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Re: Application for naturalization but money not debited?

Post by nomibhai » Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:03 am

Derivaz wrote:
Ayyubi72 wrote:
nomibhai wrote:
Ayyubi72 wrote:That is what I said intitally. Just take a chill pill and relax. You know they do not have a reason to refuse, so be assured that your approval will come through in due course.
Hello

I applied o 14th October 2013 via post special delivery RoyalMAil. I can see via receipt confirmation that application was received by HO but no money debited from my account as of today 1st Nov. Any ideas why? just a backlog delay or something that i need to do? Please advise.
Well, just browse the forum and you will know.
but don't they debit almost right away? the cases i know were debited sooner than this OP; if i were him, I'd contact the bank to check if the HO has tried to debit the account and there was an issue; if not, I'd email the HO and ask to check if there is any issue; although, not sure they actually check, but it doesn't harm to email
I called the bank and they said no attempt has been made and nothing was declined. Looking at the HO website, they do state during busy times, it can take upto 4 weeks to get acknowledgement so i guess wait for another 2 weeks or so..Maybe more ppl applied prior to 28th Oct to avoid any issues in relation to new rules.

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Re: Application for naturalization but money not debited?

Post by Derivaz » Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:06 am

nomibhai wrote:
Derivaz wrote:
Ayyubi72 wrote:
nomibhai wrote:
Hello

I applied o 14th October 2013 via post special delivery RoyalMAil. I can see via receipt confirmation that application was received by HO but no money debited from my account as of today 1st Nov. Any ideas why? just a backlog delay or something that i need to do? Please advise.
Well, just browse the forum and you will know.
but don't they debit almost right away? the cases i know were debited sooner than this OP; if i were him, I'd contact the bank to check if the HO has tried to debit the account and there was an issue; if not, I'd email the HO and ask to check if there is any issue; although, not sure they actually check, but it doesn't harm to email
I called the bank and they said no attempt has been made and nothing was declined. Looking at the HO website, they do state during busy times, it can take upto 4 weeks to get acknowledgement so i guess wait for another 2 weeks or so..Maybe more ppl applied prior to 28th Oct to avoid any issues in relation to new rules.
Alright, strange the; the NCS told me back in July, to wait 2 weeks before starting worrying about not being debited, but it could be busier now, due to the new rules; I guess waiting 2 extra weeks won't make a big difference. They did receive it right?

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Post by Amber » Tue Nov 05, 2013 5:27 pm

sjkumar wrote:I submitted my application on 14th Oct at birmingham NCS office still havent heard anything from UKBA and neither my amount is deducted.

Do any one have had the same sort of issues.Neither I have been contacted by anyone from the UKBA.
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Post by Amber » Tue Nov 05, 2013 5:28 pm

It's likely due to the new B1 requirement being introduced and an expected 'rush'. If they've received the application (I assume you've tracked this) then just be patient, if there is a problem with payment details, they will contact you.
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Post by Derivaz » Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:03 pm

D4109125 wrote:It's likely due to the new B1 requirement being introduced and an expected 'rush'. If they've received the application (I assume you've tracked this) then just be patient, if there is a problem with payment details, they will contact you.
They probably got loads of applications before the 28th of Oct, so I think it's going to be slower for a while

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Post by Amber » Wed Nov 06, 2013 3:00 pm

Queries77 wrote:Dear All,

I am please to confirm that I have received the approval letter today and below is the timeline, my query is that Letter said contact Waltham Forest, I phoned them and they advised that Waltham Forest will send a separate letter of invitation for Ceremony, can anyone please advise and share their experience.


Eligibility: HSMP+Teir1 + ILR (one year)
Nationality: Asian
Method of application: NCS Lambeth
Date of application: 27 August 2013
Date of receipt by UKBA: 28 August 2013
Date of acknowledgement : 9th September
Date of debit of fees: 10 th September 2013
Date of approval: 6th November (dated 28th Oct 2013)
Date of Ceremony:
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Post by luk1c » Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:03 pm

Hi, I have the same story. I received approval letter from HO and next day received invitation letter for ceremony from register office. I think some register offices booking self the ceremony. My letter also say if you able to attend ceremony you do not need contact register office. So you need wait few days.

