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I have looked at the current fee changes - below linkAUHS wrote:It could be 1159 for ALL DEPENDANTS(Regardless of Numbers only 1 fee applicable).fslateef wrote:Also note about fees increase for separate dependent applications as mentioned by Yash001.kg_1218 wrote:I completely agree with JaganKumar.
UKBA mentioned:
'These increases are mostly in line with inflation and will ensure that the UK continues to welcome the brightest and the best. It is only right that those who use and benefit from the immigration system should contribute more than the UK taxpayer.'
Above statement mentioned the fee increase is in-line with inflation but I really don't accept this.
Tier 1 - (General) Standard - main from £1,500 to £1,545, £45 increase which is fine
Tier 1 - (General) Standard - £409 increase which is really not acceptable
Here local people making such a big issue if tube/energy fare increased 10/20 pence.
I am sure the government will behave (increasing the fee) the same for every year to migrants, I really don't know how to oppose this. The only thing we can do is leaving this country as Jagan said above.
kg_1218 you are right about leaving this country as this is what HO/UKBA wants from us means either allow them to milk remaining migrants as much as possible as they already closed highly skilled path and its only for some years till when everyone under Tier-1 General get ILR.
You never know because its still not very clear.Why they write all dependants in some categorise.
Yes. Looks correct as they have shown 750 (applying at the same time) will become 1159 and only reference to applying separately is in the point you mentioned.smandala.in wrote:Also i have just noticed that dependent fee will be same as main applicant if not applying at the same time as main applicant.
Refer the link below
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... s-2013.pdf
As the line says in page 5 - "Dependants’ fees
are for applications made at the same time as the main applicant. For
PBS dependants applying individually the relevant main applicant fee is payable."
So, i believe £ 1545 per dependent if applying separately.... earlier there was an option and it was around £561 ..which is now more than 170% increase..
I might be wrong as-well ..can seniors in the forum comment on this ...
kashifmasud wrote:I understand the frustration as we all are going through this phase. Just wondering, can it not be challenged in Court?
To me this seems unfair, they increased fee last year from 1200 to 1800 Tier1 Main Applicant PEO and now another increase...
They want to suck every penny out of us that we make here...
Unfortunately, we can't.ilr_trauma wrote:we should challenge it in court..this is exploitation
I see your point and totally agree that non-EU immigrants are in absolutely unfovarauble position, but i dont think there is anyway to play around this matter. EU immigrants are protected by EU law and legally entitled to benefits. UK is a member of EU and all messy EU system is a system of counter-benefits at a large scale. With regards to non-EU immigrants, point based immigrants are considered temporarily workers and we are not protected. we may or we may not stay on in the UK so UK gov-t dont have to provide benefits for us, they do provide free basic NHS medical care which is believed to be sufficient.varghesejim wrote:Unfortunately, we can't.ilr_trauma wrote:we should challenge it in court..this is exploitation
Lets put this into a different perspective. T1 visa is for highly skilled migrants. 1500 pounds for an extension of two years is 750 pounds per year. If one cannot pay this in his/her stay, UKBA can challenge how can he/she be doing a highly skilled job earning a good salary?
However, we might be able to address this differently. This is another example of a flawed immigration policy. T1 migrants are net tax payers unlike many other categories because we have no recourse to public funds. For a minimum of 5 years we just pay tax and NI contributing to the economy in a big way. However, other categories like European migrants might not be net tax payers as their tax contributions might be offset by their benefit claims. What is happening here is putting off the net contributors by exorbitant fee raises and letting the problem exploiting migrants not addressed. The policy is a mess.
If we can gain attention of the media about this failure and if they cover this news, UKBA might rethink next time.
We are bearing the burden of immigration backlash from the government even though we are not the cause of the problem. It is ridiculous.
There is no grounds for challenging the fee raise in court. We might be able to highlight the flaws in the way immigration categories are handled.
Any pointers about how to forward this issue to the media?
Mela wrote:I see your point and totally agree that non-EU immigrants are in absolutely unfovarauble position, but i dont think there is anyway to play around this matter. EU immigrants are protected by EU law and legally entitled to benefits. UK is a member of EU and all messy EU system is a system of counter-benefits at a large scale. With regards to non-EU immigrants, point based immigrants are considered temporarily workers and we are not protected. we may or we may not stay on in the UK so UK gov-t dont have to provide benefits for us, they do provide free basic NHS medical care which is believed to be sufficient.varghesejim wrote:Unfortunately, we can't.ilr_trauma wrote:we should challenge it in court..this is exploitation
Lets put this into a different perspective. T1 visa is for highly skilled migrants. 1500 pounds for an extension of two years is 750 pounds per year. If one cannot pay this in his/her stay, UKBA can challenge how can he/she be doing a highly skilled job earning a good salary?
However, we might be able to address this differently. This is another example of a flawed immigration policy. T1 migrants are net tax payers unlike many other categories because we have no recourse to public funds. For a minimum of 5 years we just pay tax and NI contributing to the economy in a big way. However, other categories like European migrants might not be net tax payers as their tax contributions might be offset by their benefit claims. What is happening here is putting off the net contributors by exorbitant fee raises and letting the problem exploiting migrants not addressed. The policy is a mess.
If we can gain attention of the media about this failure and if they cover this news, UKBA might rethink next time.
We are bearing the burden of immigration backlash from the government even though we are not the cause of the problem. It is ridiculous.
There is no grounds for challenging the fee raise in court. We might be able to highlight the flaws in the way immigration categories are handled.
Any pointers about how to forward this issue to the media?
Despite the despair of the fee rise, i try to look objective on the matter. If the immigrants dont have savings of lets say 5K to cover a fee, is there a high chance this immigrant will be eocnomically inactive and in fact draingin the system claiming the benefits once they becaome permamnent here? Yes, the chance are high. So the gov-t makes eveerything possible to scartch out those immigrants form applying for ILR or extendign their stay in the UK.
