Help in employee hours covered

[hellostar]

Hi Zimba
thanks for your reply
yes i got my visa before this date back in 2013 but i got confused does part time job has to be cotinue for 6 months if it is less than six they wont consider that job as job creation is is right as i said that job continue for 4 months and the he left means 2 hours every week
thanks in advance


Pre 6 April 2014 transitional arrangement
165. If you successfully applied to enter the route before 6 April 2014, you may continue to
employ:
 one worker for 24 months
 one worker for 6 months and one for 18 months
 4 workers for 6 months each

[hellostar]

Hi guys
following are the Documents to be submitted please have a look and let me know if anything is missing so i can add before i apply or if you think not needed let me know so i can remove
and could you please let me know which ones i have to sign , shall i sign all the duplicate copies?
advice appreciated
thanks




1) Application form
a. Main applicant application form with two photographs & passports
b. Dependents application forms with photographs & passports


2) Annual accounts
a. Report & accounts for second financial year 2014/15.
b. Form CT600
c. HMRC online filing log printout.
Not submitting previous two years account dont really needed do i?

3) Management accounts
a. Report & management accounts for current financial year 2015/16 for last six months


4) Corporation Tax documents
a. CT620 ACK for first year
b. CT620 ACK for second year
c. CT620 ACK for third year


5) Director’s Loan agreement
a. Unsecured Director’s Loan agreement
b. Letter of Investment from certified accountant
Direrctor loan agreement made on the company's letter headed paper is it ok?

6) Business Bank Statement
a. Account name:
b. Account number
c. Sort Code:


7) Current appointment report & filing History
a. Current appointment report for my company
b. Recent Filing history page
c. Certificate of incorporation of the company
I asked company house to send me the this certificate for £3 but he said you can get certified certificate for £20 i dont know was it ok to pay or not but i paid

Full Payment Submission & Letter from accountant
a. RTI – Full Payment submission (FPS)
b. Letter from certified accountant confirming net creation of jobs
c. Copy of bank stament showing the transfer of money and highlighted

9) Employee documents
a. Employee 1: Name of Employee
b. Form P60
c. Form P45
d. P11 deductions working sheets [Signed & Stamped]
e. Employee Proof of Identification Passport copies
f.Pay slips

10) Supporting documents
a. Business Insurance Valid latest from October 2015
b. Online Advertisement
C.


11) Print out of Online Points Based calculator

12) Covering Letter

13) Maintenance Funds



thanks

[cappachino]

Why accounts for last year only?

[hellostar]

Its loss in previous two years and it doesnt say anywhere in policy guidance to send three years account i am sending Ct620 for those years as instead
i was big loss because in the beginning business was not doing well
does it make sense ?
or do you think should i add
any other documents?

[hellostar]

Hi guys
Can any body let me know is it ok to submit all these documents and
and is it ok to make the director's loan on the company's letter headed paper and the lender as my name and signature and
Borrower sign as on company behalf company secretary my wife as she is company secretary #
thanks in advance

[cappachino]

Most businesses are in a loss.
My opinion is submit all three year accounts.
As they want to see that you registered and started your business within 6 months of arriving into the country.
Based on this my opinion is they would want to see all 3 year accounts.
As for your second question the director lost agreement can be on any paper.
Main point is that you need to mention that it is unsecured and unsubordinted loan.
Also the term of loan etc.
Secretary signiture etc are not required.
You as company director and you as lender needs to sign it.

[hellostar]

Hi Cappachino
thanks for your prompt response
I am sending the company registration certificate and all three years CT620ACK which shows that accounts have been submitting for last three years
the reason i dont want to add all three years account because i invested all the £50,000 in last years not before that and its showing in my management account anyway what do you think wouldnt that be ok?

and as far as sign is concerned , yes i am the director of the company but isnt it weired to sign as lender and singn as borrower on company behalf thats why ?

[hellostar]

Hi guys can anybody help
i am bit got confused

i got my visa before this date back in 2013 but i got confused does part time job has to be continue for 6 months if it is less than six they wont consider that job as job creation is it right as i said that job continue for 4 months and then he left, means 2 hours every week
can i add these two hours per week with another employee worked 28 hours would that be fine this employee didnt work for 6 months though?
thanks in advance


Pre 6 April 2014 transitional arrangement
165. If you successfully applied to enter the route before 6 April 2014, you may continue to
employ:
 one worker for 24 months
 one worker for 6 months and one for 18 months
 4 workers for 6 months each

[cappachino]

Yes it is weird but that what they want.
Again my advise is to send all 3 years.

[sambhave1981]

Hi,


Are you not submitting bank statements showing each instalment of investment (Showing fund moved from your personal to business account) with Directors Loan Aggrement?


Thank you for the question. Gonna help lot of people.

[businessmanuk]

Hi Zimba
thanks for your reply
yes i got my visa before this date back in 2013 but i got confused does part time job has to be cotinue for 6 months if it is less than six they wont consider that job as job creation is is right as i said that job continue for 4 months and the he left means 2 hours every week
thanks in advance


Pre 6 April 2014 transitional arrangement
165. If you successfully applied to enter the route before 6 April 2014, you may continue to
employ:
 one worker for 24 months
 one worker for 6 months and one for 18 months
 4 workers for 6 months each

Hello Zimba

Does this Pre 6 April 2014 transitional arrangement rule, does this has to be in such below format or can it be a combination of short small breakup roles to combine 12 month each for two jobs? As I was told that in can be in small breakup roles a combination by the solicitor.

 one worker for 24 months
 one worker for 6 months and one for 18 months
 4 workers for 6 months each[/quote]

[hellostar]

Hi cappachino
Thanks for your reply I will check with my solicitors let's see what he says.