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Post by Derivaz » Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:52 pm

luk1c wrote:Hi, I have the same story. I received approval letter from HO and next day received invitation letter for ceremony from register office. I think some register offices booking self the ceremony. My letter also say if you able to attend ceremony you do not need contact register office. So you need wait few days.
Better, so you dont have to call them to book it

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Post by luk1c » Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:01 pm

Derivaz wrote:
luk1c wrote:Hi, I have the same story. I received approval letter from HO and next day received invitation letter for ceremony from register office. I think some register offices booking self the ceremony. My letter also say if you able to attend ceremony you do not need contact register office. So you need wait few days.
Better, so you dont have to call them to book it
I have aswell atachment slip and prepay envelop to confirm my date and time ceremony and provide phone ana email adress. They say if I able to attend I dont need contact. So I just send back confirmation slip!

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Post by luk1c » Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:21 pm

I found this on my register office website.

"If you have applied for British Citizenship and have had your application approved you will receive a letter of approval from the Home Office.
You will receive an invitation letter to your home address with a date and time to attend a group citizenship ceremony within 5 days of receiving approval from the Home Office. There is no need to contact the Registration Service. You will be allocated to a group ceremony at the earliest available date. However, you may wish to consider a private citizenship ceremony, the telephone number to call to arrange a private ceremony will be detailed within your letter. Once you have received approval from the Home Office please allow 5 days for the invitation letter to arrive from County Council.

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Post by Derivaz » Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:24 am

luk1c wrote:I found this on my register office website.

"If you have applied for British Citizenship and have had your application approved you will receive a letter of approval from the Home Office.
You will receive an invitation letter to your home address with a date and time to attend a group citizenship ceremony within 5 days of receiving approval from the Home Office. There is no need to contact the Registration Service. You will be allocated to a group ceremony at the earliest available date. However, you may wish to consider a private citizenship ceremony, the telephone number to call to arrange a private ceremony will be detailed within your letter. Once you have received approval from the Home Office please allow 5 days for the invitation letter to arrive from County Council.
sounds fine; that council does things different from mine

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English language requirement

Post by sahana6 » Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:31 pm

Hi,
I have my NCS appointment for Naturalisation on 20th Nov 2013, I read the statement of intent, and arranged all necessary documents for naturlisation application to meet english language requirement
1- UKBA statement of comparaibility stating my Bachelor degree is equivalent to UK standards Bachelor Degree
2 - Got a letter from college on official letterhead that medium is English
3 - My original BE cerificate stating Medium as English.

Now i checked the application form and it states that UK NARIC should also confirm that medium is English. This means a English Language Assessment statement again, an additional expense.

But my problem is time, I dont have time to get the NARIC ELA statement now, can someone pls tell me if I can go to NCS with the documents I have? Will they accept my application? I have already paid UK NARIC for the ELA statement but I may not receive it in time. I cannot move my NCS date, due to the requirement of physical presence in UK.

Tried calling NCS but they said they dont advise on documentation.
The KOLL statement of intent still on UKBA says - Those with an academic qualification (not a professional or vocational qualification) who
provide appropriate evidence that the qualification was taught or researched in English are considered automatically to meet the English language component of the KoLL requirement

Appreciate your pointers.

Thanks.

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Re: English language requirement

Post by Derivaz » Wed Nov 13, 2013 3:20 pm

sahana6 wrote:Hi,
I have my NCS appointment for Naturalisation on 20th Nov 2013, I read the statement of intent, and arranged all necessary documents for naturlisation application to meet english language requirement
1- UKBA statement of comparaibility stating my Bachelor degree is equivalent to UK standards Bachelor Degree
2 - Got a letter from college on official letterhead that medium is English
3 - My original BE cerificate stating Medium as English.

Now i checked the application form and it states that UK NARIC should also confirm that medium is English. This means a English Language Assessment statement again, an additional expense.

But my problem is time, I dont have time to get the NARIC ELA statement now, can someone pls tell me if I can go to NCS with the documents I have? Will they accept my application? I have already paid UK NARIC for the ELA statement but I may not receive it in time. I cannot move my NCS date, due to the requirement of physical presence in UK.

Tried calling NCS but they said they dont advise on documentation.
The KOLL statement of intent still on UKBA says - Those with an academic qualification (not a professional or vocational qualification) who
provide appropriate evidence that the qualification was taught or researched in English are considered automatically to meet the English language component of the KoLL requirement

Appreciate your pointers.

