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Test case Ireland blocking 7,000 C Visas for Surinder Singh

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Re: Test case Ireland blocking 7,000 C Visas for Surinder Si

Post by el patron » Wed Mar 02, 2016 4:57 pm

griffith wrote:I'm not sure but looks like alots of Pakistanis have migrated from Britain to Ireland just for the sake of their family members immigration from pakistan to Ireland, and many of them have applied for this visa including permitted family members herethough in the beginning of february the irish immigration has tightened the permitted family members visa process.I have heard and seen many of the UK and ireland based solicitors who are charging thousands of euros from their clients in order to apply and do the documentation of their family members just for the sake of EU1 application form.
I think as per the new law the person applying for this visa on the basis of their EU citizen family member should be resident in the Republic of Ireland for atleast months . Moderators should know better.
These applications were all made under the 2005 regulations and not the new 2015 ones.

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Re: Test case Ireland blocking 7,000 C Visas for Surinder Si

Post by Shakey » Thu Mar 03, 2016 7:52 pm

http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/INIS%20-% ... 202015.pdf

Operation Vantage gets a mention in INIS's annual review. Appears they are indeed targeting Indian, Pakistani and Bangladeshi's.

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Re: Test case Ireland blocking 7,000 C Visas for Surinder Si

Post by el patron » Thu Mar 03, 2016 9:18 pm

Shakey wrote:http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/INIS%20-% ... 202015.pdf

Operation Vantage gets a mention in INIS's annual review. Appears they are indeed targeting Indian, Pakistani and Bangladeshi's.
thanks for that it is not my imagination!

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Re: Test case Ireland blocking 7,000 C Visas for Surinder Si

Post by Obie » Thu Mar 03, 2016 9:30 pm

It was not much of a surprise, it was always clear from the responses that the department were targeting certain nationalities and this itself is a breach of EU LAW.

What they mean by statistically improbable marriages is clearly beyond my understanding.

Perhaps I am not too smart.

The kind of outward discrimination is far different from how the UKVI behaves.
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Re: Test case Ireland blocking 7,000 C Visas for Surinder Si

Post by That Zimbo Lad » Fri Mar 04, 2016 2:31 pm

It's quite disappointing that INIS and Fitzgerald have resorted to these sort of dirty measures of systematic stalling. Quite clearly they are now operating much similarly to the UK Home Office.
I applied for an EU accompany visa in Sept 15 and had set an initial deadline of January 16. Sure enough we didn't get the visa, the judicial review and lawyer route didn't work because of this Test case scenario and writing to them yielded no results.

Ended up pulling out our documents and applied for a Schengen at the end of Feb. Got our docs a week later and applied for the Schengen visa at our local French Embassy in Harare Zimbabwe. Visa was issued within 3 working days although that was probably because I applied as a tourist. Now we are in France and we have kickstarted our Surrinder Singh to the UK :D .

That would be my advice for anyone thinking of applying to Ireland for Surrinder Singh. APPLY AS A TOURIST. Don't mention anything about treaty rights and once you get to Ireland well the process is quite straightforward. Sure you will have to show more financial requirements and prob have to book Itenaries and hotels, but I think if you are serious about SS that should not be an issue. Otherwise Plan B is Schengen to mainland EU.

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Re: Test case Ireland blocking 7,000 C Visas for Surinder Si

Post by Obie » Thu Mar 10, 2016 10:46 pm

Wanted to update the forum but had a busy few days. I guess some of you may have already heard that the hearing in the test case has been concluded and judge undertook to release judgement as soon as possible. .

So hopefully this charade will come to an end soon.
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Re: Test case Ireland blocking 7,000 C Visas for Surinder Si

Post by HRH » Sun Mar 13, 2016 12:02 pm

Does anyone have update on D visa.
We applied for D visa for my mum on 07 Jan'16 in India to accompany me in Ireland .
No response from the visa office . Previously they used to send out generic response " Your application is under process & you will be informed once the decision is made" but this time its almost 10 days & they haven't responded to my email. All I asked was their opinion if I made a mistake by applying for D visa & should I have applied for C visa instead. I even offered them to provide extra documents in case they need to expedite the application but no response.

http://www.immigrationboards.com/eea-ro ... l#p1316687

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Re: Test case Ireland blocking 7,000 C Visas for Surinder Si

Post by HRH » Mon Mar 14, 2016 3:47 pm

Today, somehow I managed to get hold of someone on the phone in Visa office Delhi.
I was told that they don't have any information on EU treaty visas & its taking longer than usual & I should hear shortly. When I expressed my frustration stating that I have been waiting for over 2 months now & asked her how short/ long is shortly; she advised about a month.
Not sure if she said so, just to get rid of my call or did she really mean it?

