ILR Dependents (Less than 2 years in UK)

sam2012 · Post by **sam2012** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:44 pm

Did Glasgow PEO call you before cancelling the appointments ?
If not then, you can argue with them that it was your mistake, but you wanted to keep the one with your dependents, I think they will definitely add your dependents if they have cancelled the appointments without your consent.

FYI,
I got a call recently from Croydon PEO, and they asked me if I have problem with my bookings, CW told she sees multiple bookings on the same name. I told them it was due to a mistake, then she asked me which one I wanted to keep and cancelled the remaining.

indran · Post by **indran** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:43 pm

Sam2012,

They didnt't call or email me, they just cancelled all the appointments. I called them to urgue but they said, they have the right to cancel the appointments. Very disappointing. I will try to call them again to see if they can include my dependent with my appointment. Thank you for your suggestion.

Regards,
Indran

sam2012 · Post by **sam2012** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:41 pm

PEO Dates with Dependents Less than 2 years in UK (with more than 2 years overall since 1st entry)

fazzer1 - Yet to confirm - (please update, your experience will be key for all others in the loop.)
Indran - 28th Jan - Glasgow PEO
Sam2012 - 4th Feb - Croydon PEO
maddyindon - Due in September 2013

indran · Post by **indran** » Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:17 am

Sam2012,

I managed to get appointment in Croydon for 23 Jan coming Wednesday by luck. Hopefully everything will go well with our ILR application. I am also prepared with PBS dependent extension, just in case.

Do you know what are the proof of documents required for PBS dependent extension apart from the fund requirement (bank statements for past 3 months), marriage cert, birth cert for baby and passports? I hope you or someone could guide me. I havent really looked into PBS requirements since I was focusing mainly on ILR.

Thank you.

Regards,
Indran

sam2012 · Post by **sam2012** » Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:00 pm

Thats Great Indran!.

For PBS Dependent:
Maintainance Funds
Marriage Certificate
Birth Certificate
Passport
Main applicant passport and visa copies
Some Address proof.. should be OK.

PEO Dates with Dependents Less than 2 years in UK (with more than 2 years overall since 1st entry)

fazzer1 - Yet to confirm - (please update, your experience will be key for all others in the loop.)
Indran - 23rd Jan - Croydon PEO
Sam2012 - 4th Feb - Croydon PEO
maddyindon - Due in September 2013
call2bala - Due in March 2013

veera4u · Post by **veera4u** » Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:20 pm

hi sam

my case is similar to yours except dependent spent outside uk is more than your case

--myself will be completing 5 years (2 year hsmp + 3 years of tier 1 extension) at the end of april 2013.
--wife is on tier1 dependent from jun 2010 (close to total 3 years before it expires on apri 2013), but soon after first 6 months stay in UK she went out of UK for delivery and came back only after 20 months with my child. In my case i dont even have the cohabitaion proof for those 20 months, as i have shifted to friend place once she left.
--child is on tier1 dependent from may 2012 but as a minor, he is eligible same time as me.

i have been told that, normally UKBA dont show interest in dependents absence as long as they have been in the vias for more than 2 years, and have a valid reason for the long absence but its not confirmed either.

So i assume we have to wait until someone with the similar case go thru the process and update the forum.

sam2012 · Post by **sam2012** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:07 pm

Thank you for joining the loop.

Try to work out atleast 3 different sources of cohabitation proofs,
NHS Letters, some old and new utility bills, bank statements, electoral registration letters etc...

sam2012 · Post by **sam2012** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:10 pm

PEO Dates with Dependents Less than 2 years in UK (with more than 2 years overall since 1st entry)

fazzer1 - Yet to confirm - (please update, your experience will be key for all others in the loop.)
Indran - 23rd Jan - Croydon PEO

All the Best
Sam2012 - 4th Feb - Croydon PEO
call2bala - Due in March 2013
veera4u - Due in April 2013
maddyindon - Due in September 2013

veera4u · Post by **veera4u** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:58 pm

thanks.

I have got only "council bill, nhs letter and tenancy agreement" as cohab proof for the first 6 months and the period after break. I assuem this will be enough.