@zabielazabiela wrote:Mela wrote:I see your point and totally agree that non-EU immigrants are in absolutely unfovarauble position, but i dont think there is anyway to play around this matter. EU immigrants are protected by EU law and legally entitled to benefits. UK is a member of EU and all messy EU system is a system of counter-benefits at a large scale. With regards to non-EU immigrants, point based immigrants are considered temporarily workers and we are not protected. we may or we may not stay on in the UK so UK gov-t dont have to provide benefits for us, they do provide free basic NHS medical care which is believed to be sufficient.varghesejim wrote:Unfortunately, we can't.ilr_trauma wrote:we should challenge it in court..this is exploitation
Lets put this into a different perspective. T1 visa is for highly skilled migrants. 1500 pounds for an extension of two years is 750 pounds per year. If one cannot pay this in his/her stay, UKBA can challenge how can he/she be doing a highly skilled job earning a good salary?
However, we might be able to address this differently. This is another example of a flawed immigration policy. T1 migrants are net tax payers unlike many other categories because we have no recourse to public funds. For a minimum of 5 years we just pay tax and NI contributing to the economy in a big way. However, other categories like European migrants might not be net tax payers as their tax contributions might be offset by their benefit claims. What is happening here is putting off the net contributors by exorbitant fee raises and letting the problem exploiting migrants not addressed. The policy is a mess.
If we can gain attention of the media about this failure and if they cover this news, UKBA might rethink next time.
We are bearing the burden of immigration backlash from the government even though we are not the cause of the problem. It is ridiculous.
There is no grounds for challenging the fee raise in court. We might be able to highlight the flaws in the way immigration categories are handled.
Any pointers about how to forward this issue to the media?
Despite the despair of the fee rise, i try to look objective on the matter. If the immigrants dont have savings of lets say 5K to cover a fee, is there a high chance this immigrant will be eocnomically inactive and in fact draingin the system claiming the benefits once they becaome permamnent here? Yes, the chance are high. So the gov-t makes eveerything possible to scartch out those immigrants form applying for ILR or extendign their stay in the UK.
I dont think thats the case, i think the day you set foot in EU you are protected by certain law and you do have rights, citizen or not..What do you think happended to HSMP applicants..they challenged the UKBA in the court of law and won..per my understanding HSMP applicants still pay the same fee as their last application, this isnt the case for T1 applicants at all and thankfully to them (and the justice system) we are measured against same criteria as our initial application..So, bottomline is we can challenge the policies set by UKBA which are unjust and unreasonable..
-they can argue they increased the fee because of the increasing costs of dealing wiht the applications its not alaways about the infaltionfs05 wrote:I would suggest lets write to our relevant MPs to take this matter up. Few points to consider:
- That we are fine with the increase going up in line with the inflation
- How does the increase justify for dependents when most of them are young children who cannot even work
- What is the difference btw a dependent of a EU national or someone from out of the EU, on human grounds all are equal then how does it justify the increase of 70% ?
ok it diesnt matter i still dont see the point. what exactly you try to comparefs05 wrote:i wrote dependents of EU nationals
I think the way he has presented it, I see no other MP will object. But if we can give some numbers then we may get some support from our MP.For certain application categories, we will continue to set fees higher than the administrative cost to reflect their value to successful applicants. This helps to provide resources to run the UK immigration system and enables the agency to set lower fees elsewhere in support of wider Government objectives to attract those businesses, workers, students and visitors who most benefit the UK.
fs05 wrote:THIS IS WHAT I AM SENDING OUT:
Dear Sir,
I would like to bring to your attention an issue which has been of a concern to a lot of people who are on the Tier 1 migrant visa. Most of us are hardworking skilled workers falling in the higher tax bracket rate and also do not have any recourse to public funds...cont
sorry, i was not trying to argue either, im T1 immihrant myself, i was just trying to be objective and skimmimg through all the posts here i dont see any arguments to put up against UKBA fee hike...despite the fact i personally oppose it too as i dont want to pay high fee obviously.fs05 wrote:I have not posted here to create an argument , but if we all write to our local MPs and tell them this is going to be presented in parliament on mar 14 atleast there is a probability that it might come down a bit if not back to £750 / dep.
I mean lets not be pessimistic and try our level best efforts to deliver a positive outcome. Collectively we can make a difference.
fs05 wrote:And when the processing is only of the main applicant , I mean the dependents do not have any points and neither are they assessed, I have gone into a PEO and they spend upto 2 hours per application for the main applicant fine agreed they are charging £1545 but for dependents they are virtually not doing any checking / assessment apart from the fact that we provide proof of a relationship. So whats the administrative cost of that ? or how so ever they justify !
I would say write to the MPs , what will happen lets say is that when they sit down to debate in the parliament maybe our relevant mP's will remember our emails and they might take up as an argument. Rem. the parliamentarians still think objectively and they can argue with the immi. mnst. how does he justify it, plus not all ministers oppose migration so i would suggest no harm in shooting it out, but do not do it at the last minute as they would never get time to read it. Send it today or tom , so they can have a look at it over the next 2-3 days.
thanks
F
One can earn £100000 per year and spend £95000, this cannot be the Government's reason to justify a visa fee of £4988 for main applicant and 2 dependents. After 1 year this visa fee may increase to £7500 or £10000, where will it stop?varghesejim wrote:Lets put this into a different perspective. T1 visa is for highly skilled migrants. 1500 pounds for an extension of two years is 750 pounds per year. If one cannot pay this in his/her stay, UKBA can challenge how can he/she be doing a highly skilled job earning a good salary?