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Re: Test case Ireland blocking 7,000 C Visas for Surinder Si

Post by Casa » Mon Mar 14, 2016 3:49 pm

No one can tell you what her intentions were...genuine information or a fob-off. :|
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Re: Test case Ireland blocking 7,000 C Visas for Surinder Si

Post by Fessy » Mon Mar 14, 2016 11:30 pm

Hello Obie,
You mentioned in your post that you recently sorted 2 Nigerian application with no delays. I want to find out if applications made in Ireland embassy in Abuja (Nigeria) is usually treated in Nigeria or forwarded to Ireland.
My wife applied for C accompany Visa last recently in Nigeria but am currently in the UK awaiting decision before i move, as i don't want to leave my job here in until we get the decision on the application.

Thanks

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Re: Test case Ireland blocking 7,000 C Visas for Surinder Si

Post by UKBALoveStory » Fri Mar 18, 2016 9:18 am

Obie wrote:Wanted to update the forum but had a busy few days. I guess some of you may have already heard that the hearing in the test case has been concluded and judge undertook to release judgement as soon as possible. .

So hopefully this charade will come to an end soon.
Hi Obie,

Just wondering, if there is any update on this? or if you can point us to the right direction where we can keep an eye on the outcome (any link or website?)

Thanks
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Re: Test case Ireland blocking 7,000 C Visas for Surinder Si

Post by Obie » Fri Mar 18, 2016 9:29 am

I have no further update. All I can say as I person present at the hearing is that the states legal position was very week. They sought to discredit the applicants without providing any sound and legal justification .

It was a total mess . Processing 3 application in a week. It will be difficult to argue that such system is consistent with EU law.

There is no doubt in my mind as to what the outcome of the case should be. A reference to the CJEU is not even necessary, even though it appears that the state may want this, as it will assist them in supressing more application.
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Re: Test case Ireland blocking 7,000 C Visas for Surinder Si

Post by HRH » Mon Apr 04, 2016 4:39 am

Morning Folks.
This seems like a never ending charade. Reading from other posts, it is evident that other EU countries also seem to be delaying the process.

Recently I wrote to eutreatyrights@justice.ie & I got a one liner response directing me to contact visa divison.

Please share update on blocked application case.

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Re: Test case Ireland blocking 7,000 C Visas for Surinder Si

Post by agusienka » Mon Apr 04, 2016 9:17 pm

You can see it will not end quickly .. my solicitor was a couple of times in the high court without any results irlish imigration ignores all the letters of the decision which was sent by the court. Anyone know approximately how long it will be locked???

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Re: Test case Ireland blocking 7,000 C Visas for Surinder Si

Post by HRH » Thu Apr 07, 2016 12:45 pm

This is not the first time that Visa office India has delayed posting the decision report.

Considering today is Thursday & they should be in the process of posting Thursday report (05-04-2016 to 07-04-2016), they haven't even bothered to post the Tuesday report (01-04-2016 to 05-04-2016) yet.

I wish I could attach screen shot but I can't compress it below 100kb while the limit set by the forum is 50kb.

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Re: Test case Ireland blocking 7,000 C Visas for Surinder Si

Post by Abs566 » Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:19 pm

Shakey wrote:My wife received a Directive 2004/38/EC tourist C visa within 10 days last month for Ireland so it really looks as though processing is down to location and/or nationality. I have no idea if it had any bearing on the issuance but I provided evidence of my salary which is many times over the required UK limit.
Do you mind telling us where you applied from and what is your wife nationality?

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Re: Test case Ireland blocking 7,000 C Visas for Surinder Si

Post by paras1234 » Sat May 07, 2016 6:57 pm

Hi

Can someone help me here

let's if the spouse (me) and my wife are living together in Ireland and she will be using her treaty right in Ireland (as she is British)

after she has worked for lets say 5-8 months got everything we needed and then if we apply on EU1 application form, will this take long time or do they have reply to us within 6 months?

please help

thank you
Amit

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Re: Test case Ireland blocking 7,000 C Visas for Surinder Si

Post by sport1214 » Thu May 12, 2016 12:11 pm

irish visa office didnt upload any visa decision this tuesday too

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Re: Test case Ireland blocking 7,000 C Visas for Surinder Si

Post by UKBALoveStory » Tue Jul 05, 2016 3:33 pm

guys, any update on this case, post brexit?
I am not an immigration adviser...All IMHO.

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Re: Test case Ireland blocking 7,000 C Visas for Surinder Si

Post by el patron » Tue Jul 05, 2016 3:53 pm

UKBALoveStory wrote:guys, any update on this case, post brexit?
Quite possibly be the new court term in September before a decision promulgates

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Re: Test case Ireland blocking 7,000 C Visas for Surinder Si

Post by roxyali3005 » Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:37 pm

Has Nyone heard about ther applications yet? Its been over a year since application surely something must be happenin? Someone somewher must know something

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