I am planning to consult an immigration solicitor with regards to the "long break (and also no cohab proof on those period) affecting her ILR eligibility for applying same time as me" and will update after that.

indran · Post by **indran** » Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:14 pm

Hi guys,

Me and my dependants' application for ILR was successful today through PEO application in Croydon. Everything went very well and no questions or were asked about my dependants not having continuous cohabitation for the last 2 years. The case worker was friendly and looks experienced. She took about 3-4 hours to review my case, maybe because it includes her lunch time break. She didnt ask any additional documents and only took a few documents for proof of cohabitation from a stack of documents that i brought with me.

I would like to thank everyone in this forum for guiding me into the right direction to get our ILR approved which saved us a lot of money, effort, time and worries. Without all your advice, I would have applied PBS extension for my dependants.

If you have any questions, please ask me and I will try my best to answer based on my experience.

P/S: Now the ILR is only valid for 10 years for adults and 5 years for child. It used to be unlimited stay, but now it seems that we need to renew when every 5 or 10 years.

Regards,
Indran

veera123 · Post by **veera123** » Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:50 pm

Congrats indran.

Good to hear the news. I have appointment for 5th Feb at Crodon.

My case is similar to your's except the dependent was away for 10 months (Jun 2011 - May 2012) due maternity, but we are staying together in UK since Mar 2008.

Hope ours will be treated on the same lines.

Thanks
Veera

veera4u · Post by **veera4u** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:48 am

Hello indran,

Congratulations !

May I ask, if you had any cohabitation proof for the break period in your dependent? My wife was out of UK for approx 20 months and I have no proof on those period, and do you think this will be OK.

Also when you say ILR has validity now, do you mean the biometric card has validity or the ILR visa itself? I hope we dont have to renew the visa in that case?

Thanks,
Veera

maddyinlon · Post by **maddyinlon** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:56 am

Congratulation Indran!

Glad that you both got Visa.

It gives all of us a hope

sam2012 · Post by **sam2012** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:08 am

Congratulations Indran, Well done!

Hope everyones will be Successfull.

sam2012 · Post by **sam2012** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:12 am

PEO Dates with Dependents Less than 2 years in UK (with more than 2 years overall since 1st entry)

fazzer1 - Yet to confirm - (please update, your experience will be key for all others in the loop.)
Indran - 23rd Jan - Croydon PEO - Success
Sam2012 - 4th Feb - Croydon PEO
veera123 - 5th Feb - Croydon PEO
call2bala - Due in March 2013
veera4u - Due in April 2013
maddyindon - Due in September 2013

indran · Post by **indran** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:51 pm

Hi Veera4u,

Answer to your questions as follows:

1) We didnt provide any proof of cohabitation for the break period although we had some letters coming to our address since she was away to avoid being accused of claiming period which we didnt live together. I think they can check immigration record in their system and also in the passport to see the time your dependent has spent in the UK.

2) I meant biometric card validity. I am not sure if we need to renew ILR visa or not. Most likely not since ILR means indefinate leave. I think, the purpose of renewing biometric card is to update our details, photo etc. That is why my 2 year old son has to renew in 5 years instead of 10.

I hope that I have answered your question.

Regards,
Indran

indran · Post by **indran** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:56 pm

Hi,

I found this template letter is this forum, which would be very useful if you are being questioned about the break in cohabitation or not lbeing dependent for the 2 year period. I didnt submit this letter with the PEO application but brought with me, just in case to provide explanation on the 319E requirement.

