received

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Re: EEA2 / FM-EFM Discussion thread

Post by alex1128 » Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:49 pm

IvanovMarin wrote:Omg. This forum is so useful.

Can I ask some questions as I'm very nervous after reading some cases.

I'm about to apply for EEA FM.

I'm on tier4 from sept 2014 until October 2016.
I was dating with a guy for two years, we married in January 2016 and I moved to his place after marriage (yes-yes only after marriage). So we are living together for two weeks now.
He is self employed (estate agent, director of his company) for 5 months now, paying him self min salary as not much profit in the beginning.
Previously he was a job-seaker for 5 year and on the benefits.

Anything I should take into account according to previous experience in order not to fail with the application?

Many thanks
The status of job seeker for 5 years and the fact that your partner has claimed benefit will surely make them scrutinize carefully every single bit of the documents you sent for your application and will most-likely result in them calling both of you for an interview ...
So DO NOT send any extra documentation, SEND ONLY the documents required as this will reduce their chances of finding some minor reason to reject your application or use it against you during the interview in Liverpool...
Application sent: 25.06
Biometrics : 10/07 (dated 07/07)
COA: 29/07
Received Questionnaire: 09/11
RC : Refused ( 23/01/2016)
Appeal Filed : 25/01/2016

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Re: EEA2 / FM-EFM Discussion thread

Post by lucia123 » Wed Feb 03, 2016 5:45 pm

hi guys, i just want to share my expirence jan 2015 i apply for my partner RC but i was refuse because my partner passport is expired, we live 2years together and we have a baby my concern is when we surmit new application i was on maternity so i cant give any payslip but i surmit my resuming to work letter and is thesame company have been working with for the past 8years, so when i finish my maternity i surmit 3payslips for additional document. 3payslips, my eu passport, our daugther passport eu, prove of address, and birth certificate. pls i need urgent help if what i surmitted this time is right. Thanks
my new timeline
appplicaton surmit: 15/09/15
money out:17/09/15
coa:23/09/15
biometric:23/09/15
biometric done:23/09/15
resisdent card:waiting

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Re: EEA2 / FM-EFM Discussion thread

Post by s1120403 » Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:08 am

lucia123 wrote:hi guys, i just want to share my expirence jan 2015 i apply for my partner RC but i was refuse because my partner passport is expired, we live 2years together and we have a baby my concern is when we surmit new application i was on maternity so i cant give any payslip but i surmit my resuming to work letter and is thesame company have been working with for the past 8years, so when i finish my maternity i surmit 3payslips for additional document. 3payslips, my eu passport, our daugther passport eu, prove of address, and birth certificate. pls i need urgent help if what i surmitted this time is right. Thanks
my new timeline
appplicaton surmit: 15/09/15
money out:17/09/15
coa:23/09/15
biometric:23/09/15
biometric done:23/09/15
resisdent card:waiting
Hi lucia123,

In my opinion, what you submitted should be fine. Just send to the HO the 3 payslips once they become available (write a cover letter and briefly explain the situation, write on the letter the reference number HO assigned to your application).

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Re: EEA2 / FM-EFM Discussion thread

Post by Ayeesha29 » Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:27 am

Hi there, just an update on my application!!

I just returned home to find the postman at my doorstep. My passports and documents were returned with a letter saying my RC will arrive in 10 working days.
Now the twist is there was no letter in the package as regards my husband's permanent residence application although his passport was also returned.
I am happy but confused.

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Re: EEA2 / FM-EFM Discussion thread

Post by Nightwolf » Thu Feb 04, 2016 12:55 pm

Called the home office number today to confirm what the status of my application.. The person said they will look into my case and contact me about it.. Hey Alex.. how long did they take to give you a reply about your case??

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Re: EEA2 / FM-EFM Discussion thread

Post by alex1128 » Thu Feb 04, 2016 1:26 pm

not much 3 or 4 days :)
Application sent: 25.06
Biometrics : 10/07 (dated 07/07)
COA: 29/07
Received Questionnaire: 09/11
RC : Refused ( 23/01/2016)
Appeal Filed : 25/01/2016

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