Thanks.
I'd call them and ask

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Re: English language requirement

Post by dadageer » Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:50 pm

sahana6 wrote:Hi,
I have my NCS appointment for Naturalisation on 20th Nov 2013, I read the statement of intent, and arranged all necessary documents for naturlisation application to meet english language requirement
1- UKBA statement of comparaibility stating my Bachelor degree is equivalent to UK standards Bachelor Degree
2 - Got a letter from college on official letterhead that medium is English
3 - My original BE cerificate stating Medium as English.

Now i checked the application form and it states that UK NARIC should also confirm that medium is English. This means a English Language Assessment statement again, an additional expense.

But my problem is time, I dont have time to get the NARIC ELA statement now, can someone pls tell me if I can go to NCS with the documents I have? Will they accept my application? I have already paid UK NARIC for the ELA statement but I may not receive it in time. I cannot move my NCS date, due to the requirement of physical presence in UK.

Tried calling NCS but they said they dont advise on documentation.
The KOLL statement of intent still on UKBA says - Those with an academic qualification (not a professional or vocational qualification) who
provide appropriate evidence that the qualification was taught or researched in English are considered automatically to meet the English language component of the KoLL requirement

Appreciate your pointers.

Thanks.
Hi, I was in similar situation few months back where my foreign BE degree was certified by NARIC as equivalent to British bachelors degree. Medium of instructions of my degree was English and I had an official letterhead from University confirming medium of instructions is English. But, sadly, this is not enough to meet UKBA new requirement of B1 level English. You must get a NARIC certificate for "English Language assessment" which unfortunately only grades to C1. Not above, not below. I sent all my documents to them and they rejected saying this degree is not at level C1 which was quite ridiculous but I had no choice then to go for an ESOL exam. I then appeared for FCE exam and passed it at level C1.

As per your situation, it's highly likely that home office will not accept your NARIC UK degree comparability and letters of English medium from your Uni. until you get a NARIC certificate which certifies your degree at level C1.
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Acknowledgement Letter Not Stating All Enclosed Documents

Post by MwanaKay » Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:41 pm

Guys please help, bit concerned, received acknowledgement Letter today, there is no mention of my Life In The UK certificate, but the other documents are mentioned/listed.

Should I worry that they haven't got it??????!?
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Re: English language requirement

Post by sahana6 » Thu Nov 28, 2013 11:30 am

Hi,

Received confirmation from Home Office that a printout of points based calculator showing 10 points for your degree is enough evidence to prove the English Language skills for naturalisation application. No need of ELA or any letter from UK NARIC.

Orginial Degree Certificate with print out of points based calculator showing 10 poins should suffice the English language requirement.

Home Office Response:

As detailed in the previously enclosed factsheet, you can submit a printout of the point based calculator showing that you were awarded 10 points for your English language skills. You should also enclose your original degree certificate with the application.

Thanks.

dadageer wrote:
sahana6 wrote:Hi,
I have my NCS appointment for Naturalisation on 20th Nov 2013, I read the statement of intent, and arranged all necessary documents for naturlisation application to meet english language requirement
1- UKBA statement of comparaibility stating my Bachelor degree is equivalent to UK standards Bachelor Degree
2 - Got a letter from college on official letterhead that medium is English
3 - My original BE cerificate stating Medium as English.

Now i checked the application form and it states that UK NARIC should also confirm that medium is English. This means a English Language Assessment statement again, an additional expense.

But my problem is time, I dont have time to get the NARIC ELA statement now, can someone pls tell me if I can go to NCS with the documents I have? Will they accept my application? I have already paid UK NARIC for the ELA statement but I may not receive it in time. I cannot move my NCS date, due to the requirement of physical presence in UK.

Tried calling NCS but they said they dont advise on documentation.
The KOLL statement of intent still on UKBA says - Those with an academic qualification (not a professional or vocational qualification) who
provide appropriate evidence that the qualification was taught or researched in English are considered automatically to meet the English language component of the KoLL requirement

Appreciate your pointers.