Sub: ILR eligibility for my wife, (XXX), under rules before 9th July 2012

Dear Sir/Madam,

My wife, (XXX), was granted leave as Highly Skilled Migrant Programme holder on XXX, with entry date on XXX. Subsequently she extended her leave to remain under Tier 1 (General) which was approved with validity till XXX. She switched as Tier 1 PBS dependent on XXX before the rule change in 9th July 2012. This decision was taken after looking at the rules pre 9th July 201) for ILR eligibility (319(E)) for Tier 1 General PBS migrants and their dependents. The following 2 eligibility criteria were stated under 319 (E) prior to 9th of July 2012:
(c) The applicant must have, or have last been granted, leave as the Partner of the Relevant Points Based System Migrant who is being granted indefinite leave to remain.
(d) The applicant and the Relevant Points Based System Migrant must have been living together in the UK in marriage or civil partnership, or in a relationship similar to marriage or civil partnership, for a period of at least 2 years.
Source: National web archive snapshot taken on 8th April 2012 (Attached)
URL:http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov. ... 1migrants/
As per the rules in place before 9th of July 2012, there was no requirement for my wife to be my dependent for the entire 2-year cohabitation period. The requirement was, she must have been last granted leave as my partner 319E(c) and we must have been living together in the UK in a marriage for a period of at least 2 years 319E(d). In our case, we meet both these criteria along with all others under 319E rule. I appreciate, the rules were changed on 9th of July 2012 and any application after 9th of July was to be treated under the new rules. As my wife was granted leave as my partner on XXX, I believe that the eligibility rules (pre 9th July 2012) mentioned above apply to her as per the transitional arrangements put in place by UKBA (http://ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/siteconte ... am-mig.pdf; Page 8, 69 and among others).
I hope the above information along with documentation will be sufficient to make a favourable decision and allow my wife and son to apply for ILR along with me. If needed, I will be more than happy to discuss or clarify any particular aspect of the application.

Thanking you in anticipation.

Yours sincerely
XXX

indran · Post by **indran** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:13 pm

Hi,

Below is the list of documents that I submitted with my application:

Myself:

1) Past 12 months payslips
2) Employers letter stating my gross salary
3) Absence list showing total absence not exceeding 180days in total for last 5 years
4) Bank statements for last 12 months showing my income (net salary) being paid in
5) Previous Tier 1 approval letter showing the points that i scored
6) PBS calculator print out from UKBA website
7) cover letter for my application with the scores and list of documents provided

current and previous passport
9) P60/P45 for 2 years including a summary letter from HMRC for 2 years without P60
10) Life in the UK pass notification
11) Completed Set(O) form
12) 2 x Photos

Dependents:
1) Passports
2) 2 x Photos each

Proof of cohabitation:
1) tenancy agreements, previous (2.5 years, before the break in cohabitation) and current (last 8 months)
2) Council tax for last 8 months only
3) Joint account bank statements for last 4 years
4) several other letter in both our names
5) Letter from previous landlord stating that we lived together for 2.5 years in the past.

The case worker didnt really bothered about our co-habitation proof. She said she will ask for more if they are not sufficient.

I hope, I didnt miss anything, but will update if i did.

Regards,
Indran

indran · Post by **indran** » Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:15 am

Hi,

Just found out the following from this forum:

It's not the ILR that's valid for 10/5 yrs, it's the BRP which needs to be renewed for an amount of £30-£40. Similar to driving license card. Only to update your picture and any details which might have changed in due course.

Regards,
Indran

sam2012 · Post by **sam2012** » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:30 am

Indran , thank you for the template, very helpful.

maddyinlon · Post by **maddyinlon** » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:33 pm

Indran,

Thank you very much for giving template and list of documents you have submitted.

veera4u · Post by **veera4u** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:18 am

hi indran,

thanks for the answers to my questions and also for the documents list.

sam2012 · Post by **sam2012** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:12 am

PEO Dates with Dependents Less than 2 years in UK (with more than 2 years overall since 1st entry)

fazzer1 - Yet to confirm - (please update, your experience will be key for all others in the loop.)
Indran - 23rd Jan - Croydon PEO - Success
Sam2012 - 4th Feb - Croydon PEO - can't wait

veera123 - 5th Feb - Croydon PEO
call2bala - Due in March 2013
veera4u - Due in April 2013
maddyindon - Due in September 2013

gorgeous_girl · Post by **gorgeous_girl** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:45 pm

Hi All,

My husband just got his ILR last week (same as Indran on 23rd). And now i need to extend my visa since it will be expired shortly. Previously he was holding Tier 1 and i came here with entry clearance of Tier 1 dependent. Now his status has changed to ILR. What form i shall use for extending my visa?

I came here on August 2012. My husband's immigration solicitor had mentioned before that i need to use flr(m). Im not going to use solicitor service for my extension.

Can anyone advise me please.

Thank you

sam2012 · Post by **sam2012** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:55 pm

Hello gorgeous_girl,

I think you need to apply as Tier 1 PBS Dependent extension and you will fall under new rules(5 years to obtain ILR)

I would suggest you to contact UKBA Customer Service on 0870 606 7766

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