Hi Sambhav
Yes I will submit bank statement for whole year from February 2015 to February 2016 personal as well as business statement

[hellostar]

Hi guys
Its a quick question , i am still confused
does one job has to be minimum for 6 months if its less then that will not this be counted as job creation,
my one employee worked 4 months as part time
please let me know as i need to finalize my covering letter and ready to send application next week sometime
looking forward to hear from you
regards,
thanks in advance ,

[Casa]

Please don't post this question multiple times throughout the forum. Members will respond if and when they have the answer.

[moongesture]

1) if you come under April 14 transnational agreement then a total of 1560 hrs In total for each post (duration is not relevant)

2) if you have applied on or after 04/14 then each job must cover 12 months atleast (may be coupled with other employee but must be for 12 months period)

[businessmanuk]

1) if you come under April 14 transnational agreement then a total of 1560 hrs In total for each post (duration is not relevant)

2) if you have applied on or after 04/14 then each job must cover 12 months atleast (may be coupled with other employee but must be for 12 months period)

Could you please give the reference where this is explained in HO guidance as I need to look in to this as well and I am a bit confused as well?

So essentially you are saying in any case it has to be 12 months each (combined roles or single worker) provided 30 hours per week.

[moongesture]

No, as defined above Pre 04/14 and Post 04/14 scenarios has fundamental difference which is time period of employment. I mentioned that transitional agreement provide liberty to create job for for 1560 regardless the number of months or years so it could be 4 employees for 6 months or 2 employees for 12 or combination of part time employees etc.

Atleast 12 months period for each job is for applicant applied for initial leave on or after 06/04/2014.

Para 165, Page 50; Tier 1 (entrepreneur) Policy Guidence 19/11.

[businessmanuk]

[quote="abdhriz"]No, as defined above Pre 04/14 and Post 04/14 scenarios has fundamental difference which is time period of employment. I mentioned that transitional agreement provide liberty to create job for for 1560( 2 jobs each) regardless the number of months or years so it could be 4 employees for 6 months or 2 employees for 12 or combination of part time employees etc.

Atleast 12 months period for each job is for applicant applied for initial leave on or after 06/04/2014.

Para 165, Page 50; Tier 1 (entrepreneur) Policy Guidence 19/11.[/quote

So meaning if you are under PRE 6 APRIL 2014 TRANSITIONAL ARRANGEMENT than you can have as many workers combined provided they total make of 2 x 1560 hours per year each for two roles?

[moongesture]

Again, no requirement for one year or three. Any number of employees can make 3120 hrs before initial leave expire.

[businessmanuk]

Again, no requirement for one year or three. Any number of employees can make 3120 hrs before initial leave expire.

For applicants who are on under PRE 6 APRIL 2014 TRANSITIONAL ARRANGEMENT?

[moongesture]

"Pre 6 April 2014 transitional arrangement
165. If you successfully applied to enter the route before 6 April 2014, you may continue to
employ:
one worker for 24 months
one worker for 6 months and one for 18 months
4 workers for 6 months each"

[businessmanuk]

"Pre 6 April 2014 transitional arrangement
165. If you successfully applied to enter the route before 6 April 2014, you may continue to
employ:
one worker for 24 months
one worker for 6 months and one for 18 months
4 workers for 6 months each"

Yes we all see that but we all are trying to understand as asked above. You have mentioned if you are in Pre 6 April 2014 transitional arrangement, you can employ any number of employees making the total of 3129 hours. This is what I am trying to clarify if that what you mean is applicable to Pre 6 April 2014 transitional arrangement applicants? Thanks

[hellostar]

I was confused about this i just spoke with my solicitors and he just finalized my covering letter and i asked him the same question he said this is fine no need requirement for duration of employment if you get visa in transitional period

i have as following

Employee 1 worked = Month 1 , 120 hours Employee 2 worked= Month 1 , 24 hours

He said this is fine to combine and claim the hours 30 hours per week

Month 1, Month 2 and Month 3 as follows (total 3 months)

Employee 1= 125 hours / month
Employee 2 = 10 hours/ month
total 135 per month he said i can claim this employment as one job

Employee 2 left after 4 months , he said i can claim these for months it dosent have to be 6 months no time limit?
hope this will help
i was in tense as well he said dont be tense and relax this is fine

[hellostar]

Hi guys
Is it ok to Submit current Appointment report Dated 03/02/2016 , means if it is more than one month i will submit my case next week sometime ?
looking forward to hear from you
thanks

[moongesture]

"Pre 6 April 2014 transitional arrangement
165. If you successfully applied to enter the route before 6 April 2014, you may continue to
employ:
one worker for 24 months
one worker for 6 months and one for 18 months
4 workers for 6 months each"

Yes we all see that but we all are trying to understand as asked above. You have mentioned if you are in Pre 6 April 2014 transitional arrangement, you can employ any number of employees making the total of 3129 hours. This is what I am trying to clarify if that what you mean is applicable to Pre 6 April 2014 transitional arrangement applicants? Thanks

I am not sure why you are confused. This is exactly I explain in this thread, One Full Time Job = 1560 & Two full time jobs = 3120. Now take a look at example from Guidance that (full time job means 30hrs/week) so;
One worker for 24 months (means 30x104) = 3120
One worker for 6 months + one for 18 (30x26) + (30x78)= 3120;
4 Workers for 6 months (30x26x4) = 3120

So any Number of employee for any number of months are acceptable unless you can prove total employment created for 3120 hrs or above. While above arrangement is Only acceptable for those who had applied successfully before 06/04/2014.