Thanks.
Hi, I was in similar situation few months back where my foreign BE degree was certified by NARIC as equivalent to British bachelors degree. Medium of instructions of my degree was English and I had an official letterhead from University confirming medium of instructions is English. But, sadly, this is not enough to meet UKBA new requirement of B1 level English. You must get a NARIC certificate for "English Language assessment" which unfortunately only grades to C1. Not above, not below. I sent all my documents to them and they rejected saying this degree is not at level C1 which was quite ridiculous but I had no choice then to go for an ESOL exam. I then appeared for FCE exam and passed it at level C1.

As per your situation, it's highly likely that home office will not accept your NARIC UK degree comparability and letters of English medium from your Uni. until you get a NARIC certificate which certifies your degree at level C1.

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Post by Alex_11 » Thu Nov 28, 2013 12:31 pm

Hi guys
Good character section
3.5 about the tax reference number or the address tax office
I didn't fill it cause I didn't know where should I get it from so
I left as it is. I thought it was for self employed applications.
Do u think that's will effect my application?
I will be thankful if you can help.

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Post by Amber » Thu Nov 28, 2013 1:37 pm

maasif wrote:Applied on 22/10 via NCS.
Received by HO on 24/10.
Emailed NHD on 27/11 and got a reply on 28/11.....
We have been advised that any outstanding applications and payments to be processed will be completed in the next two weeks.

Unfortunately there has been a large increase in applications which has caused a bit of a delay.
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Post by Amber » Thu Nov 28, 2013 1:39 pm

viper123 wrote:is there any one who got their approval letter during october 2013 and still waiting for their citizen ceremony invitation letter? because mine since 22/oct/2013 still havent recieve anything.
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Post by Amber » Thu Nov 28, 2013 8:17 pm

knitter wrote:Hi,

for the naturalisation I'm using the National Checking Service.
Did you use it?
What was your experience with them? l


Thanks! :)
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Re: Acknowledgement Letter Not Stating All Enclosed Document

Post by MwanaKay » Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:29 am

MwanaKay wrote:Guys please help, bit concerned, received acknowledgement Letter today, there is no mention of my Life In The UK certificate, but the other documents are mentioned/listed.

Should I worry that they haven't got it??????!?

Anyone with as similar situation??? Please help
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Post by Ayyubi72 » Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:59 am

It does not matter. They never look into the docs properly at this stage and docs are never mentioned fully. Its the assistants who open the envelopes and send acknowledgements. When your application is being looked at by case worker, at this stage your whole application gets looked at in details. Many times they just mention all supporting docs as "supporting docs -1".
No point worrying about these things. Case workers are paid to worry about these matters. Let them do what they are paid to do. You have made the application and paid the fees. Just sit back and relax until you receive your brown envelope.

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Re: Acknowledgement Letter Not Stating All Enclosed Document

Post by Loveislovely » Fri Nov 29, 2013 9:03 am

MwanaKay wrote:
MwanaKay wrote:Guys please help, bit concerned, received acknowledgement Letter today, there is no mention of my Life In The UK certificate, but the other documents are mentioned/listed.

Should I worry that they haven't got it??????!?

Anyone with as similar situation??? Please help
Hi Mwanakay,

I have had the same problem, I was worried at first, but I read a couple of posts, they had claim that HO does not return your life in the UK certificate, after naturalization, I am not sure if this is a fact, I hope someone else can confirm it. If it is true, that would explain, why they did not mention it in the letter.

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Post by Ayyubi72 » Fri Nov 29, 2013 10:02 am

They don't return liuk. After naturalization this doc is not worth the paper it's written on.

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Re: Acknowledgement Letter Not Stating All Enclosed Document

Post by MwanaKay » Fri Nov 29, 2013 12:00 pm

Loveislovely wrote:
MwanaKay wrote:
MwanaKay wrote:Guys please help, bit concerned, received acknowledgement Letter today, there is no mention of my Life In The UK certificate, but the other documents are mentioned/listed.

Should I worry that they haven't got it??????!?

Anyone with as similar situation??? Please help
Hi Mwanakay,

I have had the same problem, I was worried at first, but I read a couple of posts, they had claim that HO does not return your life in the UK certificate, after naturalization, I am not sure if this is a fact, I hope someone else can confirm it. If it is true, that would explain, why they did not mention it in the letter.

Loveislovely

Loveislovely

Many many thanks Loveislovely

I just thought maybe they mean they have not got it. Thanks for the clarification and advice you've